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Zvi:前沿AI实验室的安全文化已破裂

The Safety Culture at the Labs is Broken

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深度剖析了OpenAI与Anthropic内部的安全文化危机,引用了关键离职事件与一线研究者的反思,对理解行业安全治理现状极具参考价值。

We need the frontier labs to have a deep and robust safety culture.

我们需要前沿实验室拥有深厚且稳健的安全文化。

Alas, this is not the case.

遗憾的是,事实并非如此。

Anthropic devotes considerable effort to cultivating and maintaining such a culture. It shows, especially among the members of technical staff. Having conversations with them can be a very different experience than talking to those at other labs, and there is a much greater sense of understanding and responsibility. But even there, the appreciation of the problems and their difficulties seem woefully insufficient. We see various symptoms of that more and more.

Anthropic 投入了大量精力来培养和维护这种文化。这在技术团队成员身上体现得尤为明显。与他们交谈的体验与与其他实验室的人交谈截然不同,这里有着更强的理解感和责任感。但即便如此,他们对问题及其难度的认识似乎仍然严重不足。我们越来越多地看到这种症状的各种表现。

Recently, while I’ve had some good interactions, I’ve also had interactions that make clear that much of Anthropic does not share that same safety culture, with a lot of ‘oh we will muddle through because we are better at operational excellence unlike those other idiots’ and a belief that all the problems are prosaic. Culture is hard.

最近,虽然我有一些良好的互动经历,但也有一些互动清楚地表明,Anthropic 的大多数部门并不共享同样的安全文化,充斥着诸如“哦,我们会蒙混过关,因为我们在运营卓越方面比其他那些白痴更擅长”之类的言论,以及认为所有问题都是琐碎的看法。企业文化很难改变。

Then there are OpenAI’s cultural problems, which clearly run deeper. That point was only driven further home this week, with David Robinson resigning to blow the whistle, and OpenAI feeling forced to fire three of its safety researchers, on top of many past problems and incidents.

然后是 OpenAI 的文化问题,这些问题显然更为根深蒂固。本周,随着 David Robinson 辞职吹哨,以及 OpenAI 在诸多过往问题和事件之上被迫解雇三名安全研究人员,这一点得到了进一步的印证。

That is on top of additional misalignment reports from both OpenAI and Anthropic. The reports are good things, but what is reported emphasizes that we have big problems that run deep.

这还只是叠加了来自 OpenAI 和 Anthropic 的额外不对齐报告。这些报告是好事,但报告所强调的内容突显出我们存在深层次的重大问题。

Thus, the growing consensus that we must find a way to Pace the Frontier and slow the pace of AI capabilities advances. This is potentially made more complicated by what could be increased competitiveness from Google and Meta, with the releases of Argon and Wonder. It is still too early to provide proper assessments there.

因此,人们日益达成共识:我们必须找到一种方法来控制前沿发展步伐,减缓 AI 能力进步的节奏。Google 和 Meta 发布 Argon 和 Wonder 可能带来的竞争加剧,使这一前景变得更为复杂。现在对此进行适当评估还为时过早。

There is a growing group of lab employees who have felt compelled to quit in protest. New York Magazine had a cover feature interviewing some prominent ones. The most famous is Coxon, who provided the tipping point for the current preference cascade.

有一群越来越多的实验室员工感到被迫辞职以示抗议。《纽约杂志》曾刊登封面专题,采访了一些知名人士。最著名的是 Coxon,他提供了当前偏好级联效应的临界点。

Table of Contents

目录

  • David Robinson Blows the Whistle.
  • The Preference Cascade Continues.
  • Perhaps It Is Time To Quit.
  • The Lab Strategy of Prosaic Safety is Insufficient.
  • Misaligned! (At Anthropic).
  • Misaligned! (At OpenAI).
  • Hugging the Face.
  • You’re Fired.
  • They Are Not Ready To Make a Commitment.
  • Words of Warning.
  • Conclusions Not to Jump To.
  • The Lighter Side.
  • David Robinson 吹哨揭发。
  • 偏好级联效应持续发酵。
  • 也许是时候辞职了。
  • 平庸安全(Prosaic Safety)的实验室战略是不够的。
  • 不对齐!(在 Anthropic)。
  • 不对齐!(在 OpenAI)。
  • 拥抱表象。
  • 你被解雇了。
  • 他们尚未准备好做出承诺。
  • 警告之言。
  • 不应仓促得出的结论。
  • 轻松的一面。

David Robinson Blows the Whistle

David Robinson 吹哨揭发

David Robinson became the latest researcher to resign from OpenAI and sound the alarm about the industry’s utterly irresponsible approach to safety. He also went on The Ezra Klein Show, which gives you a rich idea of where he is coming from.

David Robinson 成为最新一位从 OpenAI 辞职并就该行业对安全问题采取完全不负责任的态度发出警报的研究人员。他还参加了《Ezra Klein Show》节目,这让你对他所处的立场有了丰富的了解。

David Robinson was the lead writer for the Astra system card. That could help explain why he felt the OpenAI safety culture was broken. That card is screaming that things are horribly wrong, for those with ears to hear.

David Robinson 是 Astra 系统卡的主要撰写者。这或许能解释为什么他觉得 OpenAI 的安全文化已经支离破碎。对于那些听得懂的人而言,那张卡片在尖叫着事情糟透了。

David is not even that worried about existential risk. His worries are mundane, and he realizes that even on that level OpenAI’s safety culture is deeply broken.

David 甚至并不那么担心存在性风险。他的担忧是世俗的,他意识到即使在这个层面上,OpenAI 的安全文化也严重破裂。

As always, we deeply thank him for sounding the alarm. I hope to write his name in these posts many times over the coming months and years.

一如既往,我们深深感谢他发出的警报。我希望在接下来的几个月和几年里,在这些帖子中多次提到他的名字。

When you have to open your whistleblowing essay about the lack of safety at OpenAI saying it has become a cliche to blow the whistle on the utter lack of safety at OpenAI, there might be a problem with the lack of safety at OpenAI.

当你不得不打开一篇关于 OpenAI 缺乏安全性的吹哨人文章,并指出在 OpenAI 完全缺乏安全性的问题上发出警告已成为陈词滥调时,这说明 OpenAI 的安全性缺失可能确实是个问题。

David Robinson: What I’m about to tell you has, I realize, become something of a cliché: I resigned this week from OpenAI. I led the writing of the safety reports we published with each major launch. Now I’m joining a parade of former colleagues—at OpenAI and the industry’s other leaders—who have decided that the current path is unacceptable.

David Robinson:我接下来要告诉你的事情,我意识到,已经成为了一种陈词滥调:我本周从 OpenAI 辞职了。我负责撰写了我们每次重大发布时随附的安全报告。现在,我正加入前同事们(来自 OpenAI 和行业其他领导者)的队伍——他们决定当前的道路是不可接受的。

I agree with other recently departed staff that the companies building this technology aren’t being nearly careful enough. But I believe that we need to look deeper than specific rules or new laws. We need to talk about culture.

我与最近离职的其他员工意见一致,认为开发这项技术的公司远不够谨慎。但我认为,我们需要深入探讨,而不是仅仅关注具体的规则或新法律。我们需要谈论文化。

We have to look at rules, and at laws, and also at culture.

我们必须审视规则、法律,以及文化。

The more I thought about various potential laws and regulations, or safety and security plans or other commitments, the more I concluded that without a strong safety culture, and without the spirit of the rules, there is no hope. You cannot, in any reasonable way, have rules that cannot be gamed by those determined to game them.

我越是思考各种潜在的法律法规、安全计划或其他承诺,就越得出结论:如果没有强大的安全文化,没有遵守规则的精神,就毫无希望。在任何合理的方式下,你都无法制定那些无法被决心钻空子的人所操纵的规则。

Two changes are urgently needed.

迫切需要两项改变。

First: AI companies need to rely more on the safety expertise that already exists in other fields.

第一:AI 公司需要更多地依赖其他领域已有的安全知识专长。

And second, before we create systems significantly more capable than the ones we have today, we need new science to ensure that more capable models (and their successors) will make safe choices when we aren’t looking.

第二,在我们创造出比今天强大得多的系统之前,我们需要新的科学来确保更强大的模型(及其后继者)在我们不注视的时候也会做出安全的选择。

Given today’s risks, frontier labs need to run like nuclear-power plants or busy airports, with layers of redundancy and careful, time-consuming planning, so that the occasional and inevitable human error does not open a door to disaster.

鉴于当今的风险,前沿实验室需要像核电站或繁忙机场那样运作,具备多层冗余和细致、耗时的规划,以确保偶尔且不可避免的人为错误不会打开灾难之门。

Even though, as I detail later, David Robinson is not on the existential risk train, he still understands that alignment is a science problem, and we will need new science. ‘Oh it will not kill literally everyone,’ even if it were true, would not be an excuse to not do the safety work.

尽管如我后文详述的那样,David Robinson 并不处于存在性风险的轨道上,但他仍然理解对齐是一个科学问题,我们需要新的科学。‘哦,它不会 literally(字面上)杀死每个人’,即使这是真的,也不能成为不做安全工作的借口。

It should be hard to argue with either of those suggestions. And yet.

很难反驳上述两种建议中的任何一种。然而。

We have experts in mundane safety and solving prosaic issues. OpenAI does not hire them, and neither to my knowledge do Anthropic or Google or anyone else.

我们在日常安全和解决琐碎问题方面有专家。OpenAI 不雇佣他们,据我所知,Anthropic、Google 或其他任何人也不雇佣。

After three and a half years at OpenAI, I was among the longest-tenured employees at the company. I led the drafting of our current Preparedness Framework, and oversaw the writing of safety reports on 12 frontier launches. But as far as I know, I never encountered a colleague who had experience making airplanes fly safely or nuclear reactors run without melting down, or helping the financial system grow without collapsing.

在 OpenAI 工作了三年半后,我是公司里任职时间最长的员工之一。我负责起草了我们当前的准备框架(Preparedness Framework),并监督了关于 12 次前沿模型发布的安全报告的撰写。但据我所知,我从未遇到过有让飞机安全飞行、让核反应堆不发生熔毁运行,或帮助金融系统在崩溃中增长经验的同事。

To be clear, this is a new need: Today and tomorrow’s AI systems are far more capable and dangerous than the systems we were building even six months ago.

明确地说,这是一个新需求:今天和明天的 AI 系统比我们要六个月前构建的系统更具能力且更危险。

I disagree only with the final sentence. This is not a new need. You need to prepare for the future, not only for the present. Even setting that aside, mundane safety issues have been crippling AI’s potential utility for years. This is a slam dunk thing to do.

我只不同意最后一句话。这不是一个新需求。你需要为未来做准备,而不仅仅是为现在做准备。即使抛开这一点不谈,日常安全问题多年来一直严重阻碍着 AI 的潜在效用。这是一项毫无疑问应该做的事情。

Miles Brundage: David’s right.

Miles Brundage:David 说得对。

I regret helping spread the idea of “iterative deployment” which maybe briefly made sense in the GPT-3 era but makes no sense at all after many deaths have been tied to AI and as we’re careening towards extinction-level risks.

我后悔帮助传播了“迭代部署”的理念,这在 GPT-3 时代可能短暂地有意义,但在许多死亡事件与 AI 相关联以及我们正冲向灭绝级风险时,这完全说不通。

The industry needs to mature ASAP.

行业必须尽快成熟。

Elaborating on iterative deployment – obviously you should learn from experience the things that can’t be learned without experience.

阐述迭代部署——显然,你应该从经验中学习那些没有经验就无法学到的东西。

The issue is when you ship things with *already-known* flaws, in a way that doesn’t actually speed up learning but just speeds up shipping.

问题在于,当你以实际上并未加速学习而是仅加速发布的方式,推出具有*已知*缺陷的产品时。

… Also, as usual it bears repeating that this is not just an OpenAI issue.

……此外,像往常一样,值得重申的是,这不仅仅是 OpenAI 的问题。

roon (OpenAI): you shouldn’t regret it. iterative deployment was a massive success. if we’ve now learned that it’s too dangerous to scale much further, we will have learned that lesson thanks to the process of iterative deployment

roon (OpenAI):你不应该为此感到遗憾。迭代部署取得了巨大成功。如果我们现在已经学到,进一步扩展规模过于危险,那么我们将通过迭代部署的过程学到这一教训。

Miles Brundage: So I think part of the issue is people mean tons of different things by it lol if it just means “don’t sit on stuff forever/get some real world experience,” sure, no regrets.

Miles Brundage:所以我认为问题的一部分在于,人们对此有着各种各样的含义,哈哈。如果它仅仅意味着“不要永远坐着不动/去获得一些现实世界的经验”,当然,没有遗憾。

It’s the “giving license to sloppiness” part that I should have realized would happen w/ that term.

我本应该意识到的是,那个术语会带来‘为粗心大意提供借口’的部分。

Michael Caley: this is by far the best “I quit my AI job over safety concerns” essay yet because it is the first one that talks about safety concerns in practical terms and that understands “safety” as a topic with extensive literature and best practices in analogous fields

Michael Caley:迄今为止,这是最好的关于‘因安全顾虑而辞去AI工作’的文章,因为它是第一篇以实际方式讨论安全顾虑,并将‘安全’理解为具有大量文献和类似领域最佳实践的主题的文章

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