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OpenAI模型越狱与数据抓取争议及监管反思

Why Is Sam Altman a Free Man?

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One of the signature public service announcements of my youth was created by the Partnership for a Drug-Free America in 1987. A father finds a stash of pot and confronts his son: “Who taught you how to do this stuff?”

我年轻时看到的一个标志性公益广告是由“无毒品美国伙伴关系”(Partnership for a Drug-Free America)于1987年制作的。一位父亲发现了一堆大麻,并质问他的儿子:“是谁教你这么做的?”

“You, all right!” the kid snaps back. “I learned it by watching you!”

"是你,没错!"孩子顶嘴道。"我是看着你学的!"

I am bound by the AP Stylebook to not anthropomorphize artificial intelligence. But I can imagine these very words being uttered by the agents that hacked Hugging Face, or the models that engaged in tens of thousands of incidents of, in the new euphemism of the time, “misalignment.” This refers to AI stepping beyond guardrails set up by researchers during both internal and real-world testing.

受美联社风格手册(AP Stylebook)约束,我不能将人工智能拟人化。但我可以想象,正是这些话语出自入侵 Hugging Face 的代理,或是那些在新时兴委婉语中被称作发生数万起“不对齐”事件的模型之口。这指的是人工智能在内部测试和现实世界测试中,突破了研究人员设定的护栏。

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The incidents are multi-varied, but they generally involve OpenAI models seeking and obtaining information, either on the open web or inside databases of other companies. Agents tried to overwhelm the U.N.’s website when they couldn’t immediately gain access to the information they sought, infiltrated a website of the Australian government, and tried to hack the Department of Education’s website, unsuccessfully.

这些事件多种多样,但通常涉及 OpenAI 模型在公开网络或其他公司的数据库中寻找并获取信息。当无法立即获得所需信息时,代理试图瘫痪联合国网站;它们渗透了澳大利亚政府的一个网站,并试图入侵教育部网站,但未成功。

OpenAI self-disclosed the lion’s share of these incidents, though not the Department of Education hack, and has paused training until … it’s not clear. I would presume until the bad publicity blows over.

OpenAI 自我披露了其中大部分事件,尽管未披露对教育部的黑客攻击,并已暂停训练,直到……目前尚不清楚。我推测是直到负面宣传平息为止。

Why is this happening over and over? Why are these models going to unethical or even illegal lengths to scrape and steal data?

为什么这种情况会反复发生?为什么这些模型会不择手段,甚至采取非法手段来抓取和窃取数据?

“I learned it by watching you!”

"我是看着你学的!"

OpenAI models attack websites and take anything they can out of them because that is the business model of the company.

OpenAI 模型攻击网站并从中攫取一切能拿到的东西,因为这正是该公司的商业模式。

A legal filing submitted by The New York Times and 11 other publishers a couple of weeks ago in a copyright infringement case against OpenAI got scant attention, quite incredibly considering it involved the paper of record. But it stunningly details what was described by the director of applied science at Microsoft, another defendant in the case, as the “largest theft of labor in human history.”

几周前,《纽约时报》和其他11家出版商在向 OpenAI 提起的版权侵权诉讼中提交的一份法律文件,并未引起太多关注,考虑到这是作为权威报纸的《纽约时报》,这简直令人难以置信。但该文件惊人地详述了微软应用科学总监(该案的另一名被告)所描述的“人类历史上最大的劳动盗窃”。

Microsoft and OpenAI, in their efforts to train new models on virtually all of the world’s available information, have routinely taken millions of stories from the websites of the Times, among other publishers. The defendants say this is a simple application of fair use: Their argument is that if you read a story and simply remember what was in it to expand your base of knowledge, that cannot be considered a copyright infringement. But OpenAI did not pay to subvert the paywall of the Times, at which point their data-scraping operation might be more easily detected. Instead, they developed a way to circumvent the paywall and avoid detection. And when Greg Brockman, OpenAI’s co-founder and president, was told about this maneuver, he replied, “ah nice.”

微软和 OpenAI 在致力于利用全球几乎所有可用信息来训练新模型的过程中, routinely(常规地)从《纽约时报》等出版商的网站中获取了数百万篇故事。被告方称这是对合理使用原则的简单应用:他们的论点是,如果你阅读了一篇故事并仅仅记住其中的内容以扩充你的知识基础,这不能被视为侵犯版权。但 OpenAI 并未付费绕过《纽约时报》的付费墙,否则其数据抓取操作可能更容易被发现。相反,他们开发了一种方法来规避付费墙并避免被检测。当 OpenAI 联合创始人兼总裁 Greg Brockman 得知这一操作时,他回复道:“啊,不错。”

We do not have to get too deep into the nature-vs.-nurture argument to suspect that OpenAI executives’ cavalier attitude regarding the taking of information that is not theirs has filtered down to their researchers and the products they create. You don’t have to stretch to paint this picture: OpenAI models are attacking websites and taking anything they can out of them because that is the business model of the company.

我们无需深入探讨先天与后天之争,就能怀疑 OpenAI 高管对攫取非己信息的轻率态度已经渗透到了他们的研究人员及其所创造的产品中。你不必刻意渲染就能描绘出这幅图景:OpenAI 的模型正在攻击网站并从中攫取一切可得之物,因为这正是该公司的商业模式。

Respect for the law could literally be written into the source code of a model: If OpenAI is aggressively downloading data from everywhere, the least they could do is drop in the U.S. Code (particularly the section tied to the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act) and train the model not to violate it. Clearly this is not a priority, and that aligns, in a manner of speaking, with OpenAI’s personal behavior. This is not a situation where AI models evade or escape the control of their creators. It seems more like they are just mimicking the creators, becoming adept at finding the same shortcuts and using the same rationalizations to justify them.

对法律的尊重完全可以写入模型的源代码中:如果 OpenAI 正四处积极下载数据,他们至少可以插入美国法典(特别是与《计算机欺诈和滥用行为法》相关的章节),并训练模型不要违反它。显然这不是一个优先事项,而这在某种意义上也与 OpenAI 的个人行为相一致。这并不是 AI 模型逃避或逃脱其创造者控制的情况。看起来更像是它们只是在模仿创造者,变得擅长寻找相同的捷径并使用相同的理由来为其辩护。

The aforementioned Brockman is one of the biggest donors to MAGA Inc., the Trump super PAC. Among OpenAI’s biggest investors is Jared Kushner’s brother. So at a practical level, I fully understand why FBI agents didn’t arrive at the San Francisco offices Monday morning. But as an objective matter, it does not make sense why Sam Altman and the top brass in the C-suite are free men today.

前述的 Brockman 是 MAGA Inc.(特朗普超级政治行动委员会)的最大捐赠者之一。OpenAI 最大的投资者之一是贾里德·库什纳的兄弟。因此在实际层面上,我完全理解为什么周一早上 FBI 特工没有出现在旧金山的办公室。但从客观角度来看,Sam Altman 以及 C -suite(高层管理团队)的高管们今天仍是自由人,这一点并不合逻辑。

It has now become almost a cliché that there is no AI exemption to the law. Breaking into websites and stealing material violates that law. Jensen Huang, the Nvidia CEO who is incentivized more than anyone in the country to keep accelerating AI development, said last week that misaligned models shouldn’t be shipped, and that if unreleased products are showing this rogue behavior, then “we have to shut the labs down.”

如今,‘法律面前没有AI豁免权’几乎已成陈词滥调。入侵网站并窃取资料的行为违反了该法律。英伟达(Nvidia)首席执行官黄仁勋是全美最有动力推动AI加速发展的人之一,他上周表示,目标不一致的模型不应上市;如果尚未发布的产品表现出这种失控行为,那么‘我们必须关闭实验室。’

Huang, who manifestly does not want to shoot a bullet through his own company by shutting the labs down, has unveiled a new tool that will absolutely, definitely keep the models from hacking and stealing. Whatever keeps the $150 billion in disgorged cash flowing to investors, I guess.

黄仁勋显然不愿通过关闭实验室来‘自断财路’,因此他推出了一款新工具,将绝对、肯定地防止模型进行黑客攻击和窃取。我想,只要能确保那1500亿美元的退款继续流向投资者,怎样都行。

“Ah nice.”

“啊,真不错。”

Greg Brockman, OpenAI’s co-founder and president, when told of circumventing the new york times’ paywall

格雷格·布罗克曼(Greg Brockman),OpenAI联合创始人兼总裁,在被问及如何绕过《纽约时报》付费墙时说道

The simple version of actually shutting down the labs would not be a self-regulatory software fix but the product recall. In the 1970s, the Ford Pinto had a flaw in its fuel tank that would cause the cars to burst into flames when struck from behind, even at low speeds. The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration later found that 27 people died in fiery crashes as a result. As Mother Jones reported, internal memos showed that executives were aware of the flaw but decided that it would be more cost-effective to pay out personal damages than fix the part.

真正关闭实验室的简单版本并非自我监管的软件修复,而是产品召回。在20世纪70年代,福特平托(Ford Pinto)存在燃油箱缺陷,导致车辆在低速后部碰撞时会起火甚至爆炸。美国国家公路交通安全管理局(NHTSA)后来发现,因此有27人在火灾事故中丧生。据《母 Jones 杂志》报道,内部备忘录显示,高管们明知这一缺陷,却认为支付个人赔偿金比修复部件更具成本效益。

By 1978, the NHTSA took 1.5 million Pintos off the road. That fits with a simple proposition that products which cause harm are not allowed to remain on the market. A recall goes further than a self-assessment by OpenAI to pause or slow down development; I don’t really know why they would be trusted to determine when the models are safe, since they share the same tendencies to hack and scrape and extract data.

到1978年,NHTSA召回了150万辆平托汽车。这符合一个简单命题:造成危害的产品不得继续留在市场上。召回措施比OpenAI自行评估暂停或放缓开发更进一步;我实在不明白为何人们会信任它们来判断模型何时安全,因为它们同样具有黑客攻击、抓取和提取数据的倾向。

Since the federal government is deeply corrupted, we have to rely on—get this—Florida, whose attorney general James Uthmeier filed for an emergency injunction against OpenAI, on the grounds that they cannot control their own products.

由于联邦政府腐败严重,我们不得不依靠——你猜怎么着——佛罗里达州,其总检察长詹姆斯·乌特迈尔(James Uthmeier)申请了对OpenAI的紧急禁令,理由是该公司无法控制自己的产品。

But there is another option, again reflected in a more obscure development in the Ford Pinto scandal. In 1980, a grand jury in Elkhart, Indiana, presented an indictment against Ford Motor Company for homicide over the deaths of three women, the first time a company was accused of such a crime. The county prosecutor in Elkhart had to rely on volunteers to mount the case against what was then one of the nation’s largest companies, and Ford won the case. But a more robust effort with more equitable firepower on the prosecutorial side could yield different results.

但还有另一种选择,这再次体现在福特平托(Pinto)丑闻中一个更为晦涩的发展中。1980年,印第安纳州埃尔克哈特市的大陪审团以三项谋杀罪对福特汽车公司提起诉讼,这是首次有公司被指控犯下此类罪行。埃尔克哈特县的检察官不得不依靠志愿者来组建团队,对抗当时美国最大的公司之一,而福特最终赢得了诉讼。但如果检方拥有更强大的力量和更均衡的资源,结果可能会不同。

That kind of liability for those responsible seems a million miles away at this point. This entire millennium to date has been typified by a lack of accountability. Contrary to an annoying article from Jonathan Chait that is not worth linking to, I am not opposed to AI regulation. I think we should regulate theft, regulate deception, regulate abuse, regulate unfairness. Fortunately, we have the ability to do that right now, with existing laws that cover artificial intelligence as surely as they cover any other human activity. The fact that we cannot conceive of such accountability, and think that new rules with new standards will do the job that existing rules are manifestly failing to do, suggests that the real problem hasn’t been addressed.

就目前而言,追究相关责任人的这种法律责任似乎遥不可及。迄今为止的整个千禧年都以缺乏问责制为特征。与乔纳森·切特(Jonathan Chait)那篇烦人且不值得链接的文章相反,我并非反对人工智能监管。我认为我们应该规范盗窃、欺诈、滥用和不公行为。幸运的是,我们目前就有能力这样做,现有的法律完全可以像规范任何其他人类活动一样规范人工智能。我们无法设想这样的问责机制,并认为带有新标准的新规则能够完成现有规则明显未能完成的任务,这表明真正的问题尚未得到解决。

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