法国骚乱升级，政府拟实施宵禁并增派警力
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We want to get back over to Paris, France. A lot of unrest over there. Uh, a lot of civil unrest which has really been escalating over the last several weeks here. We can do that uh with uh our good friend Oliver Crook, chief Europe correspondent for Bloomberg News. He joins us live from Paris. Oliver, what are we seeing over the last week? They seem to really escalate some of these riots, some of these looting, and some of this uh some of these issues and a lot of pretty heavy-handed crackdown by the police as well.
我们想回到法国巴黎。那里局势动荡不安。嗯，近几周以来，那里的民间骚乱不断升级。我们可以请彭博新闻社欧洲首席记者奥利弗·克鲁克（Oliver Crook）来为我们现场报道。奥利弗，过去一周我们看到的情况如何？这些骚乱似乎进一步升级了，包括一些抢劫行为，以及警方采取的相当严厉的清场措施。
What's the latest?
最新情况如何？
Yeah, absolutely. I mean, the Paris still bears the scars. You can see it everywhere. Um from what we saw over the weekend, really escalating on Saturday, but not just in Paris. This is a set of riots that really uh moved from just from outside of the capital. You know, the Xile Jon movement back in 2018 was really concentrated here in Paris in terms of the volume of damage, but you saw those really shocking images of that town hall in Limoj that burned down.
是的，确实如此。巴黎依然伤痕累累，随处可见。从我们周末看到的情况来看，周六的局势急剧升级，而且不仅仅发生在巴黎。这是一系列骚乱，其范围已从首都外围蔓延开来。要知道，2018年的“黄背心”运动在破坏程度方面主要集中在巴黎，但你看到了利摩日市政厅被烧毁的那些令人震惊的画面。
There were massive protests in Marseilles. And today is really about cleaning up the city of Paris, but also getting some of these emergency measures out by the government in order to prevent this from happening again. So, we've heard from the prime minister of France, Sebastian Luku, after a crisis cabinet meeting. He says that there actually may be curfews that will be imposed in parts of France in order to prevent that situation.
马赛爆发了大规模抗议活动。而今天的主要任务是清理巴黎市区，同时政府正在出台一些紧急措施，以防止此类事件再次发生。因此，我们听到了法国总理塞巴斯蒂安·勒科尔努（Sebastian Luku）在危机内阁会议后的发言。他表示，为了防止类似情况重演，法国部分地区可能会实施宵禁。
We've heard also from the interior minister who says that even more police will be deployed next weekend in anticipation of another day of protest potentially next Saturday. We should say this is the very same interior minister who submitted his resignation to Emanuel M over the weekend and Emanuel M of course rejected it. I think for this government, they're just trying to find ways to kind of circuit break this situation in order to prevent it from becoming what we had in back 2018 and 2019 with that yellow vest movement where every weekend you'd have protests Saturday after Saturday after Saturday.
我们还听取了内政部长的表态，他表示预计下周六可能再次出现抗议活动，因此将在下个周末部署更多警力。需要指出的是，这位内政部长正是上周末向埃马纽埃尔·马克龙（Emanuel M）提交辞呈的人，而马克龙当然拒绝了这一辞呈。我认为，对于本届政府而言，他们正试图寻找一种方式来打破这种僵局，防止事态演变成2018年和2019年“黄背心”运动时期的局面，即每个周六都接连不断地举行抗议活动。
But some of these protests would basically just degenerate into these riots. The real issue is like in 2018 this began as a movement that was based in some political motive that was to get better funding for schools for a commentary on the cost of living and then comes completely out of hand and really goes into the hands of people who are just interested in vandalizing and breaking and stealing and you see a lot of evidence of that across Paris Paris today.
但其中一些抗议活动基本上会退化为骚乱。真正的问题在于，就像2018年那样，这场运动起初是基于某种政治动机，旨在为学校争取更多资金，并评论生活成本问题，随后完全失控，落入那些只对破坏、打砸和盗窃感兴趣的人手中。在今天的巴黎各地，你可以看到大量这方面的证据。
Hey Oliver, talk to us specifically about those partial curfews and what specifically could be put in place. So what's interesting is that Emanuel Mak after speaking um Saturday uh I should say Sunday evening at 8:00 p.m. he only spoke for about 8 minutes. He didn't give a whole lot of information in terms of what the government was intending to do. But he did say he will give more power to the local government. So that is part of this calculus here.
奥利弗，请具体谈谈那些部分宵禁措施，以及具体可以实施哪些内容。有趣的是，埃马纽埃尔·马克龙在周六——我应该说是周日晚8点——发表讲话时，只讲了大约8分钟。他在政府打算做什么方面没有提供太多信息。但他确实表示将赋予地方政府更多权力。因此，这也是这里考量的一部分。
They're giving more power to the government to potentially ban protests and to potentially bring um curfews in. What's very interesting is that after doing that last night, he got on the plane and Emanuel M is doing now a tour of the Gulf of a number of the Middle Eastern nations. A sort of interesting time for the president to leave uh France, leaving a lot of political space for commentary from all of those people that are running for a presidential election over the next 6 months, whether it's Marin Le Pen, Jean M, who all have very different diagnosis of why this is happening here in France and what the solution should be.
他们正在赋予政府更多权力，以潜在地禁止抗议活动并引入宵禁。非常有趣的是，在昨晚采取这些行动后，他登上了飞机，埃马纽埃尔·马克龙现在正在对中东多个国家的海湾地区进行访问。对于总统来说，在这个时间点离开法国可谓时机微妙，这为接下来6个月内竞选总统的各方人士留下了大量的政治评论空间，无论是玛丽娜·勒庞还是让·梅朗雄，他们对法国发生这一切的原因以及解决方案都有着截然不同的诊断。
As you might not be surprised, [music] the right-wing Marine Lupin says she's going to be the candidate of law and order and bring sort of sovereignty and authority back to France, whereas Jean Luke Minos on the left really takes much more sympathy with the students and saying that actually it's the heavy hand of the police that is really to to blame for a lot of the issues we've had over the weekend.
正如你可能不会感到惊讶一样，[音乐] 右翼的玛丽娜·勒庞表示她将成为法律和秩序的候选人，并将主权和权威带回法国；而左翼的让-吕克·梅朗雄则对学生们表现出更多的同情，他认为实际上真正该为周末发生的许多问题负责的是警察的强硬手段。
All right, very good. Appreciate that reporting. Oliver Crook, chief your correspondent for Bloomberg News. is uh in Paris.
好的，非常好。感谢你的报道。彭博新闻社驻巴黎首席记者奥利弗·克鲁克（Oliver Crook）发回报道。
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