特朗普称油价上涨不道歉，称其为阻止伊朗核武的必要代价
Trump on Higher Gas Prices: 'I'll Never Apologize' | Balance of Power 08/14/2026
THIS IS "BALANCE OF POWER," LIVE FROM WASHINGTON, D.C. JOE: TONIGHT, NOT NEARLY LONG ENOUGH -- PRESIDENT TRUMP WAVING OFF CONCERNS ABOUT THE CREW ABOARD THE USS ABRAHAM LINCOLN DURING HIS RECORD DEPLOYMENT SUPPORTING OPERATIONS AGAINST IRAN. REACTION TO HIS COMMENTS FROM BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE. PLUS, CUBA IN THE CROSSHAIRS. ECHOING ITS RECENT STRATEGY SHIFT ON IRAN, THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION RAMPING UP ECONOMIC PRESSURE ON CUBA RATHER THAN PURSUING MILITARY ACTION ACCORDING TO NEW REPORTING FROM BLOOMBERG'S ERIC MARTIN.
这里是“权力平衡”，从华盛顿特区现场直播。乔：今晚，时间远远不够——特朗普总统对“亚伯拉罕·林肯”号航母上船员在支持对伊朗行动期间创纪录部署的担忧不予理会。两党对他的言论的反应。此外，古巴成为目标。根据彭博社埃里克·马丁的最新报道，特朗普政府呼应最近对伊朗的战略转变，加大对古巴的经济压力，而非寻求军事行动。
AND SEVERAL HOUSE DEMOCRATS CALLING ON SOME OF THE BIGGEST NAMES IN ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE TO TESTIFY BEFORE CONGRESS. A TEXAS CONGRESSMAN IS LEADING THE PUSH AND OUR CONVERSATION WITH HIM IS STRAIGHT AHEAD. FROM BLOOMBERG WORLD HEADQUARTERS, WELCOME TO "BALANCE OF POWER." KAILEY: WE BEGIN WITH FRESH COMMENTS FROM THE PRESIDENT ON THE CONFLICT WITH IRAN AND NAMELY THE CONDITIONS FOR SAILORS ABOARD THE USS ABRAHAM LINCOLN.
还有几位众议院民主党人呼吁一些人工智能领域的大人物在国会作证。一位德克萨斯州国会议员正在带头推动，我们与他的对话即将开始。从彭博社世界总部，欢迎收看“权力平衡”。凯莉：我们首先从总统关于与伊朗冲突的最新言论开始，即“亚伯拉罕·林肯”号航母上水手的状况。
THE PRESIDENT SAYING THIS WHEN QUESTIONED BY A REPORTER EARLIER TODAY.
总统今天早些时候在回答记者提问时说了这番话。
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NO, NOT NEARLY LONG ENOUGH. THANK YOU. KAILEY: THE PRESIDENT WENT ON TO SPEAK BEFORE LAW ENFORCEMENT ON LONG ISLAND, DELIVERING MARKS ON CRIME AND AS HE WAS DOING SO WE GOT INFORMATION FROM THE ACTING SECRETARY OF THE NAVY SAYING THE SAFETY OF OUR SAILORS AND MARINES ALWAYS COMES FIRST, THE LINCOLN WAS EXTENDED BECAUSE THE MISSION DEMANDED IT. APPOINTMENTS ARE HARD AND COMBAT OPERATIONS MAKE THEM HARDER. UNFORTUNATELY THE MEDIA ARE TRYING TO PAINT OUR WORRIERS -- WARRIORS AS VICTIMS.
不，时间远远不够。谢谢。凯莉：总统随后在长岛对执法部门发表讲话，就犯罪问题发表看法，与此同时，我们从代理海军部长那里得到消息，称我们的水手和海军陆战队员的安全始终是第一位的，林肯号之所以延长部署是因为任务需要。任命是艰难的，作战行动使它们更加艰难。不幸的是，媒体试图把我们的勇士描绘成受害者。
WE ARE MOVED BY NANCY COOK -- JOINED BY NANCY COOK. THE COMMENT NOT LONG ENOUGH IS ONE I SUSPECT WE WILL HEAR ECHOED. NANCY: HE MADE A LOT OF COMMENTS OFF THE CUFF THAT I THINK WE WILL HEAR IN ADS FOR THE MIDTERMS. THAT THE U.S. WOULD CONTROL THE STRAIT OF HORMUZ. I THINK HE WAS IN FINE FORM THIS AFTERNOON GIVING A STRAIGHT -- A SPEECH ON LONG ISLAND, HE WAS SUPPOSED TO TALK ABOUT CRIME AND SAFETY AND MAKE A CONTRAST WITH THE DEMOCRATS BUT HE'S FEELING A LITTLE UNDER SIEGE AND ON THE DEFENSIVE.
我们被南希·库克感动——南希·库克加入我们。“时间不够长”这句话我怀疑我们会听到回响。南希：他即兴发表了很多评论，我想我们会在中期选举的广告中听到这些。美国将控制霍尔木兹海峡。我认为他今天下午状态很好，在长岛发表了一篇直截了当的演讲，他本应谈论犯罪和安全，并与民主党形成对比，但他感到有点受到围攻，处于守势。
JOE: THIS IS NORMALLY AN ENVIRONMENT IN WHICH HE EXCELS. DID WE JUST GET A PREVIEW OF WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN WHEN THE GENERAL ELECTION REALLY GETS UNDERWAY IN THE MIDTERMS? NANCY: I THINK HE HAS SO MUCH GOING ON RIGHT NOW WITH THE WAR IN IRAN, DEALING WITH GAS PRICES, THE STATE OF THE ECONOMY , THE FOREIGN POLICY QUESTIONS, CUBA. THE WHITE HOUSE IS UNDER SIEGE RIGHT NOW ON MULTIPLE FRONTS, SOME OF THEIR OWN MAKING LIKE THE WAR IN IRAN.
乔：这通常是他擅长的环境。我们是否刚刚预览了中期选举真正开始时将会发生的情况？南希：我认为他现在有很多事情要处理，比如伊朗战争、应对油价、经济状况、外交政策问题、古巴。白宫现在正面临多方面的围攻，其中一些是他们自己造成的，比如伊朗战争。
I THINK ANYTIME TRUMP FEELS CORNERED, HE TENDS TO LASH OUT. KAILEY: WHEN WE CONSIDER THE PRESIDENT LASHING OUT IN MESSAGING, WE SAW HIS WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY, WHO HELPS HIM DISPERSE THAT MESSAGING AT THE PODIUM, IN THE BRIEFING ROOM WITH HIM ON THE TRIP TO NEW YORK TODAY. SHE WON'T BE WITH HIM ON MANY TRIPS IN THE FUTURE -- ARE YOU HEARING ANYTHING FROM THE WHITE HOUSE ABOUT THE COMMUNICATION SHOCK IN THE FUTURE?
我认为每当特朗普感到被逼入绝境时，他往往会猛烈抨击。凯莉：当我们考虑到总统在信息传递上猛烈抨击时，我们看到他的白宫新闻秘书，她帮助他在讲台上传递这些信息，今天在前往纽约的行程中与他一起在简报室。她将来不会和他一起参加很多行程——你听到白宫关于未来沟通变动的任何消息吗？
NANCY: KAROLINE LEAVITT, WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY, WHO HAS BEEN WITHOUT TRUMP THROUGHOUT HIS 2024 CAMPAIGN INTO LEAVING AFTER LABOR DAY, I'VE HEARD THAT TRUMP WANTS SOMEONE EVEN MORE COMBATIVE. SHE IS PRETTY COMBATIVE. BUT ALSO SOMEONE WHO IS FORWARD FACING. SOMEONE WHO CAN DO A LOT OF TV FOR THE ADMINISTRATION. SOME NAMES I'VE HEARD IT'S GOT JENNINGS, A CNN COMMENTATOR. HE IS NEVER SERVED IN THAT TYPE OF ROLE. AND MONICA CROWLEY, SHE WAS SECRETARY MNUCHIN'S TOP COMMUNICATIONS AIDE IN THE FIRST TERM.
南希：白宫新闻秘书卡罗琳·莱维特，她在特朗普2024年竞选期间一直陪伴他，将在劳动节后离职。我听说特朗普想要一个更具攻击性的人。她已经相当好斗了。但也需要一个面向未来的人，一个能为政府做很多电视节目的人。我听到的一些名字包括詹宁斯，一位CNN评论员。他从未担任过那种角色。还有莫妮卡·克劳利，她是第一任期内努钦部长的首席通讯助理。
I DON'T THINK THAT'S SETTLED INTERNALLY. KAROLINE LEAVITT LEANING -- LEAVING IS A HUGE LOSS. SHE'S A TRUSTED ADVISOR. JOE: NANCY, THANK YOU SO MUCH. JOINING US FOR MORE ON ALL OF THIS INCLUDING THE POLITICAL FALLOUT IN WISCONSIN, GWEN MOORE FROM WISCONSIN. WELCOME BACK, IT'S GREAT TO HAVE YOU ALWAYS. PRESIDENT TRUMP SPOKE TODAY FOR OVER AN HOUR TO A GROUP OF FIRST RESPONDERS AND SUPPORTERS ON LONG ISLAND, CLAIMING AFFORDABILITY IS A HOAX AND COMMUNISTS HAVE TAKEN OVER THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY.
我认为这在内部还没有定论。卡罗琳·莱维特即将离职是一个巨大的损失。她是一位值得信赖的顾问。乔：南希，非常感谢你。接下来我们邀请威斯康星州的格温·摩尔，来进一步讨论这一切，包括威斯康星州的政治影响。欢迎回来，很高兴你总是来。特朗普总统今天在长岛向一群急救人员和支持者发表了超过一个小时的讲话，声称可负担性是一个骗局，共产主义者已经接管了民主党。
DOES THAT MAKE YOU A COMMUNIST? REP. MOORE: [LAUGHTER] REPUBLICANS ARE VERY DISAPPOINTED THAT CROWLEY WON THAT ELECTION BECAUSE THEY'D PLANNED THEIR ENTIRE CAMPAIGN AROUND CHARACTERIZING AS A SOCIALIST AND CONJURING FEAR AMONG PEOPLE WHO HAVE COME TO UNDERSTAND THE EXTREMES IN THOSE REGIMES AS BEING HARMFUL FOR THEM. WITH REGARD TO HIS COMMENT THAT AFFORDABILITY IS A HOAX, NOT TO PEOPLE WHO HAVE LIVED EXPERIENCE. EVERYTHING IS HIGHER, NOT JUST GAS PRICES AND GROCERIES FOR FOOD BECAUSE DIESEL FUEL IS SKYHIGH.
那会让你成为共产主义者吗？摩尔议员：[笑声] 共和党人对克劳利赢得那次选举感到非常失望，因为他们整个竞选活动都围绕着将她描绘成社会主义者，并在那些已经意识到这些政权的极端对他们有害的人中制造恐惧。关于他说的可负担性是一个骗局，对于有亲身经历的人来说并非如此。一切都更贵了，不仅仅是油价和食品杂货，因为柴油价格飞涨。
IT'S NOT JUST FILLING UP THE GAS TANK WHICH WAS ONCE $30 A WEEK AND NOW AT $60 A WEEK. IT'S NOT JUST UTILITY BILLS ARE HIGHER. THEY'VE LOST SNAP BENEFITS, SO-CALLED FOOD STAMPS, AND PEOPLE HAVE LOST HEALTH CARE BENEFITS. THE PRESIDENT LOVES TO TALK ABOUT HIS ONE BIG UGLY BILL AND HOW IT PROVIDED TAX BREAKS FOR PEOPLE. WHEN YOU CONSIDER THAT COSTS HAVE GONE UP BY $2200 PER YEAR JUST FOR UTILITIES AND EVEN MORE FOR GROCERIES AND HEALTH CARE OR THE LOSS OF IT, THE MATH IS NOT MATHING.
这不仅仅是加满油箱的问题，以前每周30美元，现在每周60美元。也不仅仅是水电费更高了。他们失去了SNAP福利，即所谓的食品券，人们还失去了医疗保健福利。总统喜欢谈论他的那个“一大丑陋法案”以及它如何为人们提供税收减免。但当你考虑到成本每年上涨2200美元，仅水电费就涨了这么多，食品杂货和医疗保健或失去这些福利的成本更高时，这笔账根本算不过来。
TO BE PEOPLE OVER THE HEAD AND TELL THEM THEY ARE DOING BETTER IS NOT WORKING ANYMORE. KAILEY: IT RAISES THE QUESTION OF IF THERE ARE WAYS, ACHIEVABLE WAYS TO PUT MORE MONEY IN PEOPLE'S POCKETS. APPARENTLY THE PRESIDENT IS OPENLY DISCUSSING CHANGES TO HOW CAPITAL GAINS ARE TAXED TO LOWER THE RATES ON CAPITAL GAINS EARNERS. YOU ARE ON THE WAYS AND MEANS COMMITTEE, IS THIS AN IDEA YOU CAN GET BEHIND? REP. MOORE: ALL HIS IDEAS TALK ABOUT MAKING RICH PEOPLE EVEN RICHER.
对人们当头一棒并告诉他们他们过得更好，这已经不管用了。凯莉：这引发了一个问题，是否有办法，切实可行的办法，让人们的口袋里有更多的钱。显然，总统正在公开讨论改变资本利得的征税方式，以降低资本利得者的税率。你是筹款委员会的成员，这个想法你能支持吗？摩尔众议员：他所有的想法都是在谈让富人更富。
I WAS LISTENING TODAY WITH RAGE AT A COMMERCIAL BRIAN STYLE PUT OUT AND ONE OF THE FEATURES OF THE ONE BIG UGLY BILL IS THEY PROVIDED A TAX BREAK FOR SENIORS UP TO $6,000. THE MESSAGE WAS WE HAVE FIXED SOCIAL SECURITY AND WE ARE TAKING CARE OF SENIORS -- NOT SO MUCH. THAT TAX CREDIT WILL MOSTLY BENEFIT SENIORS WHO ARE WEALTHY OR WORKING, SENIORS WHO HAVE AT LEAST $6,000 OF TAX LIABILITY. IF YOU OWE NO TAXES AND YOU ARE BARELY MAKING IT ON SOCIAL SECURITY, YOU ARE NOT GOING TO GET A DIME.
我今天愤怒地听了一个布莱恩风格的广告，其中“一大丑陋法案”的一个特点是他们为老年人提供了高达6000美元的税收减免。信息是“我们已经解决了社会保障问题，我们正在照顾老年人”——事实并非如此。这项税收抵免主要惠及富有或仍在工作的老年人，那些至少有6000美元纳税义务的老年人。如果你不欠税，仅靠社会保障勉强度日，你一分钱也拿不到。
WE HAVE A K-SHAPED ECONOMY -- PEOPLE ARE DOING VERY GREAT AT THE UPPER END OF THE CAKE, AND THEN THERE ARE PEOPLE AT THE BOTTOM. PEOPLE WHO WERE MIDDLE-CLASS ARE FINDING THEMSELVES ON THE BOTTOM RUNG OF THE K-SHAPED ECONOMY. THE PRESIDENT WHO HAS COMMAND OF EVERY NEWS CYCLE CONTINUES TO SAY THE SAME THING. HE DOESN'T CARE ABOUT PEOPLE'S ECONOMIC AGONY. JUST WAIT, IT WILL TURN AROUND. BUT THE THINGS HE'S DOING LIKE IMPOSING TARIFFS THAT HAVE COST FAMILY MONEY -- FAMILIES MONEYS, CUTTING MEDICAID AND MEDICARE, CUTTING SNAP AND MAKING WORK REQUIREMENTS FOR SOMEBODY WHO IS 63, 64 YEARS OLD WHO ALREADY MAYBE EXPERIENCING MEDICAL PROBLEMS AND DISABILITIES.
我们有一个K型经济——处于蛋糕顶端的人过得非常好，而底层的人则不然。曾经是中产阶级的人现在发现自己处于K型经济的底层。掌控着每一个新闻周期的总统继续说着同样的话。他不在乎人们的经济痛苦。只要等待，情况会好转的。但他所做的，比如征收关税，让家庭花费了金钱——家庭的钱，削减医疗补助和医疗保险，削减SNAP，并对可能已经患有医疗问题和残疾的63、64岁的人提出工作要求。
NONE OF THIS IS MAKING ANY SENSE TO PEOPLE INTELLECTUALLY OR PRACTICALLY. BY THE WAY, WE ARE ON BLOOMBERG SO YOU CAN LET YOUR VIEWERS KNOW THAT THE ECONOMY LOOKED VERY MUCH LIKE THIS RIGHT BEFORE WE HAVE THE GREAT DEPRESSION. GREAT STOCK MARKET BUT PEOPLE BEING POOR. WE ARE ALSO SEEING SOFTER EMPLOYMENT NUMBERS. AND FEMALES, OFTEN THE HEADS OF HOUSEHOLDS, BLACK WOMEN, ARE GETTING THE BRUNT OF JOB LOSSES. NOT SO FAST, MR.
这一切在理智上或实际上都让人无法理解。顺便说一句，我们正在彭博社，你可以让你的观众知道，就在大萧条之前，经济状况与现在非常相似。股市繁荣，但人民贫困。我们还看到就业数据疲软。而女性，通常是户主，黑人女性，正承受着失业的主要冲击。别急，先生。
PRESIDENT, WITH HOW WELL EVERYONE IS DOING. JOE: GOOD LORD IF GWEN MOORE PREDICTED ANOTHER GREAT DEPRESSION. YOU MENTIONED GASOLINE, EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS THAT LANGUAGE, IT IS $3.91 IN YOUR STATE, YOU ARE DOING A LITTLE BETTER THAN THE NATIONAL AVERAGE. BUT STILL WORSE THAN BEFORE THE WAR IN IRAN STARTED. PRESIDENT TRUMP JUSTIFY THE PRICES TODAY.
总统先生，关于大家过得如何，别急着下结论。乔：天哪，如果格温·摩尔又预测一场大萧条。你提到了汽油，大家都懂那个说法，你所在的州是3.91美元，比全国平均水平稍好一点。但仍然比伊朗战争开始前更糟。特朗普总统今天为这些价格辩护。
FOR YOU TO PAY A TINY MORE FOR GASOLINE, JUST REMEMBER, YOU ARE DOING IT SO A VERY EVIL COUNTRY -- REALLY, THE NUMBER ONE STATE SPONSOR OF TERROR IN THE WORLD -- WE DON'T WANT THEM TO HAVE A NUCLEAR WEAPON SO REMEMBER THAT WHEN YOU HAVE TO PAY A LITTLE MORE, FOUR DOLLARS, IT'S OK. I WILL NEVER APOLOGIZE, I DID THE RIGHT THING. JOE: WILL VOTERS UNDERSTAND THAT LOGIC WHEN THEY GO TO VOTE IN NOVEMBER? REP. MOORE: JUST A TINY LITTLE BIT MORE IS REALLY BUSTING PEOPLE'S BUDGETS.
为了让你多付一点汽油钱，只要记住，你这样做是为了一个非常邪恶的国家——真的，世界上头号支持恐怖主义的国家——我们不希望他们拥有核武器，所以当你不得不付多一点，四美元，没关系。我永远不会道歉，我做了正确的事。乔：选民们会在十一月投票时理解这种逻辑吗？摩尔众议员：只是多一点点，真的让人们的预算捉襟见肘。
MAYBE PEOPLE WOULD BUY INTO THAT IF IN FACT THERE WERE A WAR PLAN AND A CLEAR
如果实际上有一个战争计划和明确的
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