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美伊谈判遇阻:副总统取消瑞士行程,以黎冲突再起

Meet the Press NOW — June 19

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>> WELCOME TO MEET THE PRESS >> WELCOME TO MEET THE PRESS NOW. I'M MELANIE ZANONA IN NOW. I'M MELANIE ZANONA IN WASHINGTON, AND WE BEGIN WITH WASHINGTON, AND WE BEGIN WITH THE DEAL BETWEENEN THE U.S. AND THE DEAL BETWEEN THE U.S. AND IRAN ALREADY HITTING A IRAN ALREADY HITTING A ROADBLOCK. THE NEXT ROUND OF ROADBLOCK. THE NEXT ROUND OF NEGOTIATIONS WAS SUPPOSED TO NEGOTIATIONS WAS SUPPOSED TO ALREADY BE UNDERWAY, B BUT IS NW ALREADY BE UNDERWAY, BUT IS NOW ON HOLD OVERNIGHT. VICE ON HOLD OVERNIGHT. VICE PRESIDENT VANCE ABRUPTLY PRESIDENT VANCE ABRUPTLY CANCELED PLANS TO GO TO CANCELED PLANS TO GO TO SWITZERLAND TO MEEEET WITH SWITZERLAND TO MEET WITH IRANIAN LEADERS.S. A WHITE HOUSE IRANIAN LEADERS. A WHITE HOUSE SPOKESPERSON, CITING SPOKESPERSON, CITING COMPLICATED LOGISTICS AND COMPLICATED LOGISTICS AND SAYING, QUOTE, WE LOOK FORWARD SAYING, QUOTE, WE LOOK FORWARD TO BEGINNING TECHNICAL TALKS AS TO BEGINNING TECHNICAL TALKS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. TODAY'S TALKS SOON AS POSSIBLE. TODAY'S TALKS WERE DERAILED AFTER ISRAEL WERE DERAILED AFTER ISRAEL LAUNCHED A MAJOR ASSAULT ON LAUNCHED A MAJOR ASSAULT ON HEZBOLLAH IN SOUTHERN LEBANON. HEZBOLLAH IN SOUTHERN LEBANON. PRIME MINISTER NETANYAHU PRIME MINISTER NETANYAHU CLAIMING THOSE STRIKES CLAIMING THOSE STRIKES ELIMINATED DOZENS OF TERRORIRIS. ELIMINATED DOZENS OF TERRORISTS. THE ONGOING CONFLICT BETWEEN THE ONGOING CONFLICT BETWEEN ISRAEL AND IRAN'S PROXY ISRAEL AND IRAN'S PROXY HEZBOLLAH IN LEBANON HAS BEEN A HEZBOLLAH IN LEBANON HAS BEEN A KEY STICKING POINT IN THE KEY STICKING POINT IN THE NEGOTIATIONS WITH IRAN. ISRAEL NEGOTIATIONS WITH IRAN. ISRAEL WAS NOT A PART OF THE DEAL. BUT WAS NOT A PART OF THE DEAL. BUT THE FIRST POINT OF THE THE FIRST POINT OF THE MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING IS MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING IS THE END OF MILITARY OPERATIONS THE END OF MILITARY OPERATIONS ON ALL FRONTS, INCLUDING IN ON ALL FRONTS, INCLUDING IN LEBANON. PRESIDENT TRUMP LEBANON. PRESIDENT TRUMP TELLING NBC'S GABE GUTIERREZ IN TELLING NBC'S GABE GUTIERREZ IN A PHONE CALL THIS AFTERNOON A PHONE CALL THIS AFTERNOON THAT HE SPOKE WITH ISRAEL THAT HE SPOKE WITH ISRAEL EARLIER TODAY AND ASKED THEM TO EARLIER TODAY AND ASKED THEM TO AGREE TO A CEASE FIRE WITH AGREE TO A CEASE FIRE WITH HEZBOLLAH. BOTH SIDES HAVE NOW HEZBOLLAH. BOTH SIDES HAVE NOW AGREED TO A RENEWED CEASE FIRE. AGREED TO A RENEWED CEASE FIRE. BUT ACCORDING TO A SOURCE WITH BUT ACCORDING TO A SOURCE WITH KNOWLEDGE OF THE INTELLIGENCE KNOWLEDGE OF THE INTELLIGENCE ASSESSMENTS, U.S. SPY AGENCIES ASSESSMENTS, U.S. SPY AGENCIES BELIEVE ISRAEL WILL LIKELY BELIEVE ISRAEL WILL LIKELY CONTINUE TO LAUNCH ATTACKS ON CONTINUE TO LAUNCH ATTACKS ON HEZBOLLAH IN LEBANON, HEZBOLLAH IN LEBANON, POTENTIALLY JEOPARDIZING THE POTENTIALLY JEOPARDIZING THE DEAL. MEANWHILE, IN A NEW DEAL. MEANWHILE, IN A NEW INTERVIEW WITH AXIOS, PRESIDENT INTERVIEW WITH AXIOS, PRESIDENT TRUMP WAS ASKED WHAT HE LEARNED TRUMP WAS ASKED WHAT HE LEARNED ABOUT THE LIMITS O OF HIS POWER ABOUT THE LIMITS OF HIS POWER DURING THIS WAR WITHTH IRAN. DURING THIS WAR WITH IRAN. HERE'S WHAT HE SAID. HERE'S WHAT HE SAID. >> WHAT HAVE YOU LEARNED ABOUT >> WHAT HAVE YOU LEARNED ABOUT NOT JUST THE EXERCISE E OF POWE, NOT JUST THE EXERCISE OF POWER, BUT THE LIMITS ON YOYOUR POWER S BUT THE LIMITS ON YOUR POWER AS A RESULT OF THE CONFLICT?

A RESULT OF THE CONFLICT? >> THERE ARE NO LIMITS. NO >> THERE ARE NO LIMITS. NO LIMITS? NO, NOT I HAVEN'T LIMITS? NO, NOT I HAVEN'T LEARNED THAT LESSON YET. I KNOW LEARNED THAT LESSON YET. I KNOW THERE ARE, BUT YOU KNOW THERE THERE ARE, BUT YOU KNOW THERE ARE NO LIMITS. WE DEFEATED THEM ARE NO LIMITS. WE DEFEATED THEM TOTALLY MILITARILY. TOTALLY MILITARILY. >> HOWEVER, BEGINNING OF >> HOWEVER, BEGINNING OF CONFLICT YOU HAD TALKEKED ABOUT, CONFLICT YOU HAD TALKED ABOUT, YOU ONLY WANTED UNCONDITIONAL YOU ONLY WANTED UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER. AND. SURRENDER. AND. >> WELL. >> WELL.L. >> THE MOU DOESN'T LOOK LIKE >> THE MOU DOESN'T LOOK LIKE UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER. UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER. >> WELL, IT REALLY PROBABLBLY IS >> WELL, IT REALLY PROBABLY IS UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER. YES, I UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER. YES, I THINK SO. THINK SO. >> THE AGREEMENT DOES NOT >> THE AGREEMENT DOES NOT EXPLICITLY REQUIRE IRAN'S EXPLICITLY REQUIRE IRAN'S UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER, BUT IT UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER, BUT IT DOES REQUIRE IRAN TO ENSURE DOES REQUIRE IRAN TO ENSURE PASSAGE THROUGH THE STRAIT OF PASSAGE THROUGH THE STRAIT OF HORMUZ FOR 60 DAYS I IN EXCHANGE HORMUZ FOR 60 DAYS IN EXCHANGE FOR IMMEDIATE SANCTIONS RELIEF FOR IMMEDIATE SANCTIONS RELIEF AND EVENTUAL ACCESS TO BILLIONS AND EVENTUAL ACCESS TO BILLIONS IN FROZEN ASSETS. IRAN ALSO IN FROZEN ASSETS. IRAN ALSO AGREES IT WILL NOT PROCURE A AGREES IT WILL NOT PROCURE A NUCLEAR WEAPON, A COMMITMENT NUCLEAR WEAPON, A COMMITMENT THEY'VE REPEATEDLY MADE, THEY'VE REPEATEDLY MADE, INCLUDING DURING THE 2015 INCLUDING DURING THE 2015 NEGOTIATIONS THAT RESULTED IN NEGOTIATIONS THAT RESULTED IN PRESIDENT OBAMA'S IRAN NUCLEAR PRESIDENT OBAMA'S IRAN NUCLEAR DEAL. THE FORMER PRESIDENT DEAL. THE FORMER PRESIDENT SITTING DOWN WITH NBC'S CRAIG SITTING DOWN WITH NBC'S CRAIG MELVIN IN A NEW INTERVIEW AND MELVIN IN A NEW INTERVIEW AND OFFERING HIS ASSESSMENT OF THE OFFERING HIS ASSESSMENT OF THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION'S TRUMP ADMINISTRATION'S AGREEMENT. AGREEMENT. >> WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF WHAT WE >> WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT THE DEAL SO FAR?

KNOW ABOUT THE DEAL SO FAR? >> I AM VERY HAPPY TO SEE A >> I AM VERY HAPPY TO SEE A CEASE FIRE, AND I'M HOPEFUL CEASE FIRE, AND I'M HOPEFUL THAT IT HOLDS. WE'VE NOWOW FOUGT THAT IT HOLDS. WE'VE NOW FOUGHT A WAR, SPENT BILLIONS AND A WAR, SPENT BILLIONS AND BILLIONS OF DOLLARS, YOU KNOW, BILLIONS OF DOLLARS, YOU KNOW, PUT ENORMOUS STRAIN ON OUR PUT ENORMOUS STRAIN ON OUR MILITARY. A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE MILITARY. A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE DIED. AND IT FEELS LIKE WE'RE DIED. AND IT FEELS LIKE WE'RE BACK WHERE WE WERE BEFORE WE BACK WHERE WE WERE BEFORE WE STARTED THE WAR, EXCEPT MAYBE A STARTED THE WAR, EXCEPT MAYBE A LITTLE BIT WORSE OFF. LITTLE BIT WORSE OFF. >> JOINING ME NOW IS NBC NEWS >> JOINING ME NOW IS NBC NEWS SENIOR WHITE HOUSE SENIOR WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT GABE GUTIERREZ CORRESPONDENT GABE GUTIERREZ AND NBC NEWS INTERNATIONAL AND NBC NEWS INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT MATT BRADLEY IS CORRESPONDENT MATT BRADLEY IS IN TEL AVIV. THANK YOU B BOTH SO IN TEL AVIV. THANK YOU BOTH SO MUCH FOR JOINING GABE. I WANT MUCH FOR JOINING GABE. I WANT TO START WITH YOU. WHAT DO WE TO START WITH YOU. WHAT DO WE KNOW ABOUT WHY THE VICE KNOW ABOUT WHY THE VICE PRESIDENT'S TRIP WAS CANCELED?

PRESIDENT'S TRIP WAS CANCELED? AND IS IT ALREADY SPELLING BAD AND IS IT ALREADY SPELLING BAD NEWS FOR THIS AGREEMENT? NEWS FOR THIS AGREEMENT?>> HEY THERE, MEL. WELL, YOU >> HEY THERE, MEL. WELL, YOU LAID IT OUT IN YOUR LAID IT OUT IN YOUR INTRODUCTION, THE WHITE E HOUSE INTRODUCTION, THE WHITE HOUSE SAYING T THAT THIS WAS DUE TO SAYING THAT THIS WAS DUEUE TO LOGISTICAL CONSIDERATIONS. BUT LOGISTICAL C CONSIDERATIONS. BUT LOOK, THERE WERE THERE WAS A LOOK, THERE WERE THERE WAS A LOT THAT WAS ABRUPT ABOUT THIS. LOT THAT WAS ABRUPT ABOUT THIS. THE VICE PRESIDENT WAS EXPECTED THE VICE PRESIDENT WAS EXPECTED TO HEAD THERE ON FRIDAY. AND TO HEAD THERE ON FRIDAY. AND ALL OF A SUDDEN, PLANS C CHANGE. ALL OF A SUDDEN, PLANS CHANGE. AND WE LEARNED A LITTLE BIT AND WE LEARNED A LITTLE BIT MORE OVERNIGHT WHEN WE SAWAW THT MORE OVERNIGHT WHEN WE SAW THAT THOSE ATTACKS THAT CONTINUED THOSE ATTACKS THAT CONTINUED FIGHTING BETWEEN ISRAEL AND FIGHTING BETWEEN ISRAEL AND HEZBOLLAH, NOW ISRAEL IS HEZBOLLAH, NOW ISRAEL IS MAINTAINING THAT IT ONLY FIRED MAINTAINING THAT IT ONLY FIRED ON HEZBOLLAH BECAUSE THE IRAN ON HEZBOLLAH BECAUSE THE IRAN BACKED MILITANT GROUP KILLED BACKED MILITANT GROUP KILLED THREE ISRAELI, EXCUSE ME, FOUR THREE ISRAELI, EXCUSE ME, FOUR ISRAELI SOLDIERS, BUT THIS WAS ISRAELI SOLDIERS, BUT THIS WAS VIEWED AS A VIOLATION OF THE VIEWED A

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