Anthropic拟IPO募资640亿美元,目标估值1.4万亿美元
Anthropic Targets $1.4 Trillion Valuation in Blockbuster IPO | Bloomberg Intelligence
Anthropic作为AI核心标的启动IPO,1.4万亿估值与巨头联合私募是市场焦点,关注其定价节奏与零售份额分配。
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Listen on demand wherever you get your podcasts or watch us live on YouTube. [music] Of course, we also are waiting for more details on Anthropic. We have gotten some because uh the company, the AI Frontier Lab, is holding its investor road show right now. And Bailey Lip Schultz is our go-to guy for all things on IPOs. He's in our Bloomberg Interactive Broker studio in New York City. And Bailey, there was some snafu with paperwork that, you know, added some last minute drama.
在您获取播客的任意平台按需收听,或在YouTube上观看我们的直播。【音乐】当然,我们也在等待Anthropic的更多细节。我们已经获得了一些信息,因为人工智能前沿实验室(AI Frontier Lab)公司目前正在举行投资者路演。Bailey Lip Schultz是我们处理所有IPO相关事务的首选专家。他位于纽约市的彭博互动经纪演播室。Bailey,文件方面出现了一些小插曲,你知道的,这给最后时刻增添了一些戏剧性。
Well, it was a little confusing, Scarlet. So basically the TLDDR if you were asleep or watching Monday Night Football yesterday was there was a report from Reuters about a filing that was sent around our understanding and and some of our competitors reporting that there was an an incorrect S1 filing sent around from an external firm working on the deal. That was a little bit weird because it caused a lot of headlines, but it really if you kind of subtract the fact that it was reporting on not too weird.
嗯,有点让人困惑,Scarlet。所以基本上,TLDDR(太长不看版):如果你昨天睡着了或者在看周一晚间橄榄球赛,路透社曾报道过一份文件,据我们所知,以及我们的一些竞争对手报道,有一家参与该交易的外部公司发送了一份错误的S-1表格。这有点奇怪,因为它引发了大量头条新闻,但如果你剔除它被报道这一事实,其实也没什么好奇怪的。
It wasn't like there was something submitted to the SEC that was wrong. It was just reporting and kind of uh the spread across social media and other outlets yesterday evening, late last night really throughout this morning. And then that was all kind of put to rest when the company began marketing this deal this morning at about 6:30 a.m. New York time.
并不是有什么东西提交给美国证券交易委员会(SEC)是错误的。这只是报道,以及昨晚深夜到今早这段时间在社交媒体和其他渠道上的传播。然后,当该公司今天早上纽约时间6:30左右开始营销这笔交易时,这一切都平息了。
So talk to us about valuation, Bailey. What do we know uh in terms of what they're looking to raise here? What valuation? So they're looking to sell in the IPO primary and secondary share sales up to $64 billion. On top of that though is a $26 billion private placement participating that AMD, Broadcom, Google, Micron, Microsoft, Nvidia, Taiwan Semi, pretty much a who's who of circular financing concerns participating in that uh private placement. uh at the top of that range when you include things like equity stock options for employees, restricted shares, stock reserve for the company's donation program, fully diluted valuation targeting at the top and $1.4 trillion, which is below the $2 trillion number that had been circulating about a month ago, but above where we were hearing folks on the buy side were trying to push the company to last week when they were targeting maybe as low as 1.1 1.2 trillion dollars.
那么请跟我们谈谈估值,贝利。我们知道他们打算在这里筹集多少资金?估值是多少?他们计划在IPO的一级和二级市场销售股票,总额高达640亿美元。此外,还有260亿美元的私募配售参与,AMD、博通、谷歌、美光、微软、英伟达、台积电等几乎涵盖了所有值得关注的循环融资相关公司都参与了此次私募配售。在包含员工股权激励、限制性股票以及公司为捐赠计划预留的股票储备等完全稀释因素后,目标估值上限为1.4万亿美元,低于一个月前流传的2万亿美元数字,但高于上周买方试图将该公司压低至1.1至1.2万亿美元的水平。
So, a lot unfolding again in a market backdrop where over the last 12 months, Nvidia's down 25%, Alphabet's down 17, and Meta's down 10%.
因此,在一个市场背景下,许多事情再次展开:在过去12个月里,英伟达下跌了25%,Alphabet下跌了17%,Meta下跌了10%。
And Bailey, just remind us of all the things that we need to watch out for in order for this IPO to go off without a hitch. What kind of timeline are we looking at here? If all goes according to plan, when is the likely pricing date and when's the likely listing date? As far as we know, they will be on the road starting this morning, Tuesday through Wednesday of next week postmarket. The deal should be priced by its bankers in the company Wednesday evening here in New York.
贝利,请提醒我们为了确保这次IPO顺利进行需要注意哪些事项。我们面临的时间表是怎样的?如果一切按计划进行,预计定价日期和上市日期分别是什么时候?据我们所知,他们将从今天开始路演,持续到下周二至周三盘后。交易应由其银行家在纽约时间周三晚上完成定价。
And the first trading day will be next Thursday. Uh again, similar to SpaceX, you can kind of expect this to be a deal that there's a pricing announce Wednesday night, but the stock doesn't open until late late morning, early afternoon on Thursday, and that'll be the first trading day for Antropic.
首次交易日将是下周四。同样类似于SpaceX的情况,可以预期的是,定价将在周三晚上公布,但股票要到周四上午晚些时候或下午早些时候才会开盘,这将是Anthropic的首个交易日。
So, do we know how much of this is going to retail investors? cuz I would think there'd be a lot of demand there. We had reported that 15 to 20% was expected. When you think back to SpaceX, similarly 20% was the top range. I think it ended up shaking out about 15 to 16%. So still quite a large sum being sold or marketed to retail. But Paul, the one thing you got to remember is it's interesting or going to be interesting how they kind of quantify retail.
那么,我们知道有多少份额是面向散户投资者的吗?因为我认为那里会有大量需求。我们曾报道过预计有15%到20%的份额面向散户。回想一下SpaceX的情况,类似地,最高范围也是20%,最终实际分配约为15%到16%。因此,仍有相当大的一部分被出售或营销给散户。但是保罗,你需要记住的一点是,如何量化散户投资者将会很有趣或者令人感兴趣。
You can still lump in high net worth individuals as retail clients. So think about the people who have accounts at JP Morgan that are individuals who manage their own investments. They do fit into the retail crowd alongside the folks buying Ant on Robin Hood. So a lot of money to go around. One thing that we did see back when Antropic went public was a global push for retail investors and obviously a lot of excitement on day one when SpaceX went public and day two.
你仍然可以将高净值个人投资者归类为零售客户。所以想想那些在摩根大通(JP Morgan)拥有账户、自行管理投资的个人。他们与在 Robin Hood 上购买蚂蚁集团(Ant)股票的散户们一样,都属于零售群体。因此,可供分配的资金相当多。我们曾在 Anthropic 上市时看到过一种现象:全球范围内对零售投资者的推动,以及在 SpaceX 上市第一天和第二天出现的明显兴奋情绪。
So, it'll be interesting to see not only how they dole those shares out, but what really happens with the retail trading community across social media and kind of just in their trading accounts uh next Thursday and Friday.
因此,不仅要看他们如何分发这些股票,还要看社交媒体上的零售交易社区以及他们的交易账户在下周四和周五究竟会发生什么。
And just before we let you go, Bailey, um the company is going to hold a live stream event as well to kind of be able to speak directly to the public.
Bailey,在我们结束之前,该公司还将举办一场直播活动,以便能够直接与公众对话。
Yeah, they did this uh with SpaceX. It was Jamie Diamond interviewing Elon Musk. And it does seem like JP Morgan, according to Bloomberg reporting, they will have another live stream event uh this Friday with Jamie Diamond interviewing none other than Daario Modi. So, similar mood, similar kind of flavors, if you will, to what we saw with SpaceX, trying again to discuss the company's vision and trying to really, at least from the JPM perspective, according to our reporting and our understanding, trying to make this an offering that can cater to their retail clients and retail clients writ large.
是的,他们在 SpaceX 时就做过类似的事情,由杰米·戴蒙(Jamie Diamond)采访埃隆·马斯克(Elon Musk)。据彭博社报道,摩根大通似乎将在本周五再次举办一场直播活动,由杰米·戴蒙亲自采访达里奥·梅迪(Daario Modi)。这与我们在 SpaceX 事件中看到的氛围和风格相似,旨在再次讨论公司的愿景,并试图从摩根大通的角度出发——根据我们的报道和理解——打造一款能够满足其零售客户乃至更广泛零售客户群体的产品。
Again, when you think about historically IPOs marketed to a who's who of investors, a lot of closed door meetings. Well, the pitch at least from the bank running this doing it on Friday like that. Stay with us. More from Bloomberg Intelligence coming up after this. [music]
回顾历史,面向投资者名流的 IPO 往往伴随着许多闭门会议。而至少由这家银行主导的此次周五发行,情况有所不同。请继续收看,稍后将有更多来自彭博智能(Bloomberg Intelligence)的内容。[音乐]
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Paul and I are downtown in the financial district uh at B Mutual. That's right. Fried eye as the kids say. Um we're going to check in with Sean McCarthy, the CEO and co-founder of Bam Mutual in just a moment, but we need to get an update on the latest with Nvidia. The stock down another 3.8% trading at about a seven-month low right now. Michael Shepard is our Bloomberg News senior technology editor. He joins us right now from Washington DC.
保罗和我现在位于金融区的 B Mutual 大楼 downtown。没错,用孩子们的话说就是“Fried eye”。稍后我们将连线 Bam Mutual 的首席执行官兼联合创始人肖恩·麦卡锡(Sean McCarthy),但在此之前,我们需要先更新英伟达(Nvidia)的最新动态。该股下跌 3.8%,目前交易价格处于七个月来的低点。彭博新闻社资深科技编辑迈克尔·谢泼德(Michael Shepard)现从华盛顿特区加入我们。
And Michael, what we've heard from President Trump is that the FBI is now looking into uh Jensen Hong's relationship with this alleged Chinese spy in addition to Nvidia opening up a probe into this yesterday. So just give us an update on what we know so far.
迈克尔,我们从特朗普总统那里听到的是,FBI 现在正在调查黄杰森(Jensen Hong)与这名据称的中国间谍的关系,此外英伟达(Nvidia)昨天也对此展开了内部调查。所以请给我们一个更新,说说我们目前所知道的情况。
Well, you know, the Trump uh news conference yesterday did shed some light on the administration's view toward Jensen Wong. Right now, the president offered his unvarnished support, calling Jensen Wong an honorable man despite the allegations that came out and the admission by Jensen Wong of an extrammarital affair. Uh, but the president did say also that the FBI was looking into the matter. He didn't elaborate on the nature of the probe, exactly which direction it was going, and if it was focused on the relationship itself.
嗯,你知道的,特朗普昨天的新闻发布会确实阐明了一些政府对黄杰森(Jensen Wong)的看法。目前,总统表示了他毫无保留的支持,称黄杰森是一个正直的人,尽管出现了相关指控,而且黄杰森自己也承认了婚外情。但是,总统也确实表示 FBI 正在调查此事。他没有详细说明调查的性质、具体方向,以及是否专注于关系本身。
Uh, we contacted the FBI. They have not returned our request for comment. Uh so we are still reporting out exactly what the government is doing in terms of an inquiry. There have been investigations underway though Scarlet as we already know into the company where uh Jensen Wong's power more were. This is Mega Speed International. It had been the focus of commerce department inquiries into whether it had violated export controls and diverted some of the Nvidia chips it had purchased to China in violation of US rules.
呃,我们联系了 FBI,他们尚未回复我们的评论请求。所以我们仍在报道政府在进行调查方面的确切情况。不过,正如我们已经知道的,针对该公司——即黄杰森权力所在的公司——Mega Speed International(美速国际),调查一直在进行。该公司一直是商务部调查的重点,调查其是否违反了出口管制规定,并将部分购买的英伟达芯片违规转运至中国。
So that is something we're going to be tracking and trying to figure out whether that probe is expanding or accelerating and including whether the US is also going to take further steps when it comes to export controls too.
所以这是我们要跟踪并试图弄清楚的事情,看这项调查是否在扩大或加速,以及美国在出口管制方面是否也将采取进一步措施。
Michael, what have we heard if anything from the company itself, specifically the board of directors? Well, the board
迈克尔,如果有的话,我们从公司本身,特别是董事会那里听到了什么?嗯,董事会
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