韩国数据中心IPO破发致AI股回调,Softbank信用违约互换飙升
AI Fears Return With Data Center IPO Flop; SpaceX, Netflix Earnings
韩国数据中心IPO大幅破发直接冲击AI资产估值逻辑,Softbank CDS飙升反映机构风险偏好变化,建议关注AI产业链估值重估风险。
VONNIE: GOOD MORNING, LET'S GET YOU SET UP FOR THE DAY. IPO FLOP FOR THE SOUTH KOREAN DATA CENTER FIRM, PUTTING A PAUSE ON AN AI STOCK RECOVERY. PRESIDENT ZELENSKYY HEADING TO NORWAY FOR A NEW PEACE TALK AT THE FRICTION BETWEEN THE U.K. AND -- UKRAINE AND THE U.S. DEEPENS. AND A HOST OF EARNINGS REPORTS ON DECK INCLUDING SPACEX, NETFLIX, GENERAL MOTORS AND FENCE GIANTS RTX AND NORTHRUP. LET'S GET A CHECK ON MARKETS AROUND THE WORLD HEADING INTO THE SECOND TRADING SESSION OF THE WEEK.
VONNIE:早上好,让我们为您开启新的一天。韩国数据中心公司IPO失败,给AI股复苏按下暂停键。泽连斯基总统前往挪威举行新一轮和平谈判,英乌与美乌之间的摩擦加深。今日财报季重磅登场,包括SpaceX、Netflix、通用汽车以及防务巨头RTX和诺斯罗普。让我们看看全球市场在迎来本周第二个交易日时的表现。
LET'S START WITH OLIVIA WITH THE LATEST FROM ASIA. OLIVIA: GOOD MORNING. ANOTHER DIFFICULT DAY FOR ASIAN STOCKS, PARTICULARLY THOSE AI AND CHIP PLAYERS. SOFTBANK'S CREDIT DEFAULT SWAPS ROSE TO THE HIGHEST LEVEL IN NEARLY FOUR YEARS WHILE OF COURSE THAT THEY VIEW BY ELICE HAD STOCKS CLIMBED NEARLY 33%. THERE IS ONE BRIGHT SPOT AND THAT IS INDONESIA. STOCK EXCHANGE OPERATOR ANNOUNCING THAT THEY MAY TAKE EFFORTS TO EXPEL TIGHTLY HELD COMPANIES FROM ITS BENCHMARK INDEX, AND THAT IS ALL IN AN EFFORT TO AVOID EXCLUSION FROM THE EMERGING MARKETS INDEX.
让我们先从Olivia带来的亚洲最新报道开始。Olivia:早上好。亚洲股市再次遭遇艰难一天,尤其是那些涉及AI和芯片的公司。软银的信用违约互换(CDS)飙升至近四年来的最高水平,而当然,由Elice持有的股票则飙升了近33%。唯一亮点是印度尼西亚。证券交易所运营商宣布,他们可能会采取措施将紧密持股的公司从其基准指数中剔除,这是为了避免被排除在新兴市场指数之外。
ON THAT HEADLINE WE SAW INDONESIA'S STOCK MARKET JUMPING ABOUT 5%, SO THAT IS ONE BRIGHT SPOT IN AN OTHERWISE DISMAL SHOWING FOR ASIA. VONNIE: THANK YOU SO MUCH. THAT'S TAKE A LOOK AT EUROPE, NOT SO MUCH BECAUSE OF FRANCE, FRANCE NOT PARTICULARLY OUTPERFORMING TO THE DOWNSIDE, BUT THERE IS STILL A PULL OF UNREST ACROSS THE WHOLE OF THE REGION. WE HAVE THE STOXX 600 DOWN, JUST A FEW MOVES HIGHER LEADING THEM, HEALTH CARE.
受此头条新闻影响,我们看到印尼股市跳涨约5%,这在一向低迷的亚洲市场中是一个亮点。VONNIE:非常感谢。接下来看看欧洲,并非因为法国,法国并未特别跑赢大盘或出现显著下跌,但整个地区仍受到动荡情绪的拖累。STOXX 600指数下跌,仅少数板块走高领涨,其中医疗保健板块表现较好。
THE FRENCH 10 YEAR YIELD AT 4.93, VERY CLOSE TO 5% AND THAT SPREAD BETWEEN FRENCH OATS AND GERMAN BOMBS HIT 150 BASIS POINTS, EVEN IF THE PROTESTS HAVE BEEN QUELLED JUST A LITTLE BIT. WE ARE SEEING THE EURO HOLD ABOVE 1.12, PRIMARILY BECAUSE OF IT WITH A BIT OF DOLLAR WEAKNESS TODAY. LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THE U.S. OUTLOOK, AFTER EIGHT DAYS OF DECLINES. RIGHT NOW WE HAVE S&P FUTURES FIGURING OUT WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO DO, NASDAQ FUTURES COMING UP A LITTLE BIT AND RUSSELL 2000 FUTURES ALSO JUST BARELY HIGHER, SO WE WILL JUST WAIT AND SEE WHAT MOOD TAKES THE MARKET TODAY.
法国10年期国债收益率报4.93%,非常接近5%,法国国债与德国国债之间的利差达到150个基点,尽管抗议活动已略有平息。我们看到欧元维持在1.12上方,主要是因为今天美元略有走弱。让我们看看美国前景,在连续下跌八天后。目前标普期货正在决定其动向,纳斯达克期货小幅上涨,罗素2000期货也仅微幅走高,因此我们将拭目以待今天市场的情绪走向。
PLENTY OF THINGS TODAY JUST INCLUDING THAT FAILED IPO IN ASIA AND WHETHER IT BLEEDS ACROSS TO THE U.S. WE DID HAVE A NICE DAY YESTERDAY FOR THE NASDAQ 100. WE ARE DOWN A COUPLE OF BASIS POINTS. THE 30 YEAR YIELD HOLDING IN AROUND THE 5.45 MARK, ESSENTIALLY STABLE FOR YIELDS. THAT'S TAKE A LOOK AT SOME OF THE OTHER THING WE ARE WATCHING TODAY. WE ARE GOING TO BE SPEAKING ABOUT ALL OF THAT WITH JEANNE SUN WHO IS GOING TO JOIN US ON THESE MARKETS.
今天有很多事情值得关注,包括亚洲失败的IPO是否会蔓延至美国。昨天纳斯达克100指数表现不错。目前我们小幅下跌几个基点。30年期国债收益率维持在5.45%左右,收益率基本稳定。让我们再看看我们今天关注的其他事项。我们将与Jeanne Sun一起讨论所有这些话题,她将加入我们的节目探讨这些市场动态。
JEANNE SUN OF CITI. SO THIS GET BACK TO THE MARKET STORY OUT OF ASIA. JOINING THIS IS EXECUTIVE EDITOR PAUL DOBSON. PAUL, THIS FAILED IPO, THIS IS THE SECOND ONE OUT OF ASIA NOW IF YOU COUNT THE AUSTRALIA IPO THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO. IS THIS A PARTICULARLY ASIA STORY, OR JUST A BROADER MARKET STORY? PAUL: YEAH, SO I THINK THAT THIS ADDS MORE FUEL TO THE FLAMES AROUND THE AI AND THE DATA CENTER TRADE AT THE MOMENT.
Citi的Jeanne Sun。让我们回到亚洲市场的故事。 joins us是执行编辑Paul Dobson。Paul,这次失败的IPO,如果算上几周前在澳大利亚未能完成的IPO,这是目前来自亚洲的第二起案例。这是一个特定的亚洲故事,还是一个更广泛的市场故事?Paul:是的,我认为这为当前围绕AI和数据中心交易的炒作增添了更多燃料。
IT IS ONLY A RELATIVELY SMALL IPO, $150 MILLION, BUT THE MARKET TRADING AS IT GOT GOING TODAY WAS JUST ABOUT THE WORST PERFORMANCE FOR ANY SIGNIFICANT FUNDRAISING IN SOUTH KOREA, SO THAT SORT OF SPEAKS TO THE EXTENT OF THE JOB WHICH WAS AS MUCH AS 38% AT ONE TIME, BACK TO 32% TO CLOSE. IT IS PART OF THIS TREND THAT WE ARE SEEING IT, INVESTORS PUSHING BACK AGAINST THE VALUATIONS OF THE DATA CENTER-RELATED COMPANIES. WE SAW THAT AS YOU WERE SAYING IN AUSTRALIA, WHICH REARRANGED THE TERMS FOR ITS OWN FUNDRAISING AND THEN THE PUSHBACK IN EUROPE AS WELL.
这只是一次相对较小的IPO,金额为1.5亿美元,但今天市场交易的表现可以说是韩国任何重大融资活动中最差的,这在一定程度上反映了该股票一度下跌38%,收盘时跌幅为32%的情况。这是我们正在看到的趋势的一部分,投资者对与数据中心相关公司的估值表示抵制。正如你所说,我们在澳大利亚看到了这种情况,该公司重新安排了其自身融资的条件,随后在欧洲也出现了类似的抵制。
YOU GET SIMILAR NEGOTIATIONS GOING ON WITH SOME OF THE FIRMS LOOKING TO LIST. SO IT SORT OF ADDS TO THAT FEELING OF UNEASE THAT THERE IS AROUND THE VALUATIONS THAT THESE COMPANIES ARE LOOKING TO RAISE AT THE MOMENT IN THE MARKET AND THE BUSINESS MODELS THAT THEY ARE PURSUING. ALL OF THAT IN ADVANCE OF THE BIG IPO WE ARE WAITING FOR FROM ANTHROPIC LATER IN THE YEAR, WHICH WILL REALLY BE ONE OF THE BIGGEST TESTS FOR INVESTORS ON THE AI THEME.
一些寻求上市的公司也在进行类似的谈判。因此,这在一定程度上加剧了人们对这些公司目前试图在市场上筹集资金的估值以及它们所追求的商业模式的担忧。这一切都发生在我们期待Anthropic在今年晚些时候进行的大型IPO之前,这将是投资者对AI主题的一次重大考验。
VONNIE: ARE ALL THESE NECESSARY? IN THE U.S., COREWEAVE IS THE OBVIOUS POSTER CHILD, YOU SEE BONDS TRADING IN DISTRESS AT THE MOMENT. BUT THERE ARE LOTS MORE AND EACH ONE HAS MAY BE SLIGHTLY NICHE OFFERINGS FOR THEIR CUSTOMERS, BUT ALSO EACH ONE HAS JUST A VERY SMALL NUMBER OF CUSTOMERS. I MEAN, IS IT A RECIPE FOR DISASTER? PAUL: WELL, IT SORT OF DEPENDS WHETHER YOU BELIEVE THAT THE BUILDUP IS GOING TO WORK, WHETHER THE DEMAND IS GOING TO BE THERE.
VONNIE:这些都是必要的吗?在美国,CoreWeave显然是典型的例子,你看到它的债券目前处于困境交易中。但还有更多的公司,每家公司可能都有稍微利基化的客户产品,但每家公司也仅有非常少的客户数量。我的意思是,这是灾难的配方吗?Paul:嗯,这在某种程度上取决于你是否相信这种积累会奏效,需求是否会出现。
COREWEAVE IS QUITE INTERESTING. WE SAW FROM J.P. MORGAN AND FROM GOLDMAN SACHS AND FAVORABLE COMMENTARY OVER THE PAST FEW DAYS TALKING ABOUT THE BUSINESS MODEL. MOST OF THE FUNDING IS SORT OF SECURED LENDING THAT THEY ARE LOOKING AT, THAT THEY THEN HAVE LOCKED IN AT THE OTHER END IN TERMS OF THE RENTING OF THE DATA CENTER SPACE, SO IT IS JUST BASICALLY A SPREAD TRADE IN SOME WAYS, TAKING THE MONEY THAT IS GUARANTEED AND EARNING ON THE FLIPSIDE ONCE YOU'VE INVESTED IT , IT SHOULD BE RELATIVELY STRAIGHTFORWARD, IT IS AN EASY BUSINESS MODEL TO WORK.
CoreWeave相当有趣。我们从摩根大通和高盛过去几天的有利评论中看到了关于其商业模式的讨论。大部分资金似乎是某种形式的担保贷款,他们在另一端通过租赁数据中心空间锁定了收益,所以在某种程度上这基本上是一种利差交易,利用保证的资金并在投资后在另一侧赚取收益,这应该相对简单,是一个容易运作的商业模式。
BUT THE DATA CENTERS THEMSELVES ARE GETTING DELAYED IN GETTING PUSHED BACK EITHER ON THE ENERGY SIDE OR THE PLANNING SIDE, ON THE CONSTRUCTION SITE AS WELL. AND THERE'S ALSO JUST THIS CONCERN THAT THE BUILDOUT IS SO AGGRESSIVE THAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT BEING SO AMBITIOUS AND SO STRIDENT THAT THE VALUATIONS THAT THEY ARE SEEKING RAISE THOSE MISGIVINGS WITH INVESTORS AND LEAD TO A SORT OF ROCKY RECEPTION IF THEY GO TOO HARD IN THE IPO MARKET.
但数据中心本身也在推进过程中遇到延迟,无论是能源方面还是规划方面,施工现场也是如此。此外,人们还担心建设步伐过于激进,目标过高且态度强硬,导致投资者产生疑虑,如果它们在IPO市场过于激进,可能会引发不太平稳的市场反应。
VONNIE: JUST TO MOVE TO A DIFFERENT ASSET CLASS FOR A MOMENT, THIS VERY STRONG JAPANESE BOND OPTION THAT WE SAW, IS THAT A GOOD OR BAD SIDE? IS THIS A FLIGHT TO SAFETY IN JAPANESE ASSETS OR IS THIS JUST A HEALTHY MARKET? PAUL: I THINK AS FAR AS JAPAN IS CONCERNED, IT'S A GOOD SIGN. IF THIS FINALLY MORE DEMAND COMING IN FOR JAPANESE GOVERNMENT BONDS, IT BIT OF A SPREAD WITH A RECORD FOR THE 20 YEAR SECTOR. QUITE IMPRESSIVE.
VONNIE:暂时换个资产类别,我们刚才看到的日本债券期权走势非常强劲,这算是好迹象还是坏迹象?这是资金流向日本资产的避险行为,还是仅仅反映市场健康?PAUL:就日本而言,我认为这是一个好迹象。如果最终对日本政府债券的需求增加,20年期国债的利差将创下纪录。相当令人印象深刻。
IT SHOWS YOU THAT NOW WE'VE GOTTEN IS MUCH HIGHER YIELDS IN JAPAN. AND WHAT I THINK IS REALLY SIGNIFICANT IS THAT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE BREAKDOWN OF THE BIDS, A LARGE SECTION WAS CLASSIFIED AS UNKNOWN. UNKNOWNS IT IS MORE LIKELY EITHER FOREIGN DEMAND OR INSURANCE DEMAND THAT IS SUPPORTING THOSE SECURITIES, SO IT IS JAPANESE INVESTORS WHO HAVE BEEN EYEING CAREFULLY THE OPPORTUNITY TO BRING MORE MONEY HOME, FINALLY STARTING TO SNAP THINGS UP A LITTLE BIT MORE.
这表明我们现在在日本获得了更高的收益率。我认为真正有意义的是,当你查看投标明细时,很大一部分被归类为“未知”。这些“未知”方更可能是外国需求或保险需求在支撑这些证券,因此是那些一直密切关注机会、终于开始稍微积极买入的日本投资者将更多资金回流国内。
BUT I THINK THE BAD NEWS MIGHT BE IF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR THE FLIPSIDE OF THAT, WHERE IS THE MONEY COMING FROM, WHERE IS IT ESCAPING FROM? MAYBE EUROPE. THE FRENCH GOVERNMENT, WE HEARD ABOUT CUTTING BACK ON THEIR FUND HOLDINGS. WE KNOW THAT ASIA IS OUTPERFORMING EUROPE AS WELL AS THE MOMENT. MAYBE THAT IS WHERE ELUDED OF THAT FLOW IS TAKING PLACE, AND OPPORTUNITY TO REPATRIATE MONEY WITH A DECENT YIELD NOW AND TO AVOID SOME OF THOSE RISKS WER ARE SEEING IN THE EUROPEAN GOVERNMENT BOND SPACE.
但我认为,如果你寻找其反面,即资金从何而来、正从何处流出,坏消息可能来自欧洲。法国政府,我们听说他们正在削减基金持仓。我们知道亚洲目前的表现优于欧洲。也许资金流动正是从这里发生,现在有机会以合理的收益率将资金汇回国内,并避免我们在欧洲政府债券领域看到的一些风险。
VONNIE: PAUL, THANK YOU SO MUCH. STAYING ON TECH AFTER HAVING A DEAL FALL THROUGH WITH MICROSOFT, NSCALE IS BACK WITH A BLOCKBUSTER, AND TALKS TO SELL ITS COMPUTER POWER TO ANTHROPIC IN A DEAL THAT COULD BE WORTH $45 BILLION. MATT BLOXHAM JOINS US NOW. IF THIS DOES GO THROUGH, A DEFINITE WIN FOR AN SCALE BUT IT IS VERY DEPENDENT ON THAT ONE CUSTOMER, ISN'T IT? MATTHEW: IT IS ALL INCREDIBLY CONCENTRATED. THE WEEKEND NEWS WAS DISAPPOINTING WHEN THEY LOST MICROSOFT AND A PLANNED U.K.
VONNIE:PAUL,非常感谢你。在与微软的交易告吹后,NScale再次推出重磅交易,计划将其计算能力出售给Anthropic,这笔交易价值可能高达450亿美元。Matt Bloxham现在加入我们。如果这笔交易达成,对NScale来说无疑是一次胜利,但这非常依赖单一客户,不是吗?MATTHEW:情况确实高度集中。周末的消息令人失望,因为他们失去了微软以及原计划的英国(业务)。
FACILITY. ANTHROPIC WOULD GO SOME WAY TO BALANCE THAT OUT. PITCHING THE IPO OUTLOOK WOULD CERTAINLY BE A STRONG FORWARD PIPELINE FOR THEM TO KIND OF HELP INVESTORS FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE ABOUT THE FORWARD REVENUE OPPORTUNITY. LIKE A HUGE PART OF THE NSCALE STORY, THIS IS ABOUT BUILDING NEW FACILITIES AND THEY HAVE BEEN RUNNING INTO SOME OBSTACLES BOTH IN THE U.K. WITH A POWER SUPPLY ISSUE AND IN NORWAY WHERE THEY SEEM TO BE SOME ISSUES IN TERMS OF EXIT SHOULD.
设施。Anthropic 会尽力平衡这一点。推出 IPO 前景无疑将为他们提供一个强有力的未来管道,以帮助投资者对未来的收入机会感到更加安心。正如 Nvidia 故事的重要组成部分一样,这关乎于建设新设施,而他们已在英国因电力供应问题以及在挪威因退出方面似乎存在一些问题而遇到了一些障碍。
THERE IS STILL A LOT RIDING ON THE ABILITY TO DELIVER THESE FACILITIES ON TIME AND TO BUDGET BECAUSE QUITE OFTEN, THE CONTRACTS GIVE THE POTENTIAL CUSTOMERS IF THE DEADLINES SLIP. VONNIE: OBVIOUSLY IT HAS NOT IPO'D YET. WHAT HAPPENS NOW WITH ALL OF THE DIFFICULTIES? WOU
能否按时、按预算交付这些设施仍然至关重要,因为通常情况下,如果截止日期推迟,合同会给潜在客户带来风险。Vinnie:显然它还没有 IPO。面对所有这些困难,现在会发生什么?Wou
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