Karpathy:LLM能力认知鸿沟正在扩大
The gap in shared understanding of LLM capability is widening
Karpathy用数据拆解了LLM认知的分层现状,揭示了技术落地与大众感知的错位,对判断市场成熟度极具参考价值。
Andrej Karpathy
@karpathy
Dusting off this tweet from April because this gap in shared understanding of LLM capability is *widening*. It's now less "two groups of people speaking past each other" and more a sharp funnel. - Napkin math somewhere around 6B people (~75% of the population) have barely come in contact with LLMs at all. - Around 1-2B (~20%) are casual and infrequent users of free-tier ChatGPT-like products. This group sees derpy chatbots and treats them a bit like a better Google search, a writing aid, or etc. Maybe an agent tries to book you a flight. I have non-tech friends who (reasonably, imo) say they have not much use for it at all. Even many professionals outside of math&code are in this tier. For example, execs and many other functions spend a lot of their time talking to other people, so while they understand what is happening intellectually, it is still second-hand and a bit abstract. - Now we get to professional use of frontier-grade LLMs in math&code. Somewhere around 20M people (0.2%) see first-hand that large, complex projects that used to take them weeks/months can now be completed by agents with a prompt. Building apps, copying apps, translating apps, decompiling apps from binaries... This has all happened very quickly and recently - less than 1 year ago, I was writing code manually by hand, typing memorized computer code commands into a code editor character by character, occasionally pressing Tab to autocomplete a little chunk of code. - And finally we get to the ~5,000 people (~0.00006%) with access to frontier-grade systems internally. The external world has seen the preview. It looks like swarms of thousands of agents collaborating over weeks on software mega projects: minting zero days, running cyber attacks and defenses at machine speeds, discovering new science, advancing the frontier of mathematics. Things that would have taken top professionals in the industry years of work. Meanwhile, human review and comprehension are starting to fall behind. For example, people are still involved in the "archeology" of the OpenAI-HF incident from many months ago. Mathematicians may be poring over the 722 manuscripts on frontier mathematics for a while. The funnel is driven by a combination of factors: 1. The impact scales with ambition, problem size, and horizon. A question with a paragraph answer barely stresses the system. You need a reservoir of big, difficult problems that you really care about. This aspect drives the consumer / professional dimension of the funnel. 2. The jaggedness of the system (which I have written about a lot separately). Capability peaks in domains that are digital, verifiable and economically valuable. This is because LLM capability emerges from reinforcement learning on verifiable rewards on a curated environment mixture driven by revenue potential. This aspect primarily drives the area (e.g. math&code) dimension of the funnel. 3. Access. Free-tier, paid-tier, internal. So this is the weirdness of the moment. The general public has mostly not interacted with these systems. When they have, it looks like a derpy chatbot. The majority of professionals still see only a modest uplift. And a small sliver of professionals are experiencing the vertigo of the curve going vertical. And it is all happening at the same time.
翻出这条四月份的推文,因为人们对大语言模型(LLM)能力的认知差距正在*扩大*。现在的情况已不仅仅是“两组人各说各话”,而更像是一个急剧收窄的漏斗。- 粗略估算,约60亿人(约占人口的75%)几乎从未接触过 LLM。- 约10至20亿人(约占20%)是免费层级 ChatGPT 类产品的偶尔或轻度用户。这群人看到的是笨拙的聊天机器人,并将其视为比 Google 搜索更好的工具、写作辅助等。也许有个代理试图帮你预订机票。我有非技术背景的朋友(在我看来很合理)表示他们完全用不上它。甚至许多数学与代码领域之外的专业人士也属于这一层级。例如,高管和许多其他职能人员花费大量时间与他人交谈,因此虽然他们在智力上理解发生了什么,但这仍然是二手且略显抽象的体验。- 现在我们进入前沿级 LLM 在数学与代码领域的专业应用。约有2000万人(占0.2%)亲眼目睹了曾经需要数周或数月才能完成的大型复杂项目,如今只需通过提示词即可由代理完成。构建应用、复制应用、翻译应用、从二进制文件反编译应用……这一切都发生得非常迅速且近期才出现——不到一年前,我还在手动编写代码,逐字符将记忆中的计算机代码命令输入到代码编辑器中,偶尔按下 Tab 键自动补全一小段代码。- 最后,我们来到约5000人(约占0.00006%),他们内部可以访问前沿级系统。外部世界看到了预览版。看起来像是成千上万的代理协作进行软件大型项目:挖掘零日漏洞、以机器速度运行网络攻击与防御、发现新科学、推进数学前沿。这些曾需要行业顶尖专业人士数年工作的事情。与此同时,人类审查和理解能力开始落后。例如,人们仍在处理几个月前 OpenAI-HF 事件的“考古”工作。数学家们可能还需要一段时间来研读那722份关于前沿数学的手稿。这个漏斗是由多种因素共同驱动的:1. 影响范围随雄心、问题规模和视野而扩展。一个只需一段话就能回答的问题 barely 给系统带来压力。你需要一个真正关心的、庞大且困难的问题储备库。这一方面驱动了漏斗的消费者/专业维度。2. 系统的锯齿状(我曾在其他文章中详细论述过)。能力在数字化、可验证且具经济价值的领域达到峰值。这是因为大语言模型的能力源于对经过策划的环境混合体上的可验证奖励进行强化学习,而该环境混合体由收入潜力驱动。这一方面主要驱动了漏斗的领域(例如数学与代码)维度。3.访问权限。免费层、付费层、内部使用。因此这是当下的奇特之处。普通大众大多尚未与这些系统互动。当他们有过互动时,看起来就像一个呆萌的聊天机器人。大多数专业人士仅看到适度的提升。而一小部分专业人士正经历着曲线垂直上升带来的眩晕感。而且这一切都在同时发生。
Andrej Karpathy
安德烈·卡帕西(Andrej Karpathy)
@karpathy
Apr 9
4月9日
Judging by my tl there is a growing gap in understanding of AI capability. The first issue I think is around recency and tier of use. I think a lot of people tried the free tier of ChatGPT somewhere last year and allowed it to inform their views on AI a little too much. This is Show more
根据我的时间线来看,人们对 AI 能力的理解差距正在扩大。我认为第一个问题围绕近期性和使用层级。我认为很多人去年尝试过 ChatGPT 的免费层,并让它过多地影响了他们对 AI 的看法。这显示更多
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