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OpenAI解雇三名安全研究员,引发内部信任危机

OpenAI Fires Three Safety Researchers

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涉及头部大厂核心安全团队的人事震荡与治理争议,直接影响行业对AI安全治理有效性的评估,值得从业者关注其后续影响。

Three OpenAI safety researchers, Tomek Korbak, Mikita Balesni and Jasmine Wang, were fired, ostensibly for ‘mishandling sensitive company information.’

三位 OpenAI 安全研究人员 Tomek Korbak、Mikita Balesni 和 Jasmine Wang 被解雇,表面上是因为“处理敏感公司信息不当”。

Those employees have published an open letter. The employees have said they believe they were fired for safety advocacy, and that the reasons given were pretextual.

这些员工发表了一封公开信。他们表示,他们认为自己是因倡导安全而被解雇,且给出的理由是借口。

The letter calls upon OpenAI to take actions going forward on open discussion and safety auditing, which OpenAI says they strongly support.

这封信呼吁 OpenAI 在未来采取关于开放讨论和安全审计的行动,OpenAI 表示他们强烈支持这一点。

OpenAI responded, saying there was an additional breach of trust that was not mentioned in the employee statements, without claiming that the employees were (or were not) informed of what it was. As you would expect given OpenAI’s track record, most outside of OpenAI who discussed this believe the researchers and not OpenAI. Whereas those at OpenAI have not offered comment at all.

OpenAI 回应称,存在员工声明中未提及的额外信任破裂问题,但并未声称这些员工(或未被)告知具体是什么。鉴于 OpenAI 的历史记录,正如你所料,大多数在 OpenAI 之外讨论此事的人认为错在研究人员而非 OpenAI。而 OpenAI 内部人员则完全没有发表评论。

No matter what happened, and how this is handled from here, this sucks bigly. OpenAI has three less good safety researchers. Trust will be lower. Speech will be chilled.

无论发生了什么,以及此后如何处理,这都糟透了。OpenAI 少了三名优秀的安全研究人员。信任度会降低。言论会受到抑制。

Table of Contents

目录

  • You’re Fired.
  • The Initial Statement from OpenAI.
  • Earned Skepticism.
  • Some Highly Reasonable Requests.
  • Chilling Effect.
  • OpenAI Firing These Employees For Safety Advocacy Would Be Deeply Stupid.
  • Why Were They Fired?
  • Tomek Korbak.
  • Mikita Balesni.
  • Jasmine Wang.
  • Operational Security Alert.
  • OpenAI Responds.
  • A Significant Breach of Trust.
  • No One Is Buying OpenAI’s Non-Explanations.
  • 你被解雇了。
  • OpenAI 的初始声明。
  • 应得的怀疑。
  • 一些非常合理的请求。
  • 寒蝉效应。
  • 如果 OpenAI 因安全倡导而解雇这些员工,那将是非常愚蠢的。
  • 他们为什么被解雇?
  • Tomek Korbak。
  • Mikita Balesni。
  • Jasmine Wang。
  • 运营安全警报。
  • OpenAI 回应。
  • 严重的信任破裂。
  • 没人买 OpenAI 那些非解释性说法的账。

You’re Fired

你被解雇了

All three had expressed alarm recently on Twitter:

这三人都最近在 Twitter 上表达了担忧:

Jasmine Wang: It’s hard to overstate how dangerous speeding towards RSI is.

Jasmine Wang:强调加速迈向 RSI(递归自我改进)的危险性怎么都不为过。

That’s why I + 1385 others signed the pacing the frontier petition asking the US government to pace AI development. I’m guesstimating this is ~8-10% of all frontier lab employees.

这就是为什么我加上另外 1385 人签署了‘控制前沿’请愿书,要求美国政府放缓 AI 发展步伐。我估计这约占所有前沿实验室员工的 8-10%。

Mikita Balesni: I am at OpenAI and i think AI is >10% likely to kill all humans

Mikita Balesni:我在 OpenAI 工作,我认为 AI 有超过 10% 的概率导致全人类灭绝。

this proposal [to avoid neuralese] is among the top things we should do as an industry to lower that risk (it’s not enough though!)

这项[避免使用神经语]的提案是我们作为行业降低该风险的最重要举措之一(尽管这还不够!)

Tomek Korbak: I’m quite unhappy with much of what OpenAI does.

Tomek Korbak:我对 OpenAI 所做的许多事情感到非常不满。

I am very happy that I’m allowed to say “I’m quite unhappy with much of what OpenAI does.”

我非常高兴我被允许说“我对 OpenAI 所做的许多事情感到非常不满。”

These are legit researchers who were at the center of safety efforts. OpenAI firing them is a tragedy, whether or not OpenAI was justified in firing them, or was effectively forced to do so. Tomek Korbak in particular had also been one of the louder OpenAI voices of concern about recent alignment difficulties with Astra and its lack of monitorability.

这些是合法的研究人员,他们曾处于安全工作的中心。OpenAI 解雇他们是悲剧,无论 OpenAI 解雇他们是否合理,或是是否被有效迫这样做。特别是 Tomek Korbak,他也是关于 Astra 近期对齐困难及其缺乏可监控性担忧的 OpenAI 最响亮的声音之一。

Nathan Calvin: Tomek and Mikita were the lead authors of the extremely influential Chain of Thought Monitorability paper. Them leaving OpenAI (and if the WSJ story is referring to them, not by their own volition) right when safety monitorability is collapsing is terrible.

Nathan Calvin:Tomek 和 Mikita 是极具影响力的《思维链可监控性》论文的主要作者。他们在安全可监控性崩溃之际离开 OpenAI(如果 WSJ 的报道指的是他们,而非出于自愿),这是糟糕透顶的。

Sneha: When I think about the biggest OpenAI safety developments of the last few months, a few things come to mind: “pacing the frontier”, the METR-Redwood Hugging Face investigation, and ongoing efforts to push a cross-lab monitorability standard. Jasmine, Tomek, and Mikita were central to literally every single one of those things.

Sneha:当我想到过去几个月 OpenAI 最大的安全发展时,脑海中浮现出几件事:“前沿节奏控制”、METR-Redwood Hugging Face 调查,以及推动跨实验室可监控性标准的持续努力。Jasmine、Tomek 和 Mikita 在这些事情中无一例外都居于核心地位。

From what I can tell, they pushed their company to be better internally and defended their company when they thought external criticisms were unfair or overblown.

据我所知,他们推动公司内部变得更好,并在他们认为外部批评不公平或夸大其词时为公司的利益辩护。

Their impact goes way beyond OpenAI alone. I think the public + definitely all current OpenAI staff deserve an ironclad case for why the company had no choice but to fire these three vital safety employees in one go.

他们的影响远远超出了 OpenAI 本身。我认为公众以及所有现任 OpenAI 员工都应该得到一个铁证如山的案例,说明公司为何别无选择,只能一次性解雇这三名至关重要的安全员工。

The Initial Statement from OpenAI

OpenAI 的初步声明

We were given an official statement, but it did not say much.

我们收到了一份官方声明,但它并没有说太多。

Keach Hagey, Maxwell Zeff and Berber Jin (WSJ): OpenAI has parted ways with three researchers for allegedly sharing confidential company information with a third-party AI-safety organization, according to people familiar with the matter.

Keach Hagey、Maxwell Zeff 和 Berber Jin(华尔街日报):据知情人士透露,OpenAI 已与三名研究人员分道扬镳,原因是他们涉嫌向第三方 AI 安全组织泄露机密公司信息。

… “We have parted ways with three individuals for violating our policies on accessing and handling sensitive company information,” said an OpenAI spokesperson in a statement. “Our investigation confirmed that these individuals mishandled sensitive information outside established company procedures, violating our policies and breaking the trust essential to our work.”

……一位 OpenAI 发言人在一份声明中表示:“我们因违反访问和处理敏感公司信息政策而与三名个人分道扬镳。”“我们的调查证实,这些个人在既定公司程序之外处理不当敏感信息,违反了我们的政策,并破坏了对我们工作至关重要的信任。”

OpenAI also said that the misconduct went past sharing information with an outside analysis firm, and that no one was fired for raising safety concerns. They declined at the time to name the fired employees. ​

OpenAI 还表示,不当行为不仅限于与外部分析公司共享信息,且因提出安全担忧而无人被解雇。他们当时拒绝透露被解雇员工的姓名。

We don’t know, from that description, where this lands from ‘fired the whistleblowers on a pretext’ to ‘holy hell, you cannot do that, yes we actually have to fire you.’ There is mishandling information, and then there is mishandling information.

仅从该描述中,我们无法判断这究竟属于‘以借口解雇吹哨人’还是‘天哪,你不能这么做,是的,我们确实必须解雇你’。处理信息不当有轻重之分。

We still don’t have a public explanation beyond OpenAI’s initial statement. There are many reasons that could be the case. Some are benign. Others are not.

除了 OpenAI 的初步声明外,我们仍没有公开的进一步解释。造成这种情况的原因有很多。有些是无心的,有些则不然。

Earned Skepticism

earned skepticism(earned skepticism)

It was very reasonable of many to assume until proven otherwise, given the track record of OpenAI and the lack of further explanation, that it was that first one.

鉴于 OpenAI 的记录以及缺乏进一步解释,在得到证实之前,许多人合理地假设情况就是第一种。

Remember that Leopold Aschenbrenner credibly claims he was fired from OpenAI on a pretext for taking security concerns to the board, and there are many other cases that at least rhyme with the current one.

请记住,Leopold Aschenbrenner 有可信地声称他因向董事会提出安全关切而被 OpenAI 以借口解雇,还有许多其他案例至少与当前事件类似。

The incident with Leopold might be impacting this one. Leopold says he was told, very explicitly, the action that got him fired. That made OpenAI look worse, not better.

Leopold 的事件可能会影响本案。Leopold 称他被非常明确地告知了导致他被解雇的行为。这让 OpenAI 的形象更差,而非更好。

Pamela Mishkin (Formerly OpenAI): If you’re at OpenAI (or any lab!), I hope you’re thinking carefully about what you work on now. You can be fired any moment and the company can reneg on its commitments around where/how your research is deployed.

Pamela Mishkin(前 OpenAI 员工):如果你身在 OpenAI(或任何实验室!),我希望你仔细思考你现在从事的工作。你可能随时被解雇,公司也可能违背关于你的研究如何部署的承诺。

Now is a great time to pace. Take a long lunch, call your mom, call me!

现在是放慢节奏的好时机。吃顿长长的午餐,给你妈妈打电话,给我打电话吧!

Systems like embedded evaluators actually working depend on safety researchers having clear lines of trust with exec and those evaluators.

嵌入式评估器等系统的有效运作,实际上取决于安全研究人员与高管及这些评估器之间拥有清晰的信任关系。

These firings are a clear effort to undermine the actual efficacy of the “commitments” labs have made and have a chilling effect on any employee dissent.

这些解雇行动显然是为了削弱实验室所作出的‘承诺’的实际效力,并对任何员工异议产生寒蝉效应。

girish sastry (Formerly OpenAI): OpenAI has been here many times. It throws around vague explanations, expecting the story to fade from institutional and public memory.

girish sastry(前 OpenAI 员工):OpenAI 已经多次发生此类事件。它抛出模糊的解释,指望故事从机构记忆和公众记忆中淡去。

We will never have perfect information about situations like this. Once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, a zillion times is… OpenAI.

我们永远无法对这类情况拥有完美的信息。一次是偶然,两次是巧合,亿万次就是……OpenAI。

Some Highly Reasonable Requests

一些高度合理的请求

We learned from a WSJ report that the three fired OpenAI employees were calling for additional safety measures around preserving chain-of-thought monitoring, and that they (as one would expect) take issue with OpenAI’s characterization of the firings:

我们从《华尔街日报》的报道中得知,三名被解雇的 OpenAI 员工呼吁采取额外的安全措施以保留思维链监控,并且他们(正如人们所预期的那样)对 OpenAI 对解雇行为的定性表示异议:

Maxwell Zeff (WSJ):

Maxwell Zeff(《华尔街日报》):

Three fired OpenAI employees called on the company to work with outside safety auditors and to preserve the ability to monitor increasingly sophisticated AI models as it grapples with how to best manage the novel risks of its technology.

三名被解雇的 OpenAI 员工呼吁该公司与外部安全审计机构合作,并在应对技术带来的新型风险时,保留对日益复杂的 AI 模型进行监控的能力。

In a letter addressed to OpenAI board members and safety committees, which was reviewed by The Wall Street Journal, the fired employees wrote that they were concerned artificial-intelligence companies could end up losing the ability to monitor AI systems’ chain-of-thought.

在一份提交给 OpenAI 董事会成员及安全委员会、并经《华尔街日报》审阅的信件中,这些被解雇的员工写道,他们担心人工智能公司最终可能会失去对 AI 系统思维链(chain-of-thought)的监控能力。

We now have the full letter.

我们现在有了这封完整的信件。

Here are their parting recommendations to OpenAI:

以下是他们对 OpenAI 的部分离职建议:

  • OpenAI must adhere to last month’s public commitments to embed third-party
  • safety auditors within the organization. Our firing should not be used as a pretext for stepping away from those partnerships.
  • OpenAI must preserve the monitorability of frontier models.
  • OpenAI must continue to support an open and transparent culture of dialogue
  • between its safety researchers and the rest of the safety ecosystem.
  • OpenAI 必须遵守上个月做出的公开承诺,将第三方
  • 安全审计人员纳入组织内部。我们的解雇不应成为背离这些合作伙伴关系的借口。
  • OpenAI 必须保持前沿模型的可见性(monitorability)。
  • OpenAI 必须继续支持一种开放透明的对话文化,
  • 在其安全研究人员与安全生态系统的其他部分之间展开对话。

They go into more detail in the full letter. Everyone I respect on these matters fully agrees with these recommendations.

他们在完整信件中进行了更详细的阐述。我在这些问题上尊重的所有人都完全同意这些建议。

So does OpenAI, or at least they are strongly saying that they agree.

OpenAI 也是如此,或者至少他们强烈表示同意。

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