ASML上调2026年销售预期,AI需求致产能不足
ASML Boosts Outlook as AI Chip Demand Soars | Bloomberg Tech
ASML作为半导体设备龙头,其业绩指引与产能规划直接反映AI算力基础设施的投资强度与供需格局。关注其对2028年后的长期需求展望及对中国市场的合规立场,有助于评估全球半导体资本开支周期。
Bloomberg Audio Studios podcasts, radio, news. Bloomberg Tech is live from the heart of Silicon Valley with Ed Lello in San Francisco. This is Bloomberg Tech. Coming up, ASML raises its sales forecast for 2026 and aims to increase production of its chipmaking machines to keep up with soaring AI spending. Plus, we hear from Nvidia CEO Jensen Wong, fresh on the heels of announcing plans to invest $2 billion in European deals.
彭博音频工作室播客、广播、新闻。《彭博科技》直播自硅谷中心,由埃德·莱洛在旧金山主持。这是《彭博科技》。接下来,ASML上调其2026年销售预测,并计划增加芯片制造设备的产量,以跟上飙升的AI支出。此外,我们还将听到英伟达CEO黄仁勋的最新发言,他刚刚宣布计划在欧洲投资20亿美元。
And we take you inside of the making of Grand Theft Auto 6, expected to be the biggest video game blockbuster of all time. Okay, welcome to Wednesday. Taking a look at shares of ASML up 2.6% at one point in the session up 3.6% in Europe in Amsterdam at one point fell 1%. The producer of lithography machines chipmaking tools to manufacture cutting edge chips raised its sales outlook but said it's struggling to meet demand.
我们将带您深入《侠盗猎车手6》的制作过程,这款游戏有望成为有史以来最大的电子游戏大片。好的,欢迎来到周三。让我们看看ASML的股票,盘中一度上涨2.6%,在欧洲阿姆斯特丹一度上涨3.6%,随后下跌1%。这家生产用于制造尖端芯片的光刻机芯片制造工具的公司上调了销售前景,但表示难以满足需求。
Joining us with the deets Bloomberg Sarah Jacob who is in Amsterdam for ASML this is all about capacity right they had plans to boost capacity. They're saying that they're still in this place where demand is running ahead of their ability to supply. Give us the basics.
欢迎我们的嘉宾彭博社的莎拉·雅各布斯,她正在阿姆斯特丹报道ASML的情况。这一切都关乎产能,对吧?他们原本有计划提升产能。但他们表示,目前需求仍然超过他们的供应能力。请给我们一些基本情况。
Hi. Yes, that's right. Uh so ASML again basically just you know like you said raising the low end of its annual sales forecast for 2026 because it's seeing soaring artificial intelligence link demand. The CEO today saying that they're getting he's getting you know customers who are asking for you know more tools every day and it's become the key focus of life of ASML to get that capacity going. Just as a reminder in July, ASML said that you know it expected about uh 65 units in terms of capacity for 2026, 30% increase on that for 2027 and it was investigating a further 30% increase for 2028.
你好。是的,没错。所以ASML基本上正如你所说,上调了其2026年年度销售预测的低端值,因为它看到了激增的人工智能相关需求。首席执行官今天表示,他们每天都有客户询问更多设备,让产能运转起来已成为ASML生活的关键焦点。提醒一下,7月份ASML曾表示,预计2026年的产能约为65台,2027年将增加30%,并正在调查2028年进一步增加30%的可能性。
Today it says that those plans and those current supply uh patterns would not be enough to fulfill demand uh from what it's hearing from customers. So now they're investig investigating going beyond 30 uh 30% in 2028. So that's kind of interesting because it's it's hearing more from its customers in terms of the short-term and the medium-term requirements.
今天它表示,这些计划和当前的供应模式不足以履行从其客户那里听到的需求。因此,他们现在正在调查2028年是否要超越30%的增长。这很有趣,因为他们在短期和中期的需求方面听到了更多来自客户的信息。
Away from the financials, China is the story, right? There is a piece of proposed legislation to deepen restrictions, export restrictions on DUV immersion machines to China. This came up in the call. What did ASML have to say about China, Sarah?
抛开财务数据不谈,中国是故事的重点,对吧?有一项拟议立法旨在加强对中国的DUV浸没式光刻机的出口限制。这在电话会议中提到了。莎拉,ASML对中国问题有什么说法?
Yes. So, China again the third largest market for ASML in the third quarter after South Korea and Taiwan. uh still a significant contributor. And then we spoke to Roger Desen who is the CFO of ASML in a call with journalists today and he basically said according to him they believe that the match act is unbalanced. And he he said that you know by introducing such restrictions essentially you could slow uh um it going into China but it would sort of increase but not stop what China can do in developing technology and might actually you know sort of help uh homegrown technology in that regard.
是的。因此,继韩国和台湾之后,中国再次成为阿斯麦(ASML)第三季度的第三大市场。它仍然是一个重要的贡献者。随后,我们今天与阿斯麦的首席财务官罗杰·德森(Roger Desen)进行了电话采访,他基本上表示,据他看来,他们相信《芯片法案》存在不平衡。他说,通过引入此类限制,本质上可能会减缓进入中国的速度,但不会阻止中国在技术开发方面的进展,甚至可能在某种程度上有助于推动本土技术的发展。
Uh, and by preventing, you know, ASML's ability to service its own tools in China, there could potentially be, you know, intellectual property leakage or theft. Bloomberg Sarah Jacobs out in Amsterdam. Very long day for you. ASML, Europe's most valuable company reporting its earnings. Let's hear from ASML CEO Christoph said in a video released with the company's results that customers are asking every day for more tools to meet their own needs.
此外,通过阻止阿斯麦在中国为其自有设备提供售后服务,可能会导致知识产权泄露或被盗。彭博社的莎拉·雅各布斯(Sarah Jacobs)从阿姆斯特报道。对你来说真是漫长的一天。欧洲最有价值的公司阿斯麦公布了其财报。让我们听听阿斯麦首席执行官克里斯托夫(Christophe)在公司发布的业绩视频中的发言,他表示客户每天都在要求更多的设备以满足自身需求。
Today they expect that their supply will not meet the demand at least until 2028. So this is a very very strong demand on their side. So a lot of our discussion with our customer now are shifting in fact beyond 2027 lot of order intake for 2028 but also some strong interest to already place order for 2029 and sometime even 2030.
他们预计,至少到2028年之前,供应将无法满足需求。因此,他们的需求非常强劲。事实上,我们现在与客户的许多讨论已经超出了2027年,为2028年带来了大量的订单 intake,同时对于在2029年甚至有时是2030年下订单也表现出强烈的兴趣。
So ASML already talking to its customers about 2029. Let's discuss what that means for ASML, the AI boom with Antella, Franilo, an Listen, and in Tasa S. San Paulo. This again, it's about capacity, right? And I think what what the market's really struggling with here is like your customers are asking for more. You're trying to address the capacity issue. Where can they find more capacity?
因此,阿斯麦已经在与客户讨论2029年的事宜。让我们与Antella、Franilo、an Listen以及Tasa S.在圣保罗一起讨论这对阿斯麦意味着什么,以及AI繁荣的影响。这再次关乎产能问题,对吧?我认为市场在此处真正挣扎的是,你的客户要求更多,而你正试图解决产能问题。他们能在哪里找到更多的产能?
Hi. Um, hi. Thank you for this opportunity. Uh but uh this is a key point for them because it's an opportunity uh um to increase um their capacity to match the strong orders demand. What can they do? They can um optimize uh their um um production. They can release a product upgrades. they can uh they are already uh receiving um um u strong uh strong demand for productivity uh for product upgrades um uh which is uh the reason why in the third quarter the um uh um installed base management uh where I expected.
你好。嗯,你好。感谢给予这次机会。但这对他们来说是一个关键点,因为这是一个增加产能以匹配强劲订单需求的机会。他们能做什么?他们可以优化生产。他们可以发布产品升级。他们已经收到了对产品升级生产力强烈需求的反馈,这也是为什么第三季度安装基础管理(installed base management)符合我预期的原因。
So uh they are uh really uh pushing their effort to increase the capacity which remains for them and for the whole uh value chain the key constraint to match demand which remains very strong.
因此,他们正在大力推动增加产能的努力,而产能仍然是他们以及整个价值链中满足需求的关键约束条件,且需求依然非常强劲。
And how unusual is it for ASML or anyone in the the the chipm equipment space to already be talking to customers about 2029 2030. They haven't taken orders, right? They're pretty clear on that. But they are talking to customers about 2029 and 2030.
在芯片设备领域,ASML 或其他公司就 2029 年和 2030 年的情况与客户进行交流,这种情况有多不寻常?他们还没有接单,对吧?这一点他们很清楚。但他们确实在与客户讨论 2029 年和 2030 年的相关事宜。
Yeah, this is uh you know something which is becoming quite uh you know uh common to hear from uh testing testing equipment players. Um um we heard from many of them um speaking about uh full uh capacity already reached in terms of orders for 2027 and still very stretched for 2028. Um you have to consider that we are um across an unprecedented uh tech um revolution with AI deployment. It's a multi-year upcycle. So uh it's um you know something that we have to look at a multi-year time horizon and therefore it's correct uh you know to look at 2029 to 2029 2030 and even beyond in their case considering the potential technolog technological upgrades they are implementing and the new initiatives they launched with with TSMC and uh and stronger.
是的,你知道,这在测试设备厂商中变得越来越常见。我们听到了许多厂商的发言,称 2027 年的订单已达到满负荷状态,而 2028 年依然非常紧张。你必须考虑到,我们正经历一场前所未有的技术革命,即 AI 的大规模部署。这是一个持续多年的上行周期。因此,我们需要从多年的时间跨度来审视这一问题,所以对他们而言,关注 2029 年至 2030 年甚至更远的时间点是正确的,这考虑到他们正在实施的技术升级以及他们与台积电(TSMC)等合作伙伴推出的新举措。
And to let's talk about ASML's customers, right? We know who they are. High concentration, TSMC, Samsung, and Intel. Of those three, do we have a sense of who needs the these lithography machines most? Who who's pushing ASML hardest? uh they don't provide this information but uh we can deduct that memory makers are now running ahead of all the others. They confirmed that during the call um but also advanced logic um are needed for the um advanced chips.
让我们谈谈 ASML 的客户,对吧?我们知道他们是谁:客户集中度很高,主要是台积电、三星和英特尔。在这三者之中,谁最急需这些光刻机?谁在推动 ASML 的力度最大?虽然他们不提供此类信息,但我们可以推断出,内存制造商目前领先于其他所有厂商。他们在电话会议中证实了这一点,同时先进逻辑芯片也需要先进的光刻机。
So at the end it's something that is related to all the main um advanced chip manufacturers.
所以归根结底,这与所有主要的先进芯片制造商都有关联。
ASML is Europe's most valuable company publicly traded company. It's a stock that's up 67% year to date. But what I found interesting in kind of the bigger picture story of what's happening in the chip equipment makers um the semiconductor industry overall is airmail hit a record in June and it is essentially traded sideways since. It's made attempts to get to those levels but not hit fresh records since that that June 30th record.
ASML 是欧洲市值最高的上市公司。其年初至今股价上涨了 67%。但我发现,在更宏观的背景下,关于芯片设备制造商乃至整个半导体行业的故事中,有一个有趣的现象:ASML 在 6 月份创下了历史新高,此后 Essentially 一直在横盘交易。它曾尝试突破该水平,但自 6 月 30 日创下纪录以来,尚未再创新高。
Where's your head at with the valuation of this company right now um and and the forward trajectory of of its growth? Yeah, the um decline in the share price from the May pick is something that also um regarded the other um most of um semiconductor players. Uh but uh considering the strong earnings upgrades uh we have implemented since then now valuation look very appealing in my view. The stock is trading at multiples which are uh in line with the last five year average which in our view doesn't um take into consideration properly the fact that we are uh now in an upycle show.
您目前对这家公司的估值怎么看?以及它未来的增长轨迹如何?是的,自5月推荐以来股价的下跌也是半导体行业大多数公司所面临的共同情况。但考虑到我们自那时起实施的强劲盈利上调,在我看来,目前的估值看起来非常有吸引力。该股票的交易倍数与我们过去五年的平均水平一致,但我们认为这并未充分反映我们目前已进入上行周期的事实。
So the stock should trade above the historical leverage. Moreover, uh the uh stock has almost closed the historical premium to the US peers uh which uh we also consider as um um not uh you know adequate. So for all these reasons we believe that um stock correction and on the other hand uh the uh strong earnings upgrades uh and the potential further upside ahead could uh could prompt a relating of the share price
因此,该股票的交易价格应高于历史杠杆水平。此外,该股几乎已经抹平了与美国同行相比的历史溢价,我们认为这也是不合理的。因此,基于所有这些原因,我们相信股票的回调,另一方面强劲的盈利上调以及未来潜在的进一步上涨空间,可能会促使股价回归合理水平。
and and let's talk about China. You heard Sarah's reporting on ASML's position uh on the match act and the burden that they feel it unduly places on them. China was 23%
让我们谈谈中国。你们听到了Sarah关于ASML在《芯片法案》(CHIPS Act)立场的报道,以及他们感到该法案给他们带来的不当负担。中国曾占其收入的23%。
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