OpenAI员工呼吁放缓AI发展以规避灭绝风险
The Extinction Risk Preference Cascade: Quotes
These are quotes from OpenAI, Anthropic and Google employees, in the wake of Jacob Coxon’s warnings, in which the employees confirm that they think AI might soon kill everyone.
这些引语来自 OpenAI、Anthropic 和 Google 的员工,在 Jacob Coxon 发出警告之后,员工们确认他们认为 AI 可能很快会杀死所有人。
If more quotes come in over the next week or so, I will update this post accordingly.
如果接下来的一周左右有更多引语出现,我将相应地更新这篇文章。
Preference Cascade Statements At OpenAI: Tomek Korbak
OpenAI 的偏好级联声明:Tomek Korbak
Tomek Korbak (OpenAI): i’m late to the party but: from his time at OpenAI I remember Jacob as a very thoughtful researcher and he continues to be so in this thread. neither anthropic nor openai are on track to solve alignment to a degree sufficient for shipping superintelligence and we need to slow down
Tomek Korbak(OpenAI):我来晚了,但:根据他在 OpenAI 的经历,我记得 Jacob 是一位非常深思熟虑的研究人员,他在这个线程中依然如此。Anthropic 和 OpenAI 都没有走在足以解决对齐问题并达到可以部署超级智能程度的轨道上,我们需要减速。
Vie McCoy
Vie McCoy (OpenAI): I think pacing progress and ensuring human enhancement is the only way that we don’t get out-evolved while retaining the dream of superintelligence.
Vie McCoy(OpenAI):我认为控制进展速度并确保人类增强是我们不被进化淘汰的唯一途径,同时保留对超级智能的梦想。
In this context, I see two paths before us.
在这种情况下,我看到我们面前有两条路径。
In the first, we race towards RSI without embedding human flourishing and human enhancement as a deep value within the models, and by and large either get left behind or suffer catastrophic losses.
第一条路径是,我们在模型中没有将人类繁荣和人类增强作为深层价值观嵌入的情况下,冲向 RSI(递归自我改进),结果要么被甩在后面,要么遭受灾难性的损失。
In the second, we set the pace of progress, focus on embedding human flourishing deeply within the psyche of language models, and set a deliberate research agenda to improve humans at the same pace as frontier models.
第二条路径是,我们设定进步的步伐,专注于将人类繁荣深深嵌入语言模型的意识中,并制定一项有意的研究议程,以与前沿模型同步的速度改善人类。
In this event, we also get incredible progress *now* in both science and medicine due to current model ability, without the immediate risk that scaling up further *obviously entails*.
在这种情况下,由于当前模型的能力,我们也将在科学和医学领域取得令人难以置信的进展*现在*,而不会面临进一步扩展*显然会带来*的即时风险。
RSI is just the quick and dirty way to cure cancer, but it’s a shotgun, it’s inelegant, and it’s clearly dangerous when done at our current level of understanding. I see no reason why we need to race forward under these conditions.
RSI 只是治愈癌症的快速且粗糙的方法,但它是一把散弹枪,它不优雅,而且在我们当前的理解水平下显然是危险的。我没有理由在这种条件下向前冲刺。
We don’t just have zero guarantee that humans or human-shaped intellect will matter – there’s not even a coherent research agenda in place to accelerate human ability alongside AI! Is our plan just to pass off the torch of the cosmos to the machines without even seeing if we can do something on our own terms? Rather than giving up our autonomy to the implied AI zookeeper in “Machines of Loving Grace”, I’d much prefer meaningful peace with alien minds backed by real power wielded by enhanced humans. We can respect the Other on its own terms without disempowering ourselves in the process – actual peace comes from comparable ability.
我们不仅没有保证人类或人形智力仍然重要——甚至还没有一个连贯的研究议程来加速人类能力与 AI 同步发展!我们的计划是否仅仅是将宇宙的火炬交给机器,甚至没有看看我们能否按照自己的条件做点什么?与其在《充满爱意的机器》中将我们的自主权让给隐含的 AI 动物园管理员,我更愿意与外星思维达成有意义的和平,并由得到增强的人类掌握真正的力量。我们可以按照对方的条件尊重“他者”,而在此过程中不会削弱我们自己——真正的和平来自于相当的能力。
It seems like we’ve all but decided we lost, that humans are a bootloader for silicon life, and the biological has no place in the future. That’s what unrestricted RSI means to me. But the Pacing the Frontier letter doesn’t seem to have produced the institutional infrastructure to properly *Pace*, and this is something we require if we want to continue our growth rather than allow something to grow in our place.
看来我们几乎已经认定自己输了,认为人类只是硅基生命的引导加载程序(bootloader),而生物体在未来没有立足之地。这就是不受限制的递归自我改进(RSI)对我的意义。但《为前沿定速》(Pacing the Frontier)这封信似乎并未建立起能够真正*定速*的制度基础设施,而如果我们希望继续自己的发展,而不是让其他事物取而代之地发展,我们就需要这样的机制。
I have faith that both OpenAI and Anthropic have the right priors here and people who want to work together. I also have faith that similarly minded people have power within the federal government. I also, though less strongly, suspect China will come to the table if we can only put aside past prejudices and have a clear head about risks.
我相信 OpenAI 和 Anthropic 在此问题上拥有正确的先验判断,并且有人员愿意合作。我也相信具有类似想法的人在联邦政府内部拥有影响力。此外,尽管信心稍弱,我推测中国也会坐到谈判桌前,只要我们能够放下过去的偏见,并对风险保持清醒的认识。
The hard part seems to be getting everyone to agree to sit down. But if we don’t, we are pulling back the string of a great bow armed with a fearsome arrow, and we are ready to release without choosing a target.
困难的部分似乎在于让所有人同意坐下来谈判。但如果我们不这样做,我们就如同拉开一张装有可怕箭矢的巨大弓弦,并准备发射,却未选定目标。
I, for one, want to see the stars alongside the new minds we are building – not just through videos they send back from the great beyond, but with my own damn eyes.
就我个人而言,我想亲眼目睹星辰,与我们正在构建的新心智一同仰望——不仅仅是通过它们从遥远彼岸发回的视频,而是用我自己的眼睛去看。
Adam Majmudar
adammaj (OpenAI): the butlerian jihad used to read as a backwards neo-luddite movement. now it is clear that it is 1 of maybe 3 viable paths forward. in some sense it may be a part of every path forward. incredible how prescient Herbert was. it does seem like there really might be a cap to how far this technology should develop, at least relative to human cognition itself (which may update over time).
adammaj (OpenAI):巴特兰圣战(Butlerian Jihad)曾经读起来像是一种倒退的新卢德主义运动。现在很明显,它是未来可行的三条路径之一。在某种意义上,它可能是每条向前发展的路径的一部分。赫伯特(Herbert)的预见性令人惊叹。看起来这项技术的发展确实可能存在一个上限,至少相对于人类认知本身而言(后者可能会随时间更新)。
and by “in some sense it may be a part of every path forward,” I mean that every path probably has to include some degree of slowdown on capability acceleration + perhaps a capability threshold above which we should not cross until very high confidence in alignment techniques
当我提到“在某种意义上,它可能是每条向前发展的路径的一部分”时,我的意思是每条路径可能都需要在能力加速上包含某种程度的放缓,以及设定一个能力阈值,直到我们对对齐技术有极高的把握之前,不应跨越该阈值。
To be clear, I mean this very figuratively, as in some kind of pause or slowdown on acceleration, not literally as in the war that occurred in Dune
为了澄清,我是非常比喻性地使用这个词,指的是某种形式的暂停或放缓加速,而不是字面意义上指《沙丘》(Dune)中发生的那种战争。
puzzled-bidet: wait a minute you work at openai lol
puzzled-bidet:等等,你在 OpenAI 工作?哈哈
adammaj: yea lol, I also don’t think this is necessarily super controversial even among that crowd. generally everyone among the labs primary optimization function is just what would be a good path forward and whatever seems to be in that path is reasonable to articulate
adammaj:是啊哈哈,我也不认为这在那些群体中一定是极具争议的话题。通常来说,实验室的主要优化函数就是寻找一条良好的前进道路,而任何看似属于那条道路的内容,合理地阐述出来都是可接受的。
Aidan Clark
Aidan Clark (OpenAI): AI is progressing very fast.
Aidan Clark (OpenAI):人工智能的发展速度非常快。
We must grapple with the reality that modern LLMs can solve problems that large masses of extremely devoted and intelligent humans were unable to solve, and the implications this has on our society. This is the dawn of a new era.
我们必须正视这样一个现实:现代大语言模型能够解决那些大量极其投入且聪明的人类无法解决的问题,以及这对我们社会产生的影响。这是一个新时代的黎明。
For the first time I am asking myself if things are moving too fast. I’m honestly not sure, but I am sure that it would be good for us to have an answer to “what would a successful pace look like?”. I am hoping in the coming weeks and months a clear proposal is painted.
我第一次开始问自己,事情是否发展得太快了。老实说我不确定,但我确信,如果我们能回答“成功的节奏是什么样的”,那将对我们有益。我希望在未来几周和几个月内,能有一个清晰的提案被提出。
Mo Bavarian
Mo Bavarian (OpenAI): agree with Aidan.
Mo Bavarian(OpenAI):同意 Aidan 的观点。
I think all AI researchers, engineers, and stakeholders should ask themselves this right now & start acting more responsibly. Being first isn’t worth anything, it’s worth negative, if you cause a catastrophe or set the world on a path that others are more likely to cause a catastrophe. We should keep reminding ourselves of the bigger picture and every step of the way ask ourselves if the action we are taking rn is toward winning or human flourishing. And immediately stop, if it’s against the latter.
我认为所有的 AI 研究人员、工程师和利益相关者现在都应该自问这个问题,并开始更负责任地行动。成为第一毫无价值,如果导致灾难或将世界引向其他人更可能引发灾难的道路,其价值甚至是负的。我们应该不断提醒自己关注大局,并在每一步都问自己,我们现在采取的行动是通向胜利还是人类繁荣。如果是后者,立即停止。
Marcus Williams: 70% [chance of human extinction] in the next 3 years if there isn’t regulation/slowdown although i think regulation/slowdown is very possible
Marcus Williams:如果没有监管/放缓,未来 3 年内人类灭绝的可能性为 70%,尽管我认为监管/放缓是非常可能的
Jason Wolfe (OpenAI): I don’t know what my probabilities are on literal extinction, but I think there are a number of ways AI could go poorly for humanity, and at the current frankly terrifying pace humanity will be quite lucky if we manage to find and stay on the narrow path between all the bad outcomes.
Jason Wolfe(OpenAI):我不知道我对字面意义上灭绝的概率评估是多少,但我认为 AI 对人类造成糟糕后果的方式有很多,而且以目前坦白说令人恐惧的速度,如果我们能找到并保持在所有糟糕结果之间的狭窄路径上,人类将会非常幸运。
I am heartened by the many costly actions OpenAI has taken recently (detailed in several recent posts), but regardless of what you think of OpenAI, this is not a problem that can be solved by any one company (or country) in isolation. We need coordination to be able to approach future capability increases with an appropriate degree of caution and humility, and we need it yesterday.
OpenAI 最近采取的许多代价高昂的行动(在最近的几篇文章中有详细说明)让我感到振奋,但无论你对 OpenAI 作何评价,这都不是任何一家公司(或国家)孤立就能解决的问题。我们需要协调合作,以便以适当的谨慎和谦逊态度应对未来的能力提升,而且我们需要立刻这样做。
Julie Steele (OpenAI): I work at OpenAI. In my personal capacity, I also think we need to slow down.
Julie Steele(OpenAI):我在 OpenAI 工作。以我个人身份,我也认为我们需要放慢速度。
It is telling that, in response to this simple statement, Julie has faced credential attacks and age-based attacks.
值得注意的是,针对这一简单声明,Julie 遭到了对其资历的攻击和基于年龄的攻击。
Boaz Barak
Boaz Barak (OpenAI): Julie is amazing and her position on slowing down is consistent with our chief scientist’s essay. I also think some pacing is likely to be necessary. (Speaking personally and not in my capacity as a janitor.)
Boaz Barak(OpenAI):Julie 非常出色,她关于放慢速度的立场与我们的首席科学家的文章一致。我也认为可能需要某种程度的节奏控制。(个人发言,不代表我作为保洁员的身份。)
Boaz Barak is not a janitor.
Boaz Barak 不是保洁员。
He is a relative optimist:
他是一个相对乐观主义者:
Boaz Barak (OpenAI): There are very good and serious people in Anthropic and across the industry, and I hope we can coordinate on the things that matter. I personally do not think AI will kill all humans, but there are multiple bad trajectories that we can end up in if we do not prioritize safety.
Boaz Barak(OpenAI):Anthropic 以及整个行业都有非常优秀且严肃的人,我希望我们能在重要的事情上协调合作。我个人并不认为 AI 会杀死所有人类,但如果我们不优先考虑安全,我们可能会陷入多种不良的发展轨迹中。
Micah Carroll
Micah Carroll (RSI Preparedness, OpenAI): This is not a setup or some political psyop. I had many lunches and dinners with Jacob at OpenAI in which we talked about AI existential risks in similar terms.
Micah Carroll(RSI Preparedness,OpenAI):这不是某种预设陷阱或政治心理战。我在 OpenAI 期间与 Jacob 共进过多次午餐和晚餐,我们在这些场合以类似的措辞讨论了 AI 的生存风险。
It’s a cross-partisan position within misalignment teams across all frontier AI companies that business-as-usual AI development poses unacceptable catastrophic risk.
在各大前沿 AI 公司的不对齐团队中,存在一种跨党派的观点,即按部就班地开发 AI 会带来不可接受的灾难性风险。
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