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Anthropic拟9月IPO,投行称将吸走市场流动性

Anthropic’s Mega-IPO Plan Looms Over Packed US Listing Calendar

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Anthropic作为AI巨头IPO是近期市场焦点,直接影响美股流动性分配与排队企业节奏;Shein估值逻辑变化也具参考性。建议关注9-10月美股IPO日历及资金分流情况。

Still thinking September October. But if you just understand how IPO's work for the company to price and debut in September, it needs to publicly be on file by the Tuesday after Labor Day. So that's like kind of a best case scenario. If we believe our understanding when we talk to bankers and people around this deal to be true. They still haven't finalized their revolving credit facility. That's a big step, bringing the other banks outside of the big four that we've broken a lot of news around under the tent is a big step.

仍在考虑九月或十月。但如果你了解公司如何在九月定价并上市,它需要在劳动节后的周二之前公开备案。所以这算是某种最佳情况。如果我们相信与银行家和围绕这笔交易的人士交谈时的理解是正确的。他们尚未最终确定循环信贷额度。这是一个重大步骤,将四大行以外的其他银行纳入麾下,这也是一个重大步骤。

And they also have to have an analyst day so the analysts can model out what they're expecting with anthropic. When you know you're a Goldman Sachs, if you call up your sales desk and say, hey, I want to talk to the analyst, he has to have a model to be able to share. So if you put all of those kind of pieces into formation, you look at and say, the fastest probably is Thursday or Friday. But in reality, they've been kind of dragging their heels with piecing together this revolving credit facility.

他们还必须举办分析师日,以便分析师对 Anthropic 的预期进行建模。当你是一家高盛时,如果你打电话给销售台说,嘿,我想和分析师谈谈,他必须有一个模型才能分享。所以如果你把所有这些部分都安排妥当,你会看到并说,最快可能是周四或周五。但实际上,他们在拼凑这个循环信贷额度方面一直在拖延。

But once that takes place, it should move pretty darn quickly. Is is there going to be a crowding out effect for other deals, do you think? I mean, the question? I mean, it's going to take all the oxygen and including a lot of the dollars out of the marketplace. Huh? How's the street kind of thinking about this? Because presumably after Labor Day, there's a lot of companies will want to go public. Yeah, no. And we've already seen a few that have flipped publicly.

但一旦完成,应该会进展得非常快。你认为这会对其他交易产生挤出效应吗?我的意思是,问题在于?我的意思是,它会吸走市场上的所有氧气,包括很多美元。嗯?市场对此有何看法?因为 presumably 在劳动节之后,会有很多公司希望上市。是的,没错。而且我们已经看到一些已经公开翻盘了。

So smaller, lesser known deals, a Greco cobalt power. Obviously they're both private equity. They're both kind of playing the eye angle. But the big thing is, if you're trying to schedule a meeting with along only, or if you're trying to schedule a meeting with the sovereign wealth fund, these aren't huge teams. They're not the millennium IPO pods that are really playing all of these deals. So I've talked to some sponsors, I've talked to some bankers.

所以较小、不太知名的交易,比如 Greco Cobalt Power。显然它们都是私募股权。它们都在玩 AI 的角度。但关键是,如果你试图安排与 Along Only 的会议,或者你试图安排与主权财富基金的会议,这些团队都不大。它们不是真正参与所有这些交易的 Millennium IPO 小组。所以我和一些发起人谈过,我和一些银行家谈过。

And that's kind of been consternation when you look at space, which we saw back in June. We crunched the numbers, the 14 notable deals to go public in the month before space. So kind of racing to hit that pre space. Window weighted average loss is almost 10% from the offer price. You're supposed to buy IPOs to make money not lose money. So when you look at the calendar we have seen companies flip public. We expect some to flip public this week.

当你观察空间时,这引起了一些担忧,我们在六月看到了这一点。我们计算了数字,在 Space 之前的一个月里有 14 笔值得注意的交易要上市。所以基本上是在赶在 Space 前的窗口期。加权平均亏损几乎达到发行价的 10%。你应该买 IPO 来赚钱而不是亏钱。所以当你看日历时,我们看到公司已经公开翻盘。我们预计本周会有一些公司公开翻盘。

That should open the opportunity to beat anthropic out the door. But you don't want to be on the road. At the same time. You don't want to be calling Wellington, asking for them to take time to talk to your company if Dario is trying to make a visit. Yeah. Um, don't be like, uh, we'll get back to you. Exactly. Um, let's talk about another company, which, um, a couple years ago was a big, big deal for young people. And, um, kind of like fast fashion.

这应该为将 Anthropic 拒之门外创造了机会。但你不想在路上奔波。与此同时,你也不想打电话给惠灵顿(Wellington),请求他们抽出时间与你公司交谈,如果达里奥(Dario)正试图进行访问的话。是的。嗯,不要像那样说,呃,我们会再联系你。没错。嗯,让我们谈谈另一家公司,这家公司在几年前对年轻人来说是一件大事。而且,有点像快时尚。

Uh, she had global holdings. The shares fell as much as 14% in Hong Kong. Framework or trading this before the stock makes its debut in Hong Kong. Right. It will make its debut tomorrow. And again, this is a company that sold almost $2 billion worth of shares in the IPO market. That's 26 billion you mentioned just a few years ago, 2022. They raise a private round around $100 billion. So that is a huge drop off when you talk to investors who met with the company.

呃,它拥有全球持股。其股价在香港最多下跌了 14%。在股票于香港首次公开募股(IPO)之前交易框架或进行交易。对。它将于明天上市。同样,这是一家在 IPO 市场售出近 20 亿美元股票的上市公司。正如你刚才提到的,那是 260 亿。就在几年前,2022 年,它们在一个私募轮次中筹集了约 1000 亿美元。所以当你与见过该公司的投资者交谈时,这是一个巨大的落差。

The critique is I'm paying a similar multiple for a Zara or an H&M that I'm paying for a company that hasn't seen growth, that has a lot of political uncertainty and a lot of headwinds. They tried there were reports that they wanted to go public in the US, then London. Now they're listing in Hong Kong. There's just so much uncertainty around the company. And again, it'll be interesting to see when we see that formal trading.

批评意见是,我为 Zara 或 H&M 支付的估值倍数与我为一家人增长停滞、存在大量政治不确定性和诸多逆风的公司支付的倍数相似。他们曾尝试过,有报道称他们希望在美国上市,然后是伦敦。现在他们要在香港上市。围绕该公司存在太多不确定性。同样,当我们看到正式交易时,将会很有趣。

But we've been really using over the last few weeks and months this grey market to better inform what's going to happen actually on exchange. And even if you just go 1 to 1 or even half, 2 to 1, you're still saying this is going to be something that trades down pretty sharply. So just real quick, 30s are we expecting a flood of deals to be filed or hit the road in the next several weeks? Definitely. We expect, uh, potentially a couple this week.

但在过去几周和几个月里,我们一直在利用灰色市场来更好地了解交易所上实际会发生的情况。即使你只是按 1:1 甚至 2:1 的比例折算,你仍然会说这将是一个价格会大幅下跌的东西。所以快速问一下,在接下来的几周内,我们是否预计会有大量交易被提交或上路?肯定会的。我们预计,呃,本周可能会有几笔。

And then I think after Labor Day, you'll see people back in the seats, you'll see filings being flipped public. You'll see companies starting those formal roadshows. And we should expect a pretty darn packed September into October. Again, though, we do have a live September meeting for the fed. So that has a bit of, uh, concern for some of these bankers. And then obviously all eyes will shortly after, uh, pivot to the election and the midterms and what that does or doesn't mean for risk.

然后我认为在劳动节之后,你会看到人们回到座位上,你会看到文件被翻公开。你会看到公司开始那些正式的路演。我们应该预期九月到十月会非常繁忙。不过,我们确实有一个九月的美联储会议。所以这让一些银行家有些担忧。然后显然,不久之后所有人的目光都会转向选举和中期选举,以及这对风险意味着什么或不意味着什么。

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