Robinhood拟为Anthropic等IPO争取散户分配
Robinhood in ‘Food Fight’ for Anthropic IPO Retail Allocation
Robinhood明确表态参与Anthropic等重磅IPO的零售份额争取,其策略(以数据换额度)对关注美股打新及散户权益的投资者是重要的市场机制参考。
Good to have you here with us. Gotta start though. Um, so many things going on, and we'll get to maybe the elections and the regulatory framework coming out. Everybody. But let's start with the mega IPO environment. All of them coming at us. Anthropic OpenAI some others. How Robinhood will be involved either in making sure their retail customers get access or in some other way. So I'd love to know how you guys are looking at that and how you are providing access for these, uh, really mega IPOs.
很高兴你能和我们在一起。不过我们得开始了。嗯,现在有很多事情在进行中,我们稍后会谈到选举以及即将出台的监管框架。大家可能都注意到了。但让我们先从大型IPO环境开始谈起。它们正一股脑地涌向我们:Anthropic、OpenAI以及其他一些公司。Robinhood将如何参与其中,无论是确保散户客户能够获得认购机会,还是以其他方式参与。所以我非常想了解你们如何看待这一情况,以及你们如何为这些超大型IPO提供接入服务。
Yeah. First, great. Thank you for having me. Uh, as you mentioned, you know, anthropic is coming. It's going to be a bellwether for the market. Uh, you may have seen they actually amended their S-1 recently that show that Robinhood will be on the deal. So we're very excited to help customers get access. You know, if I go back to space just six months ago was historic IPO. And now you have anthropic coming in futures.
是的。首先,非常感谢邀请我。正如你提到的,Anthropic即将上市,这将是市场的风向标。你可能已经看到,他们最近修改了S-1文件,显示Robinhood将参与此次发行。因此,我们非常兴奋能够帮助客户获得认购机会。回想六个月前SpaceX的IPO是历史性的,而现在Anthropic也即将到来。
And so for us, the main thing is retail customers should be allowed to participate. They should have a great experience. And that's what we've been building thus far. What does that look like in terms of like an allocation for these retail investors? How do you make sure that the retail investors who do want a piece of anthropic IPO, get a piece of it? Yeah, it's an incredible question. Uh, what we do is we bring the demand and then we send it to the company and the banks.
对我们来说,主要的一点是散户客户应该被允许参与,并且他们应该拥有良好的体验。这也是我们迄今为止一直在构建的内容。那么在分配方面,对于散户投资者来说具体是什么样的?如何确保那些确实想要认购Anthropic IPO份额的散户投资者能够分到份额?嗯,这是一个非常棒的问题。我们所做的是汇集需求,然后将其发送给公司和银行。
Ultimately, they decide what is what, uh, retail should be allocated for us. We just ask the tree as a first class citizen. So if you looked at space, they actually came out and said they wanted to do about 15 to 20% to retail. Uh, when we did our own IPO, we gave 20% to retail, which at the time was the highest in history. And so if we bring great demand and we show them the power of retail, that's how you going to get a good allocation.
最终,由他们决定我们应该分配给散户多少份额。我们只是要求将散户视为一等公民。例如,如果你回顾SpaceX的情况,他们实际上公开表示希望将约15%到20%的份额分配给散户。而在我们自己进行IPO时,我们将20%的份额分配给了散户,这在当时是历史上最高的比例。因此,如果我们带来强劲的需求并向他们展示散户的力量,这就是你获得良好分配的方式。
It is tough though. It's a food fight out there. So we're going to let our demand speak for itself and then let the companies decide for what they think is the problem. Is there a way you can gauge demand right now before the actual IPO happens? You have an understanding of what these retail investors, what the folks on the Robinhood platform want to see in terms of anthropic. So we're not allowed to directly start taking orders until they they start doing that.
不过情况确实很艰难。那里简直是一场混战。所以我们将让需求本身说话,然后让公司根据他们认为存在的问题做出决定。在正式IPO发生之前,有没有办法你可以衡量当前的需求?你对这些散户投资者——即Robinhood平台上的用户——在Anthropic方面希望看到什么内容有一定的了解。但在他们正式开始接受订单之前,我们不允许直接开始接收订单。
But what we do see is what our customers are doing right now. So I shared our earnings last week. We're seeing incredibly strong engagement. Customers are depositing more. They're trading more. Most metrics are up 50% year over year. So that's what we're sharing with with a lot of the banks and a lot of the companies that right now retail's engaged. They're techno optimists. They tend to believe in this economy. And so with that I think it goes really well.
但我们看到的是客户目前正在做什么。所以我上周分享了我们的财报。我们看到了非常强劲的用户参与度。客户存款更多,交易也更活跃。大多数指标同比上涨50%。因此,我们正在与许多银行以及目前零售业务参与度高的公司分享这些情况。他们对技术持乐观态度,倾向于相信这一经济前景。所以我认为这进展得非常顺利。
But we'll have to see when they actually open the audiobook up. Hey have you talked about allocation for something like the anthropic IPO or maybe some of the other mega? I like OpenAI coming up. What do you expect in terms of allocation? You talked about what you guys wanted to do when you IPO. Are you talking with anthropic? Are you getting any insight on what the allocation might be for those on the Robinhood platform?
但我们要等到他们实际开放有声书分配时才能看到结果。嘿,你们有没有讨论过像Anthropic IPO或其他一些大型IPO的分配问题?我喜欢OpenAI即将上市。你对分配有什么预期?你谈到了你们在IPO时想要做的事情。你们在和Anthropic沟通吗?你们是否获得了关于Robinhood平台上这些IPO可能分配情况的任何见解?
Yeah, so we're in the quiet period. So we can't share specifics. But what I'll tell you about five years ago when we built the platform, traditionally retail got 1 to 2% of an IPO. And if you got 5%, that was fantastic. Uh, now when we talk to companies, they say, hey, how big can I go? Can I go to five? Can I go to ten? Can I go to 20? Uh, and so that's becoming more of the normal conversation. If you look at the US equities market, about 20 to 25% is retail on any given day.
是的,我们现在处于静默期。所以我们不能分享具体细节。但我可以告诉你,五年前我们搭建平台时,传统上散户获得的IPO份额为1%到2%。如果你能获得5%,那已经是非常好的了。嗯,现在当我们与公司沟通时,他们会说:嘿,我能增加到多少?能增加到5%吗?能增加到10%吗?能增加到20%吗?嗯,这正逐渐成为更常见的对话内容。如果你查看美国股市,在任何给定的一天,散户占比约为20%到25%。
And so just using that bar that shows how powerful retail is. Each specific company and each individual bank will give their own recommendations. But for us but we're making sure the companies know is retail is here. They are forced to stay. And given their 20 to 25% of the equities market, they should consider a large allocation. So can I read into that that you think it might be more like 5% versus 1.21 to 2%? Uh, it's again, I can't share or give it in the quiet period.
因此,仅用这个指标就能显示散户的力量有多大。每家公司和每家银行都会给出自己的建议。但对我们来说,我们要确保公司知道散户就在这里,并且他们被迫留下来。鉴于散户占股市的20%到25%,他们应该考虑较大的分配比例。那我是否可以理解为,你认为分配比例可能会更像5%,而不是1.2%到2%?嗯,再说一次,在静默期内我不能分享或提供具体数字。
And so I want to be really careful on that. For us, we just think it's important that their tree is a first class citizen. And then ultimately, again, I've sat in the company's shoes. We've done our own IPO. But I do think retail is really powerful. And if you treat them well, they become long term supporters of the equity. Okay. I want to shift gears a little bit and talk. This is still has to do with AI, but it's about AI agents such as muse, for example.
因此,我想在这方面非常谨慎。对我们来说,我们认为重要的是他们的树(tree)应被视为一等公民。然后最终,再说一次,我设身处地站在公司的角度思考过。我们也进行过自己的IPO。但我确实认为散户非常强大。如果你善待他们,他们就会成为股票的长期支持者。好的。我想稍微转换一下话题来谈谈。这仍然与AI有关,但它是关于AI智能体,例如Muse。
One thing that we're all trying to figure out right now, and we're asking everybody these questions how do you want muse or other agents to interact with with your platform? What are you doing at Robinhood for a gigantic buying and selling of stocks, for example? Yeah. Great question. So for us we believe in access and selection. So our view is any of these different connectors, whether it's Muse or Crockpot or Instinct or the whole gamut that are coming out no dots and do it anthropic.
我们目前正在努力弄清楚的一件事,以及我们正在向所有人提出的问题是:你们希望 Muse 或其他智能体如何与你们的平台互动?例如,在 Robinhood 进行大规模的股票买卖时,你们在做什么?是的。好问题。对我们而言,我们信奉开放接入和选择自由。因此我们的观点是,无论这些不同的连接器是来自 Muse、Crockpot、Instinct,还是其他层出不穷的产品(包括 Anthropic),我们都支持。
We believe Robinhood should connect to their end. Customers have access through those tools. Um, what are we doing for our first party? So we did our own product launch a few a few months ago, and we announced Robinhood agents. You can go into the app, you can have an agent do trading for you. You can do research for you. We think that's great. But if customers also want to access to these third party connectors, fantastic.
我们相信 Robinhood 应该连接到他们的终端。客户可以通过这些工具获得访问权限。那么,我们在第一方产品方面做了什么?几个月前我们推出了自己的产品,并宣布了 Robinhood 智能体。你可以进入应用,让智能体为你进行交易,也可以让它为你进行研究。我们认为这很棒。但如果客户也希望访问这些第三方连接器,那也非常棒。
Again, we stand for access. And so I think some of the companies are being a little shortsighted when they say, hey, I don't want to connect to this app where I want everything go through mine. What we've shown is if you just build a great product and you let customers access whatever they want, Good things will happen. And so we're super excited. And we're already up in a lot of these different connector stores. And you should expect us to be available.
同样,我们坚持开放接入的理念。因此,我认为有些公司表现得有些短视,他们说:“嘿,我不想连接到这个应用,我希望所有流量都通过我的应用。”但我们已经证明,如果你只打造一款优秀的产品,并让客户自由访问他们想要的内容,好事自然会发生。所以我们非常兴奋,并且我们已经出现在许多不同的连接器商店中。大家应该预期我们会随时可用。
And the vast majority of them in the near term. How are the agents, whether it's outside agents or your own Robinhood agents, kind of increasing activity and volume, if you will. Uh, our engagement on the platform. I'm just curious how that actually turns into actions. Yeah. So it's really early right now, but the signals are positive. And so what we're seeing from customers is they love using it for things such as research and tools.
而且绝大多数将在短期内实现。那么,无论是外部智能体还是我们自己的 Robinhood 智能体,它们是如何增加活动量和交易量的呢?或者说,它们如何提升我们在平台上的用户参与度?我只是好奇这实际上如何转化为具体行动。是的。目前还非常早期,但信号是积极的。我们从客户那里看到的情况是,他们非常喜欢使用它来进行研究和工具操作。
That's the vast majority of it. So for example, a customer may say, I have a view on I stocks right now, or I have a view on chip stocks right now. Can you help me do screeners or scanners and go to that. Uh, you can also that allow it to trade for you. Now we make sure we build the guardrails in place. For example, your trading account is completely separate from your core account. So if I open my app right now, I have my investment account, my retirement account, my custodial account for my daughter.
这是绝大部分情况。例如,客户可能会说:“我现在对某只股票有看法,或者我对芯片股有看法。你能帮我做筛选器或扫描器并找到相关标的吗?”此外,你也可以让它为你执行交易。当然,我们会确保建立好护栏机制。例如,你的交易账户与核心账户是完全分离的。所以如果我此刻打开我的应用,我有我的投资账户、我的退休账户,以及为我女儿设立的托管账户。
Then I have my genetic account. The adjusting account is completely separate. And then if it wants to make a trade, You have to give it permission to do that. So if you've use Claude Code or Codex, it can take you so far. But at the end the customer has to take the intent. So that's what we're seeing from customers. They're actually asking for more. They want even more tooling. They want it to be more powerful. You know, we sure are earning that about 200,000 people have a generic account and about 250 million of assets thus far.
然后我有我的基因账户。调整账户是完全独立的。如果它想要进行交易,你必须授予它权限。所以如果你使用过 Claude Code 或 Codex,它们能带你走一段路。但最终客户必须掌握意图。这就是我们从客户那里看到的情况。他们实际上要求更多。他们希望拥有更多的工具。他们希望它更强大。你知道,我们确实因此获得了约20万人拥有通用账户,以及迄今为止约2.5亿资产的成绩。
So really nice early growth. But for us, we're just chiseling the product and making it better and better. But we think this could be pretty large. All right. We talked to anthropic. We've talked about eye agents. You think that age of genetic trading could be pretty large. Or agents role on Robinhood could be pretty large. Let's talk prediction markets because as you guys said earlier this year, it's among the fastest growing business at at Robinhood.
所以早期增长非常可观。但对我们来说,我们只是在打磨产品,让它变得更好。但我们认为这可能会相当庞大。好的,我们与 Anthropic 进行了交谈。我们也讨论过 AI 智能体(AI agents)。你认为基因交易的时代可能会相当庞大。或者 Robinhood 上智能体的角色可能会相当庞大。让我们谈谈预测市场,因为正如你们今年早些时候所说,它是 Robinhood 增长最快的业务之一。
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