Paramount与WBD并购案达成和解,交易有望9月30日前完成
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Listen on demand wherever you get your podcasts or watch us live on YouTube. We want to get to one of the big company news stories this morning and that is Paramount Sky Dance reaching a settlement according to people familiar with the matter with California and other states suing to block its proposed acquisition of Warner Brothers Discovery. That means we need to bring in Githa Rangothan, our uh media analyst here at Bloomberg Intelligence to cover this.
在您收听播客的任何地方按需收听,或在YouTube上观看我们的直播。我们今天想谈谈一则重要的公司新闻,据知情人士透露,派拉蒙(Paramount)与天空之舞(Skydance)已达成和解,而加利福尼亚州及其他州正提起诉讼以阻止其拟议的对华纳兄弟探索公司(Warner Bros. Discovery)的收购。这意味着我们需要请出彭博情报的媒体分析师吉塔·兰戈坦(Githa Rangothan)来报道此事。
She's been covering this story from the beginning. Githa, this sounds like this was the one thing we're waiting for. What are you hearing in terms of uh how how solid this uh potential compromise is?
她从一开始就在追踪这则新闻。吉塔,这听起来像是我们一直在等待的那个关键节点。就这一潜在妥协方案的稳固程度而言,你听到了什么消息?
Hey, Scarlet. Yeah, I think it's it's pretty solid just from uh you know, whatever whatever we've been hearing over the weekend. So, we've kind of gone from you know, is this deal ever going to close to kind of broader promises to to now some concessions that seem really really reasonable from a Paramount standpoint. And I say that because one of the things that you know I think investors were really fearful about with this merger and the potential settlement was whether they would have to divest assets especially whether they would have to divest the cable networks which which would have been a really uh you know problematic because it would directly have affected their synergy target and they have a really ambitious synergy target of $6 billion.
嘿,斯嘉丽。是的,我认为它相当稳固,至少从我们周末听到的各种消息来看。因此,我们的讨论焦点已经从“这笔交易是否最终能完成”,转向了更广泛的承诺,再到如今一些从派拉蒙角度来看似乎非常合理的让步。我之所以这么说,是因为投资者对此次合并及潜在和解方案最担忧的一点是,他们是否必须剥离资产,特别是是否必须剥离有线电视频道。这将是一个棘手的问题,因为会直接影响他们的协同效应目标,而他们有一个雄心勃勃的60亿美元协同效应目标。
So it looks like they don't have to do anything on that front. They do however have to promise to to uh theatrically release 30 films from both studios every year failing which there will be a penalty. Uh they also have to make an investment in you know the California production uh and also maintain the two studio operations. So, they can't dispose of any of the studios. But all of that seems to be something that David Ellison will be, I think, happy to live with as long as he can get this deal closed by that September 30th date and avoid those very, very expensive ticking fees.
因此,看起来他们在这一方面无需采取任何行动。然而,他们必须承诺每年从两家工作室各发行30部院线电影,否则将面临罚款。他们还必须对加州制作进行投资,并维持两家工作室的运营。也就是说,他们不能处置任何一家工作室。但所有这些条件似乎都是大卫·埃利森(David Ellison)能够接受的,只要他能在9月30日之前完成这笔交易,从而避免那些极其高昂的按日累积费用。
Paramount stock is up about uh 8 and a half% today. Warner Brothers Discovery up about 10%. So, the market's happy about that. All right, Githa. I think this is a little bit of be careful what you wish for. They're going to get their deal done now. They got to operate this thing. What are the key challenges do you think for this combined company going forward?
派拉蒙股价今日上涨约8.5%。华纳兄弟探索公司上涨约10%。因此,市场对此感到高兴。好的,吉萨。我认为这有点像是‘小心你所祈求的’。他们现在将完成交易。他们必须运营好这家公司。你认为这家合并后的公司未来面临的关键挑战是什么?
Yeah, the biggest challenge there, Paul, is definitely going to be the leverage, the debt. So, we're looking at about $80 billion of debt. It's going to be about 6 and a half times levered. So, it's really really going to come down as you just pointed out to execution about getting those synergies and trying to drive this to three times leverage within a few years after closing. That's a tall order given that you know you have two businesses that are in uh secular decline which are the TV businesses.
是的,保罗,那里最大的挑战绝对是杠杆率,也就是债务。我们预计债务约为800亿美元。杠杆率将达到约6.5倍。正如你刚才指出的那样,关键在于执行层面,即实现协同效应并试图在交易完成后几年内将杠杆率降至3倍。鉴于你知道电视业务处于长期衰退之中,这是一个艰巨的任务。
Yes, they can extract some synergies but you're doing that at the cost of those businesses bleeding further and then remember the studios is really a very very up and down business and you've always said this Paul it's like it's such a hit and hit or miss business. It's not predictable at all. So you just look at the two combined studios last year they had about a 30% share of the domestic box office. This year year to date they're only at about 10%.
是的,他们可以提取一些协同效应,但这是以这些业务进一步失血为代价的。然后请记住,制片厂业务确实是一个非常起伏不定的行业,而且你一直说过,保罗,这就像是一个碰运气的生意,完全不可预测。所以你看两家合并后的制片厂,去年他们占据了国内票房约30%的份额。而今年截至目前,他们仅占约10%。
So, you know, it's it's again, it's going to be a tough slog on that on that front. Streaming is is definitely a bright spot for both companies, but again, we're we're seeing even streaming leaders really struggle. You look at the likes of Netflix, and you know, every day we see some engagement data that comes out that doesn't look so optimistic, really struggling against the likes of YouTube and some of the other social media platforms.
所以,你知道的,在这方面又将是一场艰难的苦战。流媒体确实是两家公司的亮点,但同样,我们看到即使是流媒体领导者也在真正挣扎。看看Netflix之类的公司,你知道,我们每天都会看到一些发布出来的用户参与度数据,看起来并不那么乐观,在与YouTube和其他一些社交媒体平台的竞争中苦苦挣扎。
So whichever way you kind of slice or dice it, this is really going to be a tough road ahead for Paramount's guidance.
所以,无论你从哪个角度去分析,对于派拉蒙的指引来说,前方都将是一条艰难的道路。
Yeah, the company Paramount has promised merger synergies of six billion. So that means a lot of cost cuts, probably job eliminations. Um and you mentioned all the challenges um operationally if they're going to grow their way out of this debt. Um what part of the business has the best prospects for growth?
是的,派拉蒙公司承诺了60亿美元的并购协同效应。这意味着大量的成本削减,可能还有裁员。嗯,你提到了所有运营方面的挑战,如果他们要通过增长来摆脱债务的话。嗯,业务的哪一部分最具增长前景?
Yeah, definitely. Streaming I think has the best prospects? But remember this is at its heart David Ellison and you know the whole Oracle backing at its heart is a technology operation. So I think one of the things that the market and investors are kind of banking on is the use of technology uh in the media operations you know whether that's for content you know content creation content production uh eliminating a lot of those post-p production costs I mean I mean they do have a seat at the table when it comes to AI and so it's going to come down to how well they can kind of leverage some of the the edge that they have there uh and implement those across their media operations but I think definitely one of the one of the business units that everybody's going to be looking at very closely is going to be the streaming side and how much you know how fast they can go profitability even though 70% Scarlet the combined company 70% of EBA will still be from the secularly challenged TV businesses
是的,毫无疑问。我认为流媒体业务的前景最好?但请记住,其核心是戴维·埃里森(David Ellison),而且从本质上讲,整个甲骨文(Oracle)的支持背后是一家技术运营公司。因此,我认为市场和投资者所寄予厚望的一点是,在媒体运营中运用技术,无论是用于内容创作、内容制作,还是消除大量后期制作成本。我的意思是,他们在人工智能方面确实拥有话语权,所以关键在于他们能否很好地利用自身在此方面的优势,并将其应用于媒体运营的各个环节。但我认为,大家都会密切关注的一个业务部门将是流媒体板块,以及尽管合并后的公司70%的收入仍将来自长期面临挑战的电视业务,但他们实现盈利的速度有多快。
30 seconds left here Githa what's the Wall Street's view of David Ellison he's kind of a new entity to Wall Street has there been enough time for the street to get a sense of is this the management management team that can execute this I think they can uh Paul and actually whatever we've seen so far, he's actually uh been pretty impressive because he's more than delivered on the synergy targets for the Sky Dance acquisition.
这里还剩30秒。吉塔(Githa),华尔街对戴维·埃里森的看法如何?他对华尔街来说是一个相对新的实体,市场是否有足够的时间来形成判断,即这是否是一支能够执行该计划的优秀管理团队?我认为可以。保罗(Paul),实际上到目前为止我们所看到的,他表现得相当令人印象深刻,因为他超额完成了天空舞步(Sky Dance)收购案的协同效应目标。
Remember this was this is Paramount Sky Dance. They just executed that transaction and so far he's he's actually more than delivered what he had promised. So let's see.
请记住,这是派拉蒙与天空舞步(Paramount Sky Dance)。他们刚刚完成了这笔交易,到目前为止,他实际上已经超额兑现了之前的承诺。让我们拭目以待。
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Edward Price joins us here, non resident senior fellow at NYU joining us here in studio. Ed, I've been getting the sneaky feeling that with President Trump in New York for a couple of days, with the United Nations General Assembly here this week, we've got leaders from Iran coming, which is very rare there. Granted, some some visas. We've got President Zalinsky here. For some reason, it's just me. I'm getting this feeling that we might have some announcements this week on maybe Ukraine, Ukraine, maybe Iran.
爱德华·普莱斯(Edward Price)加入我们,他是纽约大学(NYU)的非驻校高级研究员,目前在我们的演播室。埃德(Ed),我有一种隐隐的感觉,随着特朗普总统这几天待在纽约,联合国大会本周在这里举行,伊朗领导人即将前来,这在以前是非常罕见的。当然,有些签证问题。我们有泽连斯基总统也在这里。不知为何,只有我一个人有这种感觉,我觉得我们本周可能会有一些关于乌克兰或伊朗的公告。
Maybe President Trump is feeling the the pressure with midterms coming up with diesel at 650. Am I just kind of whistling in the dark here or do you think there's possibly some movement here on some of these key global issues?
随着中期选举临近,柴油价格飙升至每加仑6.50美元,特朗普总统是否感受到了压力?我是在杞人忧天,还是你认为在这些关键全球议题上可能出现一些动向?
I don't think you're whistling in the dark. There might be some rhetorical movement and I definitely think that Trump is desperate. I mean, Diesel at 650 at my local gas station is wild. I mean, that's that's fritting everybody's brain that voted for him. Um, but I but I use the word rhetorical because I'm not sure that he is in control of events anymore. Um, Zalinski seems more in control of his war than than does Trump.
我不认为你是在杞人忧天。可能会有一些言辞上的变化,我确实认为特朗普非常绝望。我的意思是,我家附近加油站柴油价格高达每加仑6.50美元简直令人疯狂。说实话,这确实让所有投票给他的人感到震惊。嗯,但我使用“言辞上的”这个词,因为我不确定他还能否掌控局势。扎尔斯基似乎比特朗普更能掌控他的战争。
Um, likewise, she seems like he's in a good position versus Putin. So, I think Trump and Putin, both of them are desperate. Uh, and whatever the announcements, I mean, who knows what they're worth.
同样,看起来他在与普京的对抗中处于有利地位。所以我认为特朗普和普京都处于绝望境地。至于任何声明,我的意思是,谁知道它们有多少分量。
So, if you say Trump is desperate, he's heading into this summit with Xi Jinping in a more desperate position than China.
所以,如果你说特朗普很绝望,那么他在与中国国家主席习近平举行峰会时,处境比中国更为被动。
What kind of prepackaged announcement do you think we'll get um versus what actually will be happening between these two gentlemen? Well, what's a
你认为我们会得到什么样的预先包装好的声明, versus 这两位先生之间实际会发生什么?嗯,什么是
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