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科威特石油公司CEO:霍尔木兹海峡恢复通行后产量将立即回升至战前水平

KPC CEO Al-Sabah Says Oil Output Well Over 2M Barrels Daily

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地缘冲突对能源供应链的实际制约机制清晰,明确了原油与成品油出口的差异化瓶颈及产能恢复条件,对评估油价弹性与物流风险有直接参考价值。

We are talking about all of this, uh, potential discussions of maybe some sort of de-escalation of conflict that is now well into its eighth month. The Strait of Hormuz shut down for most of that time, and now we're starting to see Iran start to hit a lot more targets further south of that in the Gulf of Oman. And that has affected your shipments in and out of Kuwait. What measures have you taken to try to find alternative routes?

我们正就所有这些议题进行讨论,呃,关于可能进行的某种冲突降级对话,目前冲突已持续近八个月。在此期间,霍尔木兹海峡大部分时间处于关闭状态,现在我们看到伊朗开始在阿曼湾更南部的地区打击更多目标。这影响了你们进出科威特的货运。你们采取了哪些措施来寻找替代路线?

I mean, we have started since the beginning of this conflict. We have made clear to our customers around the world that we will do everything possible to ensure that shipments continue to our customers when the Strait did not have any passage going through. We used our trading arm and we we used, uh, our disposal, everything at our disposal to make sure that alternative shipments made it to our customers. Now that shipping is going through.

我的意思是,自这场冲突开始以来,我们就已向全球客户明确表态,在海峡无法通行时,我们将尽一切努力确保货物继续运达我们的客户。我们动用了贸易部门以及我们能利用的一切手段,以确保替代运输方案能将货物送达客户手中。现在航运已经恢复通行。

Uh, we are committed to raising our production, uh, as high as as we can to, uh, accommodate the requirements of our customers. So we are working through the strait and looking into the future will look into alternatives such as pipelines. Are the ship to ship transfers that you've been doing? Is that still? Actually that is something that is continuing, that is working. We've been able to move our production from, uh, almost nothing really, uh, during the height of the, of the crisis, uh, to well over 2 million barrels a day.

呃,我们致力于将产量提升至尽可能高的水平,以满足客户的需求。因此,我们正在通过海峡进行运营,并着眼于未来探索管道等替代方案。你们一直在进行的船对船过驳作业是否仍在继续?实际上,这项作业仍在持续且运行良好。我们成功地将产量从危机高峰期几乎为零的水平,提升至每天超过200万桶。

And our, uh, fields and our facilities are resilient. They can handle that. The, uh, what is missing right now is additional security for ships to transit through the strait so that we can raise our production to what it was before this crisis began at 2.7 million barrels a day. When you say that you're meeting your obligations, that 100% of what your customers are asking for, they're getting, or you still having to sort of make concessions on the crude side, we are on the crude oil side.

我们的油田和设施具有韧性,能够承受这种压力。目前缺失的是为船舶通过海峡提供的额外安全保障,以便我们将产量提升至危机爆发前的每日270万桶水平。当你提到你正在履行义务,客户要求的100%原油都能得到满足,还是说你在原油方面仍需做出某种让步?我们在原油方面是……

We are exporting, uh, basically what we had been doing before the war began. We're meeting the requirements of our customers on crude oil. It's on, uh, product where shipping is more constrained for products. And that's where we had to, uh, uh, restrain, uh, some of our, uh, refining capacity on that. Uh, and you're seeing that result in international diesel and, uh, jet fuel prices. One of the biggest, uh, refineries in the world that produces jet and diesel is actually in Kuwait.

我们基本上恢复了战前的出口水平。我们在原油方面满足了客户的需求。但在产品油方面,由于运输限制更为严格,我们不得不削减部分炼油产能。这也反映在国际柴油和航空煤油价格上。世界上生产航空煤油和柴油的最大炼油厂之一实际上位于科威特。

We need more, uh, uh, product carriers to come into the into the Gulf, uh, to carry that product out. So is the main constraint on the refined products right now, getting the tankers that you need or getting a safe escort of those tankers in and out. It's both because, uh, once you have safe escort, uh, more and more tankers from the international community will come. What we're doing right now is using our strategic tanker fleet to shuttle, uh, crude and product out through the strait, do ship to ship, transfer outside and move it to our customers outside.

我们需要更多的产品运输船进入海湾,以便将产品运出。那么目前制约精炼产品的主要因素是获取所需的油轮,还是为进出港的油轮提供安全护航?两者皆是。因为一旦有了安全护航,国际社会越来越多的油轮将会前来。我们目前正在做的是利用我们的战略油轮舰队,通过海峡穿梭运输原油和产品,在外部进行船对船转运,然后将其运送给我们位于海外的客户。

Uh, you've taken some damage to some of your tankers because we have war. Have you been able to repair and replace those in an efficient manner? We have, uh, we're doing everything we can, uh, to move, uh, the shipments out that that is replace that is, uh, repairing. Uh, the tankers that have been hit. Uh, some of those are back in service. Others are in the process, uh, going through drydock. Have you asked the U.S. military for more help on the naval side?

由于战争,你们的某些油轮遭受了损坏。你们是否已经能够以高效的方式修复和替换这些受损船只?是的,我们正在尽一切努力,尽快将货物运出,并修复那些被击中的油轮。其中一些已经恢复运营,另一些则正在进坞维修中。你们是否向美军寻求过更多海军方面的援助?

Uh, the U.S. military has been, uh, fantastic in supporting us all the way through. Uh, it was very clear to us from the beginning that there is nothing that is 100% effective, that we will continue. We will absorb some hits, but it is a risk that we are taking. But we're also asking the international community, asking our customers, uh, to bear a greater portion of that responsibility. Uh, and move ships to work with us on the, uh, on the risks that we're taking.

美军在整个过程中一直给予我们非常出色的支持。从一开始我们就很清楚,没有任何措施能达到百分之百的有效,我们将继续前行。我们会承受一些损失,但这是我们正在承担的风险。同时,我们也呼吁国际社会、呼吁我们的客户共同承担更大的责任,并与我们携手应对我们所面临的风险。

Why haven't we seen that yet? You're starting to see that, um. In fact, uh, our customers are now, um, coming into the Gulf, uh, supporting us with, uh, with the shipping and, uh, starting to collect product from Kuwait. Are these primarily customers in Europe and Asia? Uh, these customers are in Asia. Uh, we're asking our European customers to do the same, and they're working with their with their governments to ensure that they can come up through the Gulf.

为什么我们之前还没有看到这种情况?你现在已经开始看到了。事实上,我们的客户现在正进入海湾,在航运方面给予我们支持,并开始从科威特接收产品。这些主要是欧洲和亚洲的客户吗?不,这些客户位于亚洲。我们也在要求我们的欧洲客户采取同样的行动,他们正与政府合作,确保能够通过海湾航线抵达。

I know that you're not actually involved in any sort of peace negotiations, but there's been a lot of rumors about a potential de-escalation. Uh, are you aware of any progress on that front? I'm not aware of that. Uh, what we do is we, uh, ensure that we can get as much of our shipments out, uh, to to our customers. And, uh, we let the politicians sort out the rest. If there was a deal any time soon, how quickly could you ramp up production and, more importantly, delivery of that production back up to that 2.6, uh, barrels that we saw prior to the war?

我知道您实际上并未参与任何形式的和平谈判,但关于潜在局势降温的传闻很多。嗯,您是否了解这方面的任何进展?我不了解这些情况。嗯,我们做的是确保能够将尽可能多的货物运出,交付给我们的客户。至于其他事情,就让政客们去解决吧。如果很快达成协议,你们能够多快恢复生产,更重要的是,将产量恢复到战前我们所看到的每天260万桶的水平?

Immediate. I mean, our facilities are available, uh, ready to work. Our, uh, fields are more resilient than ever. This is a testament to not only Kuwait's, uh, ability, but CPC's ability, uh, to produce we. What? The only thing that's missing, honestly, is an exit, uh, route, uh, for for product. Um, you've talked about, uh, refined products already being a critical levels. There has been, uh, some relief that Kuwait has actually taken credit for with regard to getting some of that product back to market.

立即就能做到。我的意思是,我们的设施可用,随时准备投入工作。我们的油田比以往任何时候都更具韧性。这不仅证明了科威特的能力,也证明了CPC(里海管道财团)的生产能力。什么?说实话,唯一缺失的就是产品的出口路线。嗯,您已经提到过,成品油已经处于关键水平。科威特在将部分产品重新推向市场方面取得了一些成效,对此人们感到松了一口气。

How involved were you in, uh, getting that diesel and the other refined products? So we're absolutely we're prioritizing getting these products out into the market, especially because, uh, diesel and jet fuel is facing a severe shortage. And as I said, a lot of that shortage is due to the fact that you have about 6 million barrels of refining capacity inside the Gulf. Uh, much of that is being restrained because of the inability to move it safely out.

您在获取柴油和其他成品油方面参与了多少?我们绝对优先将这些产品推向市场,尤其是因为柴油和航空燃油正面临严重短缺。正如我所说的,这种短缺很大程度上是因为海湾地区拥有约6000万桶的炼油产能。但由于无法安全地将这些产品运出,大部分产能受到限制。

Uh, the pipelines that exist through Saudi Arabia and, uh, the Emirates are crude. So that's why you're seeing a relatively muted reaction on crude prices, but a huge reaction, uh, on product prices, because there's simply not enough, uh, product moving into the market. Well, your involvement certainly allowed for the European, uh, release of their reserves. Have you been asked to do more by the United States to get more refined products Here we are working with our ego as partners, uh, to move as much as we can.

嗯,经过沙特阿拉伯和阿拉伯联合酋长国的现有管道输送的是原油。这就是为什么原油价格反应相对温和,而产品价格却出现巨大波动的原因,因为进入市场的成品油数量根本不足。嗯,您的参与确实促成了欧洲释放其战略储备。美国是否要求你们做更多工作以提供更多成品油?在这里,我们与我们的ECHO合作伙伴共同努力,尽可能多地运输产品。

We? The point remains that, uh, there is no substitute for safe transit through the Strait of Hormuz. Uh, that needs to be restored as quickly as possible. Uh, once that happens, you will have, uh, product moving at a much brisker face. Uh, long term, there has been a lot of talk about finding alternatives to the Strait of Hormuz. Uh, I know there has been a lot of talk about studying export pipelines, uh, that you've been in with Saudi Arabia as well as the UAE.

我们?关键在于,呃,霍尔木兹海峡的安全通行无可替代。呃,必须尽快恢复这一通道的畅通。呃,一旦实现这一点,产品的流动速度将大幅加快。呃,从长远来看,关于寻找霍尔木兹海峡的替代方案已有很多讨论。呃,我知道你们与沙特阿拉伯以及阿联酋一直在探讨研究出口管道的问题。

Are those talks still going on? How much are you making? Absolutely. We're making a lot of progress on those. But again, pipelines can only carry crude, uh, at this point. So you can solve for one portion of the problem, but you cannot solve for the fact that not only that 20% of the world's crude goes through the Strait of Hormuz, you can do pipelines around it, but you can't do pipelines for the product that that is missing the 6 million or more barrels of refined product that goes through.

这些讨论还在继续吗?你们取得了多少进展?绝对有。我们在这些方面取得了很大进展。但同样,目前管道只能运输原油,呃。因此,你们可以解决部分问题,但无法解决这样一个事实:不仅全球20%的原油通过霍尔木兹海峡,你们可以修建绕过该海峡的管道,却无法为那些缺失的产品修建管道——即每天有600万桶或更多成品油需要通过该海峡运输。

You're also missing 20% of the world's LNG has to go out on ships. It can't go out on pipelines. It's got to go through the strait. And finally, somewhere between a third quarter to a third of the world's fertilizer comes through the strait. That's got to come out ships. And that's just from the energy side, not counting commercial goods and everything else. So there is no substitute for safe passage through the Strait of.

此外,全球20%的液化天然气(LNG)必须通过船舶运输,无法通过管道输送,必须经过该海峡。最后,全球三分之一到三分之一的化肥也通过该海峡运输,这些也必须通过船舶运出。这还只是能源领域,尚未计入商业货物及其他一切。因此,霍尔木兹海峡的安全通行无可替代。

Well, with regards to crude in that pipeline, though, if there was some sort of concrete deal with regards to the situation in Iran in the Strait of Hormuz, do those pipeline plans then get p

那么,关于该管道中的原油,如果就伊朗局势及霍尔木兹海峡的情况达成某种具体协议,这些管道计划是否会随后被

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