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沃什鹰派讲话:QT或于2026年底重启

Hawkish Kevin Warsh

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Hey everyone and thanks for jumping back into the macroverse. Today we're going to talk about the most recent speech given by Kevin Worsh at Jacksonhole. If you guys like the content, make sure you subscribe to the channel, give the video a thumbs up, and check out the sale on Into the Cryptoverse Premium at into the cryptoverse.com. As a reminder, the prices for tickets uh for the first ITC conference taking place November 21st, those prices are going to be going up uh in just a few days on September 1st.

大家好,欢迎回到宏观世界。今天我们要讨论凯文·沃什在杰克逊霍尔的最新演讲。如果你们喜欢这些内容,请务必订阅频道,给视频点赞,并查看Into the Cryptoverse Premium在intothecryptoverse.com上的优惠。提醒一下,首届ITC会议将于11月21日举行,门票价格将在几天后的9月1日上涨。

So, make sure you get your ticket before then if you would like to go. Link is in the description below or the pinned comment. So, I know like me, many of you dreamed of analyzing the the the the chair of the Federal Reserve speech is at Jackson Hole when you were a little kid, right? We all dreamed of it and and here we are. Uh but it it it's not that surprising, right? I mean he he essentially came out and you know he was quite hawkish talked about how inflation is not really giving him the reads that would make him think like they have it under control and I believe he said something to the effect of he would you know he'd be hardressed to to say that monetary policy is restrictive right now like it's not is is what he was saying and and so because of that it it certainly it certainly led to at least in the short term of repricing of, you know, potential interest rates and like what those probabilities are.

所以,如果你想参加,请务必在那之前购票。链接在下方描述或置顶评论中。我知道,和我一样,你们中许多人在小时候就梦想着分析美联储主席在杰克逊霍尔的演讲,对吧?我们都梦想过,现在我们就在这里。嗯,但这并不令人意外,对吧?我的意思是,他基本上出来讲话,而且相当鹰派,谈到通胀并没有给他那种让他觉得他们已控制住局面的信号,我相信他说了类似这样的话:他现在很难说货币政策是限制性的,就像他说的那样,并不是。因此,这至少在短期内导致了潜在利率及其概率的重新定价。

So, we'll talk about that in a little bit, but I I do want to say one other thing before we get into the interest rate stuff, and that is like we keep looking at interest rates and and we talk a lot about interest rates, but and whether they're going to hike, whether they're whether they're going to cut. Um, but there's another tool that the Fed has, and obviously it was a main theme of the last cycle, and I'm sure many of you remember it, probably not so fondly, and that is quantitative tightening or QT.

所以,我们稍后会讨论这个,但在进入利率话题之前,我想说另一件事,那就是我们一直在关注利率,并且我们经常谈论利率,以及它们是否会加息,是否会降息。嗯,但美联储还有另一个工具,显然这是上一个周期的主要主题,我相信你们中许多人还记得,可能不太喜欢,那就是量化紧缩,即QT。

I think a lot of people just kind of assume that QE has to come back, right? Like it it just has to come back in the short term because that's what they do. But given the technological boom of artificial intelligence and AI and if we are to believe that the AI um bull market continues into into the next year, which I I think it will even with a correction in the back half of the midterm year, if you are to believe that, and one of the reasons I believe that is just simply nothing more than I don't believe the market will top before you get all these major IPOs out of the way.

我觉得很多人就是理所当然地认为量化宽松(QE)一定会回归,对吧?好像短期内它必须回来,因为这是他们的惯常做法。但考虑到人工智能(AI)的技术热潮,如果我们相信AI牛市会持续到明年——我认为即使中期年份下半年会有回调,它还是会继续——如果你相信这一点,而我之所以相信的一个原因很简单,就是我不认为市场会在所有这些大型IPO完成之前见顶。

And I mean Anthropics is probably coming up in the next month or two, but Open AI is probably not until 2027. So if you believe in that that that will continue, then the argument is that could they actually start quantitative tightening once again. So I I think you know if you look at Wars' history, he's already he he's known to to want to reduce the balance sheet of the Fed, right? like that is one of the things he has been known for uh wanting to do in the past.

我的意思是,Anthropics可能在未来一两个月内上市,但OpenAI可能要到2027年。所以如果你相信这将继续,那么论点就是他们能否真的再次开始量化紧缩。所以我认为,如果你看看沃勒的历史,他已知倾向于缩减美联储的资产负债表,对吧?那是他过去以想要做而闻名的事情之一。

And he also does not view quantitative tightening necessarily as a substitute for interest rates. Um I I think that you know some people think like oh if if we just do aggressive QT then we don't actually have to raise rates. Now, it is true that you could have a situation where if they were to go through QT, it might eventually lead to outcomes where interest rates don't necessarily have to be as high. But I also think in the short term, Wars basically did what he had to do because if you think back to um the last FOMC meeting, or maybe it wasn't the FOMC, maybe it was some other speech that he gave, but if you listen back to some of his prior speeches, one of the things that he said was that they were going to rely on the long end of the yield curve to to do the work for them rather than necessarily raising rates, right? rather than changing the short end of the yield curve um they would rely on the long end of the yield curve.

而且他也不一定将量化紧缩视为利率的替代品。嗯,我认为有些人会想,哦,如果我们只是激进地实施QT,那我们就不必真的加息了。确实,有可能出现这样的情况:如果他们实施QT,最终可能导致利率不必那么高。但我也认为短期内,沃勒基本上做了他必须做的事,因为如果你回想上次FOMC会议,或者可能不是FOMC,而是他发表的某次演讲,但如果你回顾他之前的一些讲话,他说过的一件事是,他们将依靠收益率曲线的长端来发挥作用,而不是非得加息,对吧?而不是改变收益率曲线的短端,他们会依靠长端。

But something major happened between when he said that and today and that is that the Treasury Secretary Bessant you know they in they definitely accelerated their bond buyback program. So, and and and the point of that the point of what the Treasury Secretary is trying to do is they're trying to bring down the long end of the yield curve at the same time that the chair of the Federal Reserve is saying, "No, we need to rely on the long end of the yield curve."

但在他这么说和今天之间发生了一件大事,那就是财政部长贝森特,你知道他们确实加速了债券回购计划。所以,财政部长试图做的是,他们试图压低收益率曲线的长端,而与此同时美联储主席却说:“不,我们需要依靠收益率曲线的长端。”

So, how can both be true? How can you rely on the long end of the yield curve? like you know one branch or you know one institution but then the other institution comes in and says no we're going to we're going to purposely try to keep long end rates down. Now the problem with the bond buyback program is that it doesn't necessarily solve any of the issues that led to inflation in the first place. It doesn't solve any of them.

那么,这两者如何能同时成立呢?你怎么能依赖收益率曲线的长端呢?就像你知道某个分支或某个机构,但另一个机构却介入说,不,我们要故意压低长端利率。债券回购计划的问题在于,它不一定能解决最初导致通胀的任何问题。它一个都解决不了。

In fact, you could argue it's actually inflationary. And so what you might see is you might see the market tests the Fed's resolve or or the the Treasury Secretaries resolve because when when governments intervene in in markets like that, right? When they start intervening, the market has a habit of like testing their resolve constantly and and sort of forcing their hand to see, all right, you'll do that. Well, how far will you go to defend the long end of the old curve?

事实上,你可以说它实际上是通胀性的。因此,你可能会看到市场测试美联储的决心,或者财政部长的决心,因为当政府像那样干预市场时,对吧?当他们开始干预时,市场习惯性地不断测试他们的决心,并迫使他们摊牌,看看,好吧,你会这么做。那么,你会走多远来捍卫旧曲线(指收益率曲线)的长端呢?

So I I just want to put this, you know, this like nugget in your brain a and that is QT might be announced in the coming months. I I don't think it's going to be announced in in September. Uh like I don't think it's going to start in September. I don't really think it would start in October. the and I could be wrong, but the earliest I could see quantitative tightening being announced would be December of 2026 because that would be one year after when they suspended it.

所以,我只想把这个想法植入你的脑海,那就是量化紧缩(QT)可能会在未来几个月内宣布。我不认为它会在九月份宣布。呃,我不认为它会在九月份开始。我也不认为它会在十月份开始。我可能错了,但我能看到量化紧缩被宣布的最早时间会是2026年12月,因为那将是他们暂停它一年之后。

And I I I think if they're going to raise rates, they might not want to announce both at the same time, right? Like I don't know that they're going to say, "All right, we're going to raise rates and also we're going to start QT." They might try to stagger that. A more realistic time frame on when QT could start back up would be early 2027. That's probably the base case, but I think there is a case to be made that it actually could start as as soon as December or at least an announcement of it as soon as December.

而且我认为,如果他们要提高利率,他们可能不想同时宣布这两件事,对吧?就像我不知道他们会不会说:“好吧,我们要加息,同时也要开始QT。”他们可能会尝试错开这些。QT重新启动的更现实时间框架可能是2027年初。那可能是基准情况,但我认为有理由认为它实际上可能最早在12月就开始,或者至少是在12月就宣布。

Now, listen, if they do that, that doesn't mean like that's the nail in the coffin for a potential Bitcoin bull market, right? What it means is that the next bull market in crypto might be similar to the last one where Bitcoin does well and it lifts some of the altcoins up but the majority of the altcoin market just collectively bleeds back to Bitcoin, right? Like there's a case to be made that we just get another one of those just because and and it could be a scenario where the next four-year cycle for Bitcoin, the first part of the cycle is during QT, but maybe the latter part of the cycle is during QE.

现在,听我说,如果他们那样做,并不意味着比特币牛市就此终结,对吧?它意味着加密货币的下一个牛市可能类似于上一个,比特币表现良好并带动一些山寨币上涨,但大多数山寨币市场只是集体回流至比特币,对吧?有理由认为我们可能再次经历类似情况,而且可能出现这样一种情景:比特币的下一个四年周期,前半段处于量化紧缩期,但也许后半段处于量化宽松期。

That's actually what happened in 2019, right? Like the first part of the cycle was during quantitative tighting and you know they went a little too far. Maybe not, but I mean the pandemic happened and then they had to pivot over to QE. So I I just want you to think about that kind of like in the back of your mind that something similar could happen again. It's possible that they can announce quantitative tightening and and if they do um you know it it could have a similar effect on markets that it had last cycle just kind of running the same playbook once again.

这实际上就是2019年发生的情况,对吧?周期前半段处于量化紧缩期,你知道,他们可能做得有点过火。也许不是,但我的意思是疫情发生了,然后他们不得不转向量化宽松。所以我只是希望你在心里记住,类似情况可能再次发生。他们有可能宣布量化紧缩,如果那样做的话,你知道,它可能对市场产生与上个周期类似的影响,只是再次沿用同样的剧本。

And a lot of people learned their lesson last cycle as to what that means for higher risk assets. And so I I wouldn't be surprised if if that is the outcome where you get a rate hike uh at some point they actually start quantitative tightening back up not because we're you know in a bare market right but because the AI trade is still going on and and this is their way to try to tame inflation because the one thing Kevin Wars does not want to do is allow inflation to run rampant.

上个周期,很多人已经吸取了教训,知道这对高风险资产意味着什么。所以如果出现这样的结果,我不会感到惊讶:在某个时点加息,他们实际上重新开始量化紧缩,不是因为我们现在处于熊市,而是因为AI交易仍在进行,这是他们试图遏制通胀的方式,因为凯文·沃斯最不想做的就是让通胀失控。

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