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OpenAI最新融资估值目标下调1.5亿美元

OpenAI Targets $1.25 Trillion Valuation in New Funding Round

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FRANCINE: THAT TECH ROUT CAUSES AFTER NASDAQ'S WORST DAY SINCE JUNE AS INVESTORS FLOCK TO SAFETY. BLOOMBERG LEARNS OPENAI SLASHED ITS VALUATION TARGET BY $150 MILLION. ANOTHER SIGN OF CONCERN OVER AI SPENDING. KERING SLUMPED AFTER GUCCI SALES DISAPPOINT AS WEAKNESS IN CHINA DEALS ANOTHER BLOW TO ITS TURNAROUND. FIRST THINGS FIRST, WE CHECKED THE MARKETS AND THERE'S A LOT GOING ON. STOCKS A LITTLE MORE STEADY CERTAINLY AT THE START OF THE EUROPEAN SESSION.

弗朗辛:科技股在纳斯达克自六月以来最糟糕的一天后遭遇抛售,投资者纷纷涌向避险资产。彭博社获悉,OpenAI 将其估值目标下调了 1.5 亿美元。这再次显示出市场对 AI 支出的担忧。开云集团股价大跌,因为古驰销售额令人失望,中国市场的疲软对其扭亏为盈的努力构成了又一次打击。首先,我们来看看市场,情况相当复杂。股市在欧洲交易时段开始时相对稳定。

MAY BE OFFERING SOME OF THE GLOBAL INVESTORS A BIT OF RESPITE AFTER THIS ROUT IN THE AI TRADE. NASDAQ GAINING .1%. OIL CONTINUES TO COMPLICATE THE INFLATION OUTLOOK. BRENT CRUDE TOUCHING THE HIGHEST SINCE EARLY MAY. ALSO LOOKING AT TREASURY YIELDS. THE 10 YEAR YIELD DOWN BY MORE THAN THE MOST IN A YEAR. LET'S ALSO LOOK AT THE EUROPEAN MARKETS MAP. THEY ARE FOLLOWING AND TRACKING WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE U.S. THIS IS THE PICTURE ACROSS THE BOARD WITH THE CAC AND DAX.

这可能为全球投资者提供了一些喘息之机,此前 AI 交易经历了剧烈波动。纳斯达克上涨 0.1%。油价继续使通胀前景变得复杂。布伦特原油触及今年5月初以来的最高水平。还要关注国债收益率。10年期收益率下跌超过一个月来的最大幅度。让我们再看看欧洲市场地图。它们正在跟随和追踪美国发生的情况。这是 CAC 指数和 DAX 指数的整体走势。

SO, FOR THE CONVERSATIONS THAT MATTER AND INSIGHTS YOU NEED, LET'S GET STARTED. ♪

因此,为了进行重要的对话并获取您所需的见解,让我们开始吧。♪

NEWSMAKERS AND MARKET MOVERS, THIS IS "THE PULSE WITH FRANCINE LACQUA." FRANCINE: GOOD MORNING AND WELCOME. NOW, LET'S START WITH TECH AND THE AI TRADE IS UNDER PRESSURE AFTER SOME PRETTY MIXED SIGNALS FROM THE U.S. MEGA CAP LEARNING STRIVING INVESTORS TO DEFENSIVE STOCKS AND OTHER HAVEN ASSETS. LET'S BRING IT OUR EQUITY STRATEGIST. I HAVE SO MANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE TECH ROUT BUT WHY HAVE TECH STOCKS BEEN SO PUNISHED?

新闻人物与市场动向,这是《弗朗辛·拉库亚脉搏》。弗朗辛:早上好,欢迎收看。现在,让我们从科技行业开始,在来自美国大型科技公司的信号好坏参半之后,AI 交易面临压力,促使投资者转向防御性股票和其他避险资产。让我们请我们的股票策略师来谈谈。关于科技股的抛售我有许多问题,但为什么科技股受到如此严重的惩罚?

TWO REASONS YESTERDAY. FIRST, THERE WAS A SPIKE IN OIL AND THAT BROUGHT TO THE FOR THE GEOPOLITICAL TENSIONS WITH THE BIG THING WAS THE META AND TESLA EARNINGS. CAPEX HAS BEEN A BIG THEME THIS YEAR. WHAT THAT MEANS IS FOR THE FIRST TIME, THE CAPEX TO OPERATING CASH FLOW RATIO WILL EXCEED 100% WHICH MEANS THEY WILL HAVE TO INCREASE IN FINANCE THESE THINGS THROUGH OTHER DEBT. FRANCINE: OPENAI IS SAID TO HAVE LOWERED ITS VALUATION TARGET IN ITS LATEST FUNDING ROUND.

昨天有两个原因。首先,油价飙升,这凸显了地缘政治紧张局势,而焦点在于 Meta 和特斯拉的财报。资本支出一直是今年的一个大主题。这意味着,资本支出与经营现金流比率首次将超过 100%,这意味着它们必须通过其他债务来增加融资以支持这些支出。弗朗辛:据悉,OpenAI 在其最新一轮融资中降低了估值目标。

THIS FEELS REALLY SIGNIFICANT. RUHELL: IT DOES AND IT IS UNSURPRISING GIVEN THE SELLOFF WE ARE SEEING IN AI STOCKS. INVESTORS ARE RECALIBRATING THE MULTIPLES IN WHICH THEY ARE PAYING AND THAT WILL IMPACT THE COMPANY LIKE OPENAI ANTHROPIC. FRANCINE: THANK YOU SO MUCH WITH THE VERY LATEST. PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS LEARNED TO GO A LITTLE FURTHER ON IRAN AS TENSIONS IN THE MIDDLE EAST MATCH IT UP. ATTACKS ON SAUDI ARABIA HAVE BEEN INTENSIFIED WITH OIL SET FOR THE THIRD WEEK OF GAINS WITH GROWING RISK OF WIDER MIDDLE EAST SUPPLY DISRUPTIONS.

这感觉非常重大。鲁赫尔:确实如此,鉴于我们在 AI 股票中看到的抛售,这并不令人惊讶。投资者正在重新校准他们支付的倍数,这将影响像 OpenAI 和 Anthropic 这样的公司。弗朗辛:非常感谢带来最新消息。特朗普总统在中东紧张局势加剧之际,对伊朗采取了更为强硬的立场。针对沙特阿拉伯的攻击有所升级,油价迎来连续第三周上涨,中东供应中断风险日益增大。

LET'S BRING IN ABEER. IS THERE RISK OF FURTHER REGIONAL ESCALATION? ABEER: GOOD MORNING. VERY REAL RISK. THE NEW YORK TIMES REPORTED EARLIER THIS WEEK THAT BOTH ISRAEL AND THE U.S. WERE CONSIDERING PLANS THREE ESCALATE, HIT IRAN DIRECTLY AGAIN AFTER THE MIDTERM ELECTIONS. THE IRANIAN FOREIGN MINISTER IN AN OP-ED IN THE FINANCIAL TIMES SAID IF THAT WERE TO HAPPEN, IRAN WOULD RETALIATE AND CIVILIAN LIVES WOULD BE AS RITZ -- AT RISK.

让我们请出阿比尔。地区局势进一步升级的风险有多大?阿比尔:早上好。风险非常现实。《纽约时报》本周早些时候报道,以色列和美国都在考虑在中期选举后制定计划,直接打击伊朗以升级冲突。伊朗外交部长在《金融时报》上发表的一篇评论文章中表示,如果发生这种情况,伊朗将进行报复,平民生命也将面临风险。

THIS IS HAPPENING AS ATTACKS ON SAUDI ARABIA BY THE HOUTHIS AS ESCALATING. THREE CASUALTIES REPORTED THIS WEEK. THOSE CONTINUED TO HAPPEN, CREATING THE UPSIDE IN BRENT CRUDE PRICES WE ARE SEEING AROUND $114. THAT IS DESPITE THE PERCEIVED RISK THAT IT CAN GET MUCH HIGHER IF DISRUPTIONS WERE TO FOLLOW IN THIS STRAIT OF HORMUZ. THIS IS ALL HINGING ON THE NOVEMBER 3 MIDTERM ELECTIONS AND WHAT THE U.S. DECIDE TO DO WITH THE AFTERMATH.

与此同时,胡塞武装对沙特阿拉伯的袭击正在升级。本周报告有三名伤亡人员。如果这些袭击持续发生,布伦特原油价格将上涨至我们目前看到的约114美元。尽管人们普遍认为,如果霍尔木兹海峡出现中断,油价可能会涨得更高,但这一风险依然存在。这一切都取决于11月3日的中期选举结果以及美国决定如何处理后续事宜。

FRANCINE: ABEER, THANK YOU SO MUCH WITH THE VERY LATEST. JOINING US IS THE SENIOR MARKET STRATEGIST AT BNY. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US FOR IT FEELS LIKE EVERY WEEK IS A BIG WEEK BUT I AM NOT REALLY SURE WHAT YOUR TAKE IS ON TECH RIGHT NOW. USUALLY THE SELLOFF IS A COUPLE DAYS AND THEN THEY REGROUP SOME OF THEIR LOSSES. JEFF: GO BACK TO FINANCIAL CONDITIONS AND WORK CONDITIONING IS. AS LONG AS WE HAVE THIS YIELD CURVE RESPONSE WITH SOVEREIGNS AND STEEPENING, GEOPOLITICS AND WHATNOT -- FINANCIAL CONDITIONS WILL TIGHTEN AND THAT WILL AFFECT THE HEAVY POSITION.

弗朗辛:阿比尔,非常感谢你带来最新消息。BNY的高级市场策略师也加入了我们的节目。感谢你参与讨论,感觉每周都是一个大周,但我真的不太确定你对科技股目前的看法。通常抛售只持续几天,然后他们会重新集结并挽回部分损失。杰夫:回到金融状况和工作条件来看。只要收益率曲线对主权债券做出反应并趋于陡峭,加上地缘政治等因素,金融条件将会收紧,这将影响重仓头寸。

WHAT IS INTERESTING IS IF I LOOK AT OUR OWN DATA AND WHERE THE SHORT INTEREST IS, THERE IS SOME BELOW. ON THE ONE HAND, THAT MEANS THERE IS SOME CALL HIM BUT ON THE OTHER IF YOU WANT TO TAKE THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE COIN, PEOPLE WERE NOT PREPARED FOR THIS. THERE'S OTHER DATA POINTING OTHERWISE. FRANCINE: VERY SIMPLY, WHAT ARE PEOPLE WORRIED ABOUT? WE TALK ABOUT VALUATION AND HAVE BEEN WORRIED ABOUT VALUATION FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

有趣的是,如果我查看我们自己的数据以及空头兴趣所在,有些指标低于预期。一方面,这意味着有一些看跌期权,但另一方面,如果你想从硬币的另一面来看,人们并没有为此做好准备。还有其他数据指向相反的方向。弗朗辛:简单地说,人们担心的是什么?我们一直在谈论估值,并且已经担心估值有一段时间了。

JEFF: IT IS VALUATIONS BUT RELATIVE TO WHAT BOND YIELDS WILL GIVE YOU. REAL RATES AND U.S. CURVES AND EUROPEAN CURVES ARE THAT HIGH, THERE IS COMPETITION FOR CAPITAL SO YOU HAVE TO PROVE YOUR WORTH. ON A RELATIVE BASIS, VALUATIONS ARE NOT LOOKING AS ATTRACTIVE. IN THE PAST WHEN BOND YIELDS ARE NOT GIVING YOU AS MUCH, THEY LOOK MUCH MORE ATTRACTIVE. I THINK THAT RELATIVE STORY HAS CHANGED. FRANCINE: WE HAVE SEEN A NUMBER OF BIG TECH COMPANIES TAKING CREDIT OUT THERE BECAUSE THEY NEED THE FUNDING.

杰夫:这确实是估值问题,但相对于债券收益率能给你带来什么而言。实际利率以及美国和欧洲的收益率曲线如此之高,资本竞争激烈,因此你必须证明自己的价值。从相对角度来看,估值看起来并不那么有吸引力。在过去,当债券收益率没有给你太多回报时,它们看起来要更有吸引力。我认为这种相对关系已经改变。弗朗辛:我们看到许多大型科技公司在那里发行信用债,因为他们需要资金。

WILL THAT CHANGE? JEFF: RIGHT NOW, THERE IS RECALIBRATION NEEDED. IF DEMAND IS STILL WHERE THEY SAY IT IS GOING TO BE AND THERE'S EVERY REASON TO BELIEVE SO, I THINK DEMAND FOR FUNDING WILL BE THERE. INVESTORS WILL SUCH INTENT IS FINE BUT I NEED TO SEE A RETURN, I NEED TO SEE EXECUTION ON THE OTHERS OF THAT. YOU CAN TALK ABOUT HOW MUCH WE WILL SPEND BUT WHAT ABOUT THE IMPLICIT CONTINGENT COSTS? THAT IS WHERE THE MIDTERMS -- EUROPEAN GOVERNMENTS ARE LOOKING AT THIS AS WELL.

情况会改变吗?杰夫:目前需要进行重新校准。如果需求仍如他们所说的那样,并且有充分理由相信如此,我认为资金需求将会存在。投资者的意图固然不错,但我需要看到回报,需要看到其他方面的执行成果。你可以谈论我们会花费多少,但隐性或有成本呢?这就是中期选举的问题——欧洲政府也在关注这一点。

FAR TOO MANY MOVING PARTS. FRANCINE: WHAT IS YOUR TAKE ON INFLATION? THERE ARE MANY QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE ENERGY PRICE, THE OIL PRICE AND SAFETY IN THE MIDDLE EAST. JEFF: I'M A BIT MORE CAUTIOUSLY OPTIMISTIC ON INFLATION AND THE MAIN CHANGE OVER THE LAST TWO MONTHS IS GOVERNMENT YIELDS. IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT THE ECB IS SAYING NOW, BECAUSE THE STEEPNESS AND YIELD CURVES, THAT IS ACTING AS RESTRAINT. BANK OF ENGLAND HAS BEEN SAYING THIS FOR A WHILE.

变数太多。弗朗辛:你对通胀有何看法?关于能源价格、油价以及中东的安全局势,有许多疑问。杰夫:我对通胀持谨慎乐观态度,过去两个月的主要变化是政府收益率。如果你看看欧洲央行(ECB)现在的说法,因为收益率曲线的陡峭程度,这起到了抑制作用。英格兰银行已经这样说有一段时间了。

IF PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT -- LOOK AT THE CONSUMER EXPECTATION SURVEY TODAY IN THE U.K.. IF HOUSEHOLDS ARE GOING TO PULL BACK, THAT WILL BE A RESTRAINT ON INFLATION AS WELL. CENTRAL BANKS, FAR TOO AGGRESSIVE BID UP I AM CAUTIOUSLY OPTIMISTIC ON THAT. FRANCINE: I WANT TO GET TO FRANCE AND THEN WE WILL COME BACK TO TALK ABOUT EUROPEAN BOND YIELDS. FRENCH AUTHORITIES ARE BRACING FOR A NEW ROUND OF PROTESTS WITH REINFORCED POLICE PRESENCE AND MILITARY BACK OUT TO PREVENT A REPEAT OF LAST WEEKEND'S RIOTS.

如果人们正在观察——看看今天英国的消费者预期调查。如果家庭打算收缩开支,那也将成为对通胀的抑制。中央银行过于激进地推高[利率],对此我持谨慎乐观态度。弗朗辛:我想谈谈法国,然后我们再回来讨论欧洲债券收益率。法国当局正为新一轮抗议活动做准备,加强了警力部署并出动军队,以防止上周末骚乱的再次发生。

LET'S GET MORE WITH ALAN KATZ. WHAT ARE WE EXPECTING THIS WEEKEND? WHAT STEPS IS THE GOVERNMENT TAKING?

让我们听听艾伦·卡茨的看法。这个周末我们期待什么?政府正在采取哪些步骤?

IT PROBABLY WON'T BE AS VIOLENT AS LAST WEEK IT IN PART BECAUSE OF THOSE STEPS YOU MENTIONED. WITH THE GOVERNMENT IS DOING IS ADDING ABOUT 20% TO THE POLICE PRESENCE ON THE GROUND. ABOUT 70,000 POLICE ALL TOLD AROUND THE COUNTRY. IN ADDITION, THEY ARE BRINGING OUT THE MILITARY FORCES TO HELP PROTECT BUILDINGS AND STATIC POINTS THAT A HIGH PRIORITY FOR FRANCE AND THE POINT OF THAT WILL FREE UP POLICE RESOURCES. SO, THERE MIGHT BE SOME VIOLENCE PARTICULARLY LATE IN THE DAY AS THERE TRADITIONALLY IS IN FRENCH PROTESTS.

暴力程度可能不会像上周那么严重,部分原因是因为你提到的那些措施。政府正在将地面警力增加约20%。全国共有约7万名警察。此外,他们调动军事力量来帮助保护建筑物和静态要点,这对法国来说是当务之急,其目的是腾出警力资源。因此,可能会出现一些暴力事件,特别是在一天中的晚些时候,这在法国抗议活动中历来如此。

THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE THAT COME TO THESE PROTESTS WITH THE PURPOSE OF FIGHTING WITH POLICE. IT IS HARD TO PREDICT. IT SEEMS MUCH LESS LIKELY THERE WOULD BE THE KIND OF RIOTING AND LOOTING THAT THERE WAS LAST WEEKEND. YOU NEVER KNOW WITH THESE THINGS BUT WE WILL BE OUT THERE AND CHECKING IT ALL DAY TOMORROW. PEOPLE ARE PAYING ATTENTION. FRANCINE: WHY IS IT SO DIFFICULT TO EXPLAIN WHAT IS UNDERLYING THESE RIOTS? THEY START AS STUDENT PROTESTS AND THEN THEY TURN INTO'S SOMETHING ELSE.

有些人参加这些抗议活动的目的是与警察发生冲突。这很难预测。似乎不太可能出现上周末那种骚乱和抢劫的情况。对于这类事情你永远无法预料,但明天我们会全天候在现场进行观察。人们正在密切关注。弗朗辛:为什么解释这些骚乱背后的原因如此困难?它们起初是学生抗议,然后变成了别的东西。

THEY ARE DIFFICULT TO CONTAIN. GEOFFREY: THEY ARE DIFFICULT TO EXPLAIN IT BECAUSE A FEW DIFFERENT THINGS HAVE COME TOGETHER. THERE WERE THE STUDENT PROTESTS THAT WERE PRETTY SPECIFIC TO SCHOOL CONDITIONS. ABOUT DILAPIDATED CLASSROOMS, THE SYSTEM FOR ATTRIBUTING UNIVERSITY SLOTS. SEPARATELY YOU HAVE COST-OF-LIVING PROTESTS AND THOSE WERE ORIGINALLY PLANNED BEFORE THE STUDENT PROTESTS GOT GOING BUT PLANNED FOR SIX WEEKS OUT.

它们难以控制。杰弗里:它们难以解释,因为几件不同的事情汇聚在了一起。最初是针对学校状况的学生抗议,具体涉及破旧的教室以及大学名额分配制度。与此同时还有生活成本抗议,这些抗议原本在学生抗议开始之前就已计划好,并计划持续六周。

THEY SORT OF CAME TOGETHER LAST WEEKEND, ARE THEY GOING TO STAY TOGETHER? IT IS NOT REALLY CLEAR. DID THE THING THAT YOU HAVE -- THERE'S NO ONE TO REALLY TALK TO. ESPECIALLY FOR THE

它们在上周末某种程度上汇聚在了一起,它们会继续保持联合吗?目前还不是很清楚。你提到的情况——其实没有人可以真正与之交谈。尤其是对于

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