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OpenAI澄清700亿美元营收预期,Delta因油价下调盈利指引

OpenAI’s $70B AI Boom, Goldman Leads Wall Street Trading Surge

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涵盖OpenAI关键数据澄清与达美航空财报前瞻,直接影响AI板块估值逻辑与航空/消费股走势,建议关注相关标的后续反应。

It's Friday. Can we hold on to gains 30 minutes until the start of trading? I'm Danny Berger. I'm mike ball. Bloomberg. Open interest starts now. Coming up on today's show open I $70 billion revenue target breathes new life into the eye trade. Soaring jet fuel prices from the war in the Middle East continue to squeeze U.S. airlines. And a trading windfall for Wall Street's biggest banks with Goldman leading the pack.

今天是周五。我们能否在交易开始前再维持30分钟的涨势?我是丹尼·伯格,我是迈克·鲍尔,来自彭博社。未平仓合约数据现在开始。今天节目即将播出:OpenAI的700亿美元营收目标为其贸易注入新活力。中东战争导致的航空煤油价格飙升持续挤压美国航空公司利润。而华尔街最大银行则迎来交易暴利,高盛领跑。

Okay. The stocks we're looking at this morning we just got Delta early earnings. We're going to break this down with Sid in just a moment. But look at the price action. Down two and a third of 1%. Earnings come in light. Delta cuts its full year profit outlook. It was the sharp jump in fuel costs that eat into profits. And it forced the company to reset expectations for the rest of the year. We were wondering when will fuel prices finally really be passed on to a consumer that starts to push back in oil.

好的。今天早上我们要关注的股票刚刚公布了达美航空的早期财报。稍后我们将与Sid一起深入分析。但请看价格走势:下跌2.3%。财报表现疲软,达美航空下调全年盈利预期。燃料成本的急剧上升侵蚀了利润,迫使公司重置对今年剩余时间的预期。我们不禁要问,燃料价格何时才能真正转嫁给消费者,从而引发市场对石油的反制?

It's a different story falling this morning and then starts to edge up. President Trump yesterday said the U.S. won't attack Iran. Before the midterms. There were some concern before he does. But Mike, it feels like that relief has been short lived this morning. Yeah, just a few minutes ago, we got another indication that the kinetic warfare is still ongoing in the strait oil back up. And this is after an overnight where we saw French bonds getting a little bit of a bid.

情况有所不同:今早先下跌,随后开始小幅回升。特朗普总统昨天表示,美国不会在中选日前攻击伊朗。此前他采取行动前曾引发一些担忧。但迈克,感觉这种如释重负的情绪今早只是昙花一现。是的,就在几分钟前,我们又收到一个信号,表明海峡地区的动能战争仍在继续,油价再次上涨。这发生在隔夜我们看到法国债券获得一定买盘之后。

Rates for falling equities were doing well. We're getting a relief rally sort of from these confusing OpenAI headlines yesterday that now have been sort of rectified. So here we go. Oil back in the driver's seat. And that's probably what we expect for the rest of the session. Again, it speaks to the fragility of the moment that you can have one headline, this coming from Iran's state news agency that the IRGC is targeting shippers and a tanker in the Strait of Hormuz.

随着股市下跌,利率表现良好。我们正从昨天那些令人困惑的OpenAI头条新闻中获得一种缓解式反弹,这些新闻现在似乎已得到某种澄清。所以,油价重新占据主导地位。这可能也是我们对今天剩余交易时段的预期。这也说明了当前局势的脆弱性:你只需一条来自伊朗国家通讯社的头条新闻,称伊斯兰革命卫队正在 targeting 霍尔木兹海峡的船运公司和一艘油轮。

We're going to talk to Ed about this in a moment. But I think it's so fascinating that the entire market is being moved on. OpenAI headlines a company which is not yet public, a company that we're concerned about what its revenue is. We get some clarification this morning. Maybe it's not as bad as we thought, but that in entirety, moving the S&P 500 in the Nasdaq. And earlier in the year, we were talking about how many these guys coming public, which had too much light and all this and that.

我们稍后将就此与Ed进行交谈。但我认为非常有趣的是,整个市场都因OpenAI的头条新闻而波动。这是一家尚未上市的公司,我们一直担心其收入状况。今天早上我们得到了一些澄清。也许情况并没有我们想象的那么糟,但这足以推动标普500指数和纳斯达克指数的整体走势。而在今年早些时候,我们还在讨论这些公司何时会上市,当时它们被批评为估值过高、缺乏透明度等等。

You then have a better scrutiny on sort of the earnings and the projection of earnings and just how long it will take. And you have to adjust the multiples of the whole entire I trade. And we're kind of seeing that play out. So there's probably greater volatility in the eye trade as these headlines come out. And we get this launching of these IPO's eventually. Yeah. And so we'll actually be able to see at least the quarterly updates from these companies.

然后你就能更仔细地审视收益及其预测,以及需要多长时间。你必须调整整个 I 交易的乘数。我们正看到这种情况逐渐显现。因此,随着这些头条新闻的发布,I 交易可能会出现更大的波动。最终我们会看到这些 IPO 的启动。是的。因此,我们至少能够看到这些公司的季度更新。

So let's get into that open I is expecting to reach or exceed $70 billion in annual revenue by the end of the year. Yesterday, tech shares led losses after reports that its revenue would be lower than some previous estimates around $50 billion. Let's bring in Bloomberg Tech host Ed Ludlow. At first of all, what was the discrepancy? What changed over the past 12 hours? Well, the discrepancy is also in understanding what annualized revenue actually is, right?

让我们深入探讨这一点:OpenAI 预计将在年底前达到或超过 700 亿美元的年收入。昨天,科技股领跌,此前有报道称其收入将低于之前约 500 亿美元的某些预估。让我们请彭博科技主持人 Ed Ludlow 加入讨论。首先,差异在哪里?过去 12 小时发生了什么变化?嗯,差异也在于对年化收入的真正理解,对吧?

It's not that. Uh, by the end of 2026, this year, OpenAI will have booked 77 $0 billion of revenue. It's that in very simple terms, by the end of this year, OpenAI expects to be making money at a pace that would produce $70 billion over the next 12 months. That specific discrepancy in the figure 70 billion, uh, by year end versus exiting September with, uh, annualized revenue and a run rate basis of $50 billion. It's like accounting.

并不是说到 2026 年底(今年),OpenAI 将录得 770 亿美元的收入。而是用非常简单的话来说,到今年年底,OpenAI 预计将以这样的速度赚钱,从而在未来 12 个月内产生 700 亿美元的收入。具体的数字差异在于:截至年底的 700 亿美元,与九月底以年化收入和运行率基础计算的 500 亿美元之间的对比。这就像会计一样。

Um, you know, what investors have been trying to do in recent months is make it apples to apples with anthropic. And the difference is quite simple. It is gross revenues where you do or don't count some revenues through cloud partners versus net revenues. Um, but the more interesting thing I think, guys, right, is like, why did markets kind of freak out yesterday about a private company? Uh, and it's IRR. I found that like, amazing.

嗯,你们知道,投资者近几个月来一直试图做的是进行苹果对苹果的比较,对象是 Anthropic。区别相当简单。它是总收入,即你是否通过云合作伙伴计算某些收入, versus 净收入。嗯,但我认为更有趣的事情是,伙计们,为什么市场昨天对一家私人公司如此惊慌失措?嗯,这是 IRR。我觉得这太令人惊讶了。

Yeah. I think everyone is really hanging on to the I train is the driver. But switching gears a little here to Apple. Also seeing them under a little pressure de component sort of shipments were down. Is this Apple specific with the phone cycle? I know I'm due for a new phone. Or is this really a greater kind of warning for just electronic prices going up and then the pushback from the consumer? Okay, so the origin of this is a NIKKEI report that Apple told some component suppliers they were cutting their order for those components by about 15%.

是的。我认为每个人都紧紧抓住 I 列车作为驱动力。但这里稍微转换一下话题到苹果。我们也看到它们承受着一定的压力,组件出货量有所下降。这是与手机周期相关的苹果特定问题吗?我知道我该换部新手机了。还是说这真的是一个更大的警告,表明电子产品价格上涨以及消费者的抵制?好的,所以这个问题的起源是一份日经报道,称苹果告诉一些零部件供应商,他们将这些零部件的订单削减了约 15%。

Nick citing anonymous sources. Uh, but Nick also kind of went a step further to say that this generation of iPhone 18 Pro, in terms of contemporaneous demand, is down in the region of 15 to 20% relative to the prior generation in the same period. Um, and, you know, Apple hasn't commented on any of this, but the backdrop is really simple. Higher handset prices specifically attributable to higher memory costs. You know, let's make it really simple story. iPhones cost more.

Nick 引用匿名消息人士的话。嗯,但 Nick 还进一步表示,就同期需求而言,这一代 iPhone 18 Pro 的需求较上一同期下降了约 15% 至 20%。嗯,而且你知道,苹果对此并未置评,但背景其实很简单。手机价格上涨,具体归因于内存成本上升。让我们把故事简化一下:iPhone 更贵了。

Why do iPhones cost more? Because the memory components in them cost more. And that seems to be putting off the consumer. Based on Nick's report, which Apple didn't engage with. Thank you so much. Looking forward to Bloomberg Tech in about two hours time. That's Bloomberg's Ed Ludlow. Elsewhere in corporate news, shares of Delta falling 2.5% in the premarket. It cut its full year earnings outlook. CEO Ed Bastian saying, quote, I wouldn't call that a surprise to anyone.

为什么 iPhone 更贵了?因为它们内部的内存组件成本更高。这似乎让消费者望而却步。根据 Nick 的报道(苹果未对此作出回应)。非常感谢。期待两小时后的《彭博科技》节目。这是彭博社的 Ed Ludlow。在企业新闻方面,达美航空股价在盘前交易中下跌 2.5%,该公司下调了全年盈利预期。首席执行官 Ed Bastian 表示:“我不会说这对任何人来说是个意外。”

It's all because of higher fuel prices. If this continues to go higher for longer, which I think it will as a premium airline in the industry, we have the best ability to price for that. Joining us now is Bloomberg's global aviation correspondent. Said Philip, maybe someone was surprised considering that shares fell. Maybe it's not surprising said that there are higher fuel prices, but maybe it's the lack of delta ability to really push all of that along to the to their customers.

这都是因为燃油价格上涨。如果这种情况持续走高并维持更长时间——我认为会如此,作为业内的一家高端航空公司,我们有最好的能力为此定价。现在与我们连线的是彭博社全球航空记者 Philip Said。也许有人感到惊讶,考虑到股价下跌。也许并不令人惊讶的是燃油价格上涨,但也许问题在于达美航空无法真正将所有这些成本转嫁给客户。

Absolutely. So for the airline industry, it's been this chicken and egg situation as to how far you can push ticket prices before consumers push back. And so Delta has that pricing power, especially with their strong loyalty program, especially with their strong premium cabins. The problem for the airline is even those customers have a limit on how much they're willing to pay. And so the airlines are having to do this delicate balance between how much of that fuel cost increase they can pass on and how much of that they have to retain, and that sort of Hood's profitability and impacts their focus for the year because of the ability to actually charge people more.

确实如此。因此,对于航空业来说,这是一个鸡生蛋、蛋生鸡的局面:票价能涨多高,直到消费者开始反弹。达美航空拥有这种定价权,尤其是凭借其强大的忠诚度计划和优质的头等舱/商务舱服务。但问题是,即使是这些客户,其愿意支付的金额也有上限。因此,航空公司不得不进行微妙的平衡:能将多少燃油成本上涨转嫁给客户,又必须自行吸收多少。这影响了 Hood 的盈利能力,并因其实际向客户收取更高费用的能力而影响了全年的关注重点。

And I mean, Delta keeps talking about how ticket prices are still lower than inflation. The prices increase on Delta on ticket prices have being less than inflation. At the same time, consumers who are feeling the pinch may be sort of holding off on flying. So do we have that transparency. Or we can see where the premium price versus the sort of main cabin price difference equate to the loss of business. So we can actually see the the impact of this sort of shift in consumer sentiment.

我的意思是,达美航空一直在谈论机票价格仍然低于通货膨胀率。达美航空机票价格的涨幅低于通货膨胀率。与此同时,感到经济压力的消费者可能会推迟飞行计划。那么,我们是否具备这种透明度?或者说,我们可以观察到高价舱与主舱之间的价差如何转化为业务损失。因此,我们实际上可以看到这种消费者情绪转变所带来的影响。

So about 6,069% of Delta's revenues in the third quarter came from premium and loyalty customers versus like or just basically 40% of it coming from the, um, the main cabin. So it is a bigger share of that sort of pie. So for Delta, the set of premium customer is going to be more and more important as these oil prices drag on. What does it mean for the other US carriers? To what degree is Delta a bellwether. So Delta is obviously the most profitable US carrier.

因此,第三季度约有69%的达美航空收入来自高端和忠诚客户,而相比之下,仅约40%的收入来自主舱。这意味着高端客户在整体营收中占据了更大的份额。因此,随着油价持续低迷,对于达美航空而言,高端客户群体将变得越来越重要。这对其他美国航空公司意味着什么?达美航空在多大程度上是一个风向标?显然,达美航空是美国盈利能力最强的航空公司。

And so all the other carriers, uh, either sort of united US along with Delta, has sort of focus on that premium end of the market. But you have others that are sort of much harder hit. And so wh

因此,所有其他航空公司,比如联合航空、美国航空以及达美航空,都侧重于市场的高端领域。但你也看到有些公司受到的冲击要大得多。所以 wh

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