法国国债收益率飙升至2012年以来高位,市场担忧债务危机蔓延
France’s Bond Crisis Deepens, US Jobs Data on Deck
法国主权债务利差创十余年新高,直接冲击欧洲宏观定价与汇率逻辑,且伴随跨资产流动性预期变化(美债利率预期修正),是本周必须关注的系统性风险点。
Good morning. How you doing? It's Friday the second. French bonds are starting the day. 140 basis points over Germany. 0808 futures on signaling any recovery. The next big risk events around half an hour. The European cash open. And then US payrolls are a little later on this afternoon. Trump percent a third carrier group to the Persian Gulf. Pay attention to that and hold the pumpkin pie. It looks like anthropic wants to IPO before Thanksgiving.
早上好。大家好?今天是周五第二天。法国国债今日开盘,较德国国债高出140个基点。0808期货信号显示任何复苏迹象。下一个重大风险事件将在半小时后出现:欧洲现金市场开盘。随后美国非农就业数据将在今天下午稍晚公布。特朗普将第三航母战斗群派往波斯湾。关注这一动向并稳住阵脚(hold the pumpkin pie)。看起来Anthropic希望在感恩节之前上市。
Counter guy, let's put some numbers on that French story to start with. This is the French ten year yield 4.9%. The budget yesterday didn't seem to do enough to calm nerves around the French fiscal situation. And so we watch that spread, as Guy pointed out, 140 basis points more than that over German buttons. Will it widen today? What will the new data today mean for that spread? What happens to euro dollar in that context?
Counter Guy,让我们先给这个法国故事加上一些数据。这是法国十年期收益率,4.9%。昨天的预算似乎未能足以安抚市场对法国财政状况的担忧。正如Guy所指出的,我们密切关注这一利差,它比德国国债高出140个基点。今天它会扩大吗?今天的新数据对该利差意味着什么?在这种情况下欧元兑美元会如何表现?
There's talk in the market of 1 to 2 month puts being bought around the single currency Euro 50 futures for the moment. Up a 10th of a percent. Part of this the effect of some dovish language from the fed yesterday that calmed nerves in U.S. stocks. Is that enough for European stocks though? In the face of a bond selloff account, the countdown to the opening trade starts right now. Good morning. Happy Friday. So investors have drawn their conclusion France is the new problem child for Europe.
市场上有传言称,投资者正在买入针对单一货币欧元50期货的1至2个月看跌期权。目前上涨0.1个百分点。这部分原因是美联储昨天发表了一些鸽派言论,缓解了美股市场的紧张情绪。但这足以提振欧洲股市吗?面对债券抛售潮,开盘交易倒计时现在开始。早上好。周五快乐。因此,投资者已得出结论:法国已成为欧洲新的问题儿童。
With that spread, you have to go back to 2012 to see a spread of this level 141 over the benchmark German. So you put all the debt load together a France corporate household and sovereign, and you're looking at debt to GDP of around 324%, 324%, only behind Japan. When you put that in the global context, Nomura saying that that spread could get to 200, 200 for German bonds by the end of 2027. Where are we in this journey?
要看到如此水平的利差——基准德国国债之上141个基点——你得回到2012年。将法国的企业、家庭和政府债务加总来看,其债务占GDP比重约为324%,仅低于日本。在全球背景下,野村证券表示,到2027年底,该利差可能达到对德国国债200个基点的水平。我们在这段旅程中处于什么位置?
Are we getting closer to a crisis point? Are we getting closer to a point where the ECB has to act? Maybe not 5% versus 7% to the eurozone debt crisis, but people are starting to draw parallels now, fairly or unfairly, with Greece. That's what we all know. So yeah, how far does it go? 200 basis points. Where does when does what does it become a crisis? Is this a crisis yet? I don't know. Could it still be averted? I don't know, uh, the market is basically selling first and asking questions later.
我们是否正接近危机点?我们是否正接近欧洲央行必须采取行动的时刻?也许不是像欧元区债务危机时那样从5%升至7%,但人们现在——无论公平与否——开始将其与希腊进行比较。这是我们众所周知的。那么,事态会发展到何种程度?200个基点?在何时、何种情况下会演变为危机?这已经是危机了吗?我不知道。是否仍有可能避免?我不知道。市场基本上是先抛售,后提问。
We've reached that point. This feels like a different mentality associated with France. Previously, we've kind of stretched and stretched, and it's never felt like it's going to go kind of into the crisis phase we have. It feels like we've reached that. There's a different point being reached this year. Is there any off ramp here we use? The off ramp I think is also crucial. We've referenced the ECB. Is it is it something that they can do.
我们已经到了那个阶段。这感觉像是与法国相关的一种不同心态。以前,我们一直在不断拉伸,但从未感觉会进入我们现在所处的危机阶段。感觉我们已经达到了那个临界点。今年正在达到一个不同的节点。这里有没有我们可以使用的退出机制?我认为退出机制也至关重要。我们提到了欧洲央行(ECB)。这是他们能做的事情吗?
Is it something the French government can do? What they did yesterday didn't seem to do the trick when it comes to the budget. And interesting to get the international investor perspective here. One portfolio manager in Tokyo I noticed in our, you know, in our reporting this morning saying if they take tough action on the deficit, that means obviously pensions and welfare and things that it increases the chance that you get more extreme parties in the mix in French politics next year.
这是法国政府能做的事情吗?就预算而言,他们昨天所做的似乎并没有奏效。在这里听取国际投资者的观点很有趣。我注意到今天早上我们的报道中提到,东京的一位投资组合经理表示,如果他们在赤字问题上采取强硬行动,那显然意味着养老金和福利等方面的削减,这将增加明年法国政治中出现更极端政党的可能性。
And so if that international investor feeling a little bit paralyzed as to how this is broken before we get to those French elections in less than a year, does it cause contagion? I think there's also the risk. Does it stay in France? Will stay that what starts in France? Does it stay in France? In Greece it didn't. So it started in Greece and then spread around the periphery. Do we see something similar happening here?
因此,如果这位国际投资者感到有些不知所措,不知道在我们不到一年后的法国大选之前如何打破这一僵局,这会导致传染吗?我认为也存在这种风险。它会局限于法国吗?始于法国的事情会停留在法国吗?在希腊并非如此。所以它始于希腊,然后蔓延到周边国家。我们会看到类似的情况在此发生吗?
Is Europe going to be treated like France's, or are we going to differentiate between different countries in Europe? Where is it going to leave the UK? That much stress? Is there going to be there? It was interesting dynamics on both markets yesterday. Oh eight spreads widening also Italian spreads. So those two often do go together, rightly or wrongly. France, the UK and Germany showed the other side of that trade. So?
欧洲是会把法国当作整体对待,还是会对欧洲的不同国家进行区分?这对英国意味着什么?会有那么大的压力吗?那里会有这样的压力吗?昨天两个市场的动态都很有趣。O8利差也在扩大,意大利利差也是如此。所以这两者通常是一起走的,无论对错。法国、英国和德国则展示了这笔交易的另一面。所以呢?
So that's something to keep in mind in terms of where it goes next. But euro contagion also means something to within the eurozone. There's a lot of talk about whether this is now the dominant driver for the the sunset implications of this euro at a 16 month low versus the US dollar, evidence that CDs, credit default swaps are starting to look a little bit more vulnerable. They started to peek, uh, in Europe as well.
因此,在考虑下一步走向时,这一点值得牢记。但欧元区的传染效应也意味着欧元区内部的问题。人们广泛讨论这是否现在是主导因素,导致欧元兑美元的汇率跌至16个月低点,以及信用违约互换(CDS)开始显得略微脆弱。它们也开始在欧洲出现峰值。
Uh, and, and and whether or not this, this is, this is a concern. If you look at the bank stocks yesterday heavily hit and particularly in France. Yeah. So the next big risk the open. What's that. In around 20 minutes time will start to get some of the data I think coming through payrolls come later. And what I think is interesting yesterday you saw a rally in treasuries. Treasuries actually had a better day. Now there's some money may be flowing across the Atlantic, but there were a whole bunch of other reasons as well.
嗯,而且,而且这是否是一个值得关注的问题。如果你看看昨天银行股遭受重创的情况,尤其是在法国。是的。所以下一个重大风险是开盘。那是什么?大约20分钟后,我们将开始收到一些数据,我认为就业人数报告稍后会公布。而我认为有趣的是,昨天你看到国债出现反弹。国债实际上表现更好。现在可能有一些资金跨过大西洋流动,但当然也有其他一系列原因。
And we go into payrolls, I think, with only 30% priced in terms of the next meeting, which is an extraordinary shift this week. Look at what's happening in Europe versus the US from 70% at the beginning of this week, pricing a hike in October to 30%. Now, I suppose that the market has done a lot, hasn't it. But but but certainly in Europe, maybe less so in the States. Let's have a look at what we are talking about in the Middle East.
在进入就业数据之前,我认为只有30%的概率定价了下次会议的结果,这是本周的一个巨大转变。看看欧洲与美国的情况对比:从本周一开始的70%概率定价10月加息,到现在降至30%。现在,我想市场已经做了很多工作,不是吗。但在欧洲,也许在美国不那么明显。让我们来看看中东正在讨论什么。
You were mentioning in your headlines the fact that the U.S. is, according to U.S. officials, readying to deploy an additional aircraft carrier to the Middle East, along with the the manpower that goes with that, that would take them back to three carriers. And this ties in, of course, with those who are thinking that maybe after the midterms, we get a pivoting President Trump's strategy. And of course, it sent oil prices higher, up by 4% in just Thursday.
你在标题中提到,据美国官员称,美国正准备向中东部署一艘额外的航空母舰,以及随之而来的人员配置,这将使他们的航母数量恢复到三艘。这当然与那些认为在中期选举后,特朗普总统的战略可能会发生转变的观点相吻合。当然,这也导致油价上涨,仅在周四就上涨了4%。
But it's not just oil prices we're watching. Diesel is very much at the epicenter of this, and no doubt we'll have more news lines around this from a European perspective soon, because we've heard very little from Europe on diesel. We've heard a lot from the U.S. they're putting a lot of pressure on European leaders. It seems to release diesel from their stockpiles. But there is a meeting today amongst European diesel interests.
但我们关注的不仅仅是油价。柴油正处于这一事件的核心位置,毫无疑问,我们很快会从欧洲视角听到更多关于柴油的新闻,因为关于柴油,我们从欧洲听到的信息非常少。我们从美国听到了很多,他们正对欧洲领导人施加很大压力,要求他们释放战略储备中的柴油。但今天欧洲柴油利益相关方举行了一次会议。
So we will see. This is the trade though isn't it. We either do a diesel ban or you release diesel. Like it seems fairly logical in terms of the way that the US is looking at it, but this is the product cost right now. What's the product cost if we get an escalation? Because yes, this could be posturing in terms of moving 10,000 additional troops and another aircraft group into into the Middle East, potentially three and an amphibious group as well, including amphibious assault troops.
所以我们将拭目以待。这本质上是一场交易,不是吗。要么实施柴油禁令,要么你们释放柴油。从美国的角度来看,这似乎相当合乎逻辑,但这是目前的产品成本问题。如果我们局势升级,产品成本会是多少?因为是的,这可能只是姿态性的举动,比如向中东增派1万名士兵和另一个航母战斗群,甚至可能还包括一个两栖攻击群,包括两栖突击部队。
Is this posturing or is this and they being briefing on this? Is this a Trump administration preparing to go heavy again on Iran in terms of military action after the midterms? That's what they've been signaling. And now they're actually putting assets in place to be able to allow them to do that, should they choose to do that. Should we talk about technology? Because, I mean, one of the many reasons and, you know, we were counting at least ten earlier on this week.
这是摆姿态还是他们在就此进行简报?这是特朗普政府准备在中期选举后再次对伊朗采取大规模军事行动吗?他们一直在发出这样的信号。而现在他们实际上正在部署资产,以便在他们选择这样做时能够执行该行动。我们要谈谈技术吗?因为,我的意思是,众多原因之一,而且你知道,我们本周早些时候至少数出了十个。
One of the many reasons we see higher yields is this competition for capital. And that continues. Uh, yeah. Anthropic IPO. Yeah. Potentially before before Thanksgiving with 2 trillion valuation 2 trillion okay. So more equity coming. That's that's the story with the anthropic story. Broadcom looking to raise 60 billion to help anthropic. More debt coming. Okay. So it's basically doing that to try to raise money so that it can fund more chips.
我们看到收益率走高的众多原因之一是资本竞争。这种情况仍在持续。嗯,是的。Anthropic IPO。是的。有可能在感恩节之前以2万亿美元的估值上市,2万亿美元,好吧。所以会有更多的股权进入市场。这就是Anthropic的故事。Broadcom寻求筹集600亿美元以帮助Anthropic。更多的债务即将出现。好吧。所以基本上是在这样做,试图筹集资金,以便为更多芯片提供资金。
Um Amazon looking to offload um was it 8 billion uh of chips into an SPV effectively. So more SPV is coming more off balance sheet. So you got more equity coming. Got more debt coming. And we've got more opaq
嗯,亚马逊正寻求将大约80亿美元的芯片剥离到一个特殊目的实体(SPV)中。所以会有更多的SPV出现,更多的表外业务。所以你有更多的股权进入市场。有更多的债务进入市场。而我们还有更多的不透明性
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