OpenAI指控Moonshot提取其模型数据
OpenAI Accuses Moonshot of Extracting Data From AI Models
9AM in Shanghai, Shenzhen and here in Hong Kong. You're watching The China Show. I'm Yvonne Man with David Ingles. Good morning. Let's get to your top stories today. Asian stocks slipping to begin this new quarter after a late drop into the close in Wall Street, erasing gains sparked by this tepid inflation numbers. Yet bonds in Oz and New Zealand tracking the move lower in treasuries. OpenAI accuses Chinese rival moonshot of extracting data from its AI models, adding to Silicon Valley's claims of large scale Chinese distillation.
北京时间上午9点,上海、深圳以及香港的时间。您正在收看《中国秀》。我是伊冯·曼,与大卫·英格尔斯一起为您播报。早上好。让我们来看看今天的首要新闻。亚洲股市在新季度伊始小幅下滑,此前华尔街在收盘前出现下跌,抹去了由疲软通胀数据引发的涨幅。与此同时,澳大利亚和新西兰的债券走势跟随美国国债走低。OpenAI指控中国竞争对手月之暗面从其AI模型中提取数据,这加剧了硅谷方面关于大规模中国知识蒸馏行为的指控。
Also ahead, passengers averts disaster on a flydubai flights after a pilot stabs his colleague, reviving debate about the need for cockpit video recording. Plus will be live from Bloomberg Screen Time in Los Angeles, with the Netflix co-CEO Ted Sarandos joining us, along with some big names there as well. Yeah, it's not much of a try to show today. I got to tell you. Golden week is underway. So certainly we're seeing both how going China is shot.
此外,在一架Flydubai航班上,一名飞行员刺伤同事后乘客成功避免灾难,这一事件重新引发了关于驾驶舱录音必要性的辩论。稍后我们将通过彭博屏幕时间从洛杉矶进行直播,Netflix联合首席执行官泰德·萨兰多斯将与我们连线,现场还有一些重量级人物。是的,今天的节目确实没什么太多可展示的。我得告诉你们,黄金周正在进行中。所以我们确实在观察中国市场的表现。
So we've got to talk about other things right. We can also talk about coated O'Brien and Ben Affleck coming on to talk about that. It's a good chance to talk about that. But yes markets we're starting off the quarter not too golden at this point. No. Uh no. And I think what's interesting is obviously because of we are entering this new quarter, we were up against month and quarter and overnight, which I guess goes a long way to explain why, uh, the headline on markets today is really that massive closed lower, uh, in the U.S. session there's a micron earnings micron earnings that will unpack better.
所以我们有必要谈谈其他话题。我们也可以聊聊科特·奥布莱恩和本·阿弗莱克来讨论那部电影。这是个谈论它的好机会。但没错,市场方面,我们在这个季度的开局并不太“金光闪闪”。不,呃,不。我认为有趣的是,显然因为我们进入了这个新季度,我们要面对月度、季度和隔夜的表现,我想这在很大程度上解释了为什么今天市场头条真的是大幅下跌。在美国交易时段,微芯科技(Micron)的财报将提供更清晰的解读。
Uh, you had some issues around the margin uh unimpressed as far as markets go. But I think, you know let's give it some time for markets to digest what had happened. Because the commentary from the scene is really, really good set of earnings. It's showing up across some, uh, big names here in the Asia Pacific. As far as data goes on, the I sorry South Korea exports word again another banner explosive I guess you could say.
嗯,你在利润率方面遇到了一些问题,就市场而言表现平平。但我认为,你知道的,让市场花些时间来消化所发生的事件吧。因为来自现场的评论显示出一组非常出色的财报。这些业绩在亚太地区的一些大公司身上有所体现。就数据而言,呃,抱歉,韩国出口数据再次强劲爆发,我猜你可以这么说。
Right. More than 100% gains for the month. So certainly does that add to this whole robustness when it comes to AI boom and demand picture there, what it means for the chip sector in particular. So certainly that could be adding in terms of beneficiary to of course the chip space here today, uh cost is slightly better, but we are seeing quite a bit of movement in Japan here. The Nikkei 225 up about 1.5%. Yes. The survey was decent right.
没错。月度涨幅超过100%。因此,这肯定增加了人工智能热潮和需求前景的整体稳健性,这对芯片行业意味着什么。因此,这当然有助于增加芯片板块的受益者。今天成本略有改善,但我们看到日本市场有相当大的波动。日经225指数上涨约1.5%。是的。调查数据还不错,对吧。
It was better than the last quarter's read. I think we went from 22 to 24 on the large manufacturers gauge. Slightly missed expectations there. I think what's interesting to is on the exchange rate where you do have corporates still expecting a weaker, uh, the Japanese yen to remain, uh, on the weaker side. I think that takes me into the just one last note here. The dollar is coming out of the best month. Uh, going back to March, we the last few days and then move into.
表现优于上一季度的读数。我认为大型制造商指数的数值从22升至24。略低于预期。有趣的是汇率方面,企业仍预计日元将保持疲软态势。这让我想到最后一点备注。美元结束了表现最好的一个月。回顾三月,我们在过去几天有所变动,然后进入下一阶段。
We managed to edge uh, the June uh, gain there so that 2% uh, and exchange rates on your screens. Uh, in a moment, we'll also talk about the fixed income space, which, by the way, the 30 year yield is again starting to exhibit some weakness against it. Uh, to the upside. But yeah, back to the, uh, the big earnings story from overnight micron earnings, adjusted sales and revenue, just over 54.25. Uh to the upside there.
我们勉强将六月的涨幅推至2%左右,屏幕上的汇率数据如此。稍后,我们还将讨论固定收益领域,顺便提一下,30年期收益率再次表现出对上涨方向的疲软迹象。但回到隔夜美光(Micron)财报这一重大盈利故事,调整后销售额和营收略高于542.5亿美元,表现优于预期。
Earnings also climbing in 33 four. Uh when you break things down Dram and NAND you have about 40 B on DRAM and NAND closer to about 14 B um rounding down as far as that's concerned, not much reaction in the after hours trade. But when you look at what the street is saying and what the CEO is saying, as far as some of the sort of, uh, more qualitative, uh, takeaways from the numbers themselves, uh, it does seem that the memory story continues to be a strong one through into 2028.
每股收益也在33.4美元攀升。细分来看,DRAM和NAND部分,DRAM约为400亿美元,NAND更接近140亿美元,就此而言向下取整。盘后交易反应平淡。但当你观察华尔街的说法以及CEO的表态,就数字本身得出的一些定性结论而言,存储故事似乎一直持续到2028年都依然强劲。
Yeah, that certainly seems to be. There's a bit more runway in this whole, uh, you know, memory chip cycle. In some ways, that's certainly what we heard from the micron CEO saying that, you know, they deliver record fiscal 2026 results. Expect an even stronger fiscal 2027. And memory, he says, enhances the intelligence and the competitiveness of our customers platforms. Uh, the call from the street is this Rise City was talking about.
是的,情况确实如此。整个存储芯片周期还有更多的上升空间。某种程度上,这正是我们从美光CEO那里听到的信息,他表示公司实现了创纪录的2026财年业绩,并预计2027财年将更加强劲。他还表示,存储技术增强了客户平台的智能性和竞争力。华尔街的共识正如Rise City所讨论的那样。
Yes, these are better than expected results. The guidance was also good here amid the sort of robust AI demand. So that certainly should help the Korea side of this trade here this morning too. Yeah. Vital knowledge also coming in here the qualitative commentary on supply demand is bullish. Uh the backlog is growing. And again this underscores the the visibility through 2028. Uh let me just wrap things up with the comment coming through out of Zacks Investment Research.
是的,这些结果好于预期。在强劲的AI需求背景下,指引也表现良好。因此,这肯定也有助于今天早间韩国市场的走势。是的。Vital Knowledge也在此提供了关于供需的定性评论,观点看涨。积压订单正在增长。这再次凸显了直至2028年的可见度。让我以来自Zacks投资研究(Zacks Investment Research)的评论来结束讨论。
Micron crushed earnings expectations across the board it stocks to reaction perhaps how Wall Street investors likely already expected a bit, but also the need to increase worker pay, right? Compensation. Yeah, that was really what could lead to maybe that margin outlook. Why not? The company is doing well. Yeah. You got to pay your workers. Right. Okay. Um, let's have a look at how this is playing out across markets today here in the Asia Pacific.
美光(Micron)的业绩全面超出预期,其股价反应或许反映了华尔街投资者原本就有所预期的情况,但也反映出增加员工薪酬的需求,对吧?也就是补偿。是的,这确实可能是导致利润率前景变化的原因。为什么不呢?公司经营状况良好。没错。你得支付员工薪水。对。好的。嗯,让我们看看今天亚太市场的情况。
The markets that are are open of course. And Anthony's here, but it's uh, we look at the some names here Anthony. Yeah. What's been really interesting in the early going in Asia is how muted the reaction is in Korea. Was this kind of the joy in Japan? And one of the reasons for that is that Korea has gotten more muted over time. That is a kind of a short term shareholder revolt against the fact that there isn't it isn't a, uh, kind of a program of shareholder return that goes with the extraordinary profits that the memory space is having.
当然,目前开放的市场包括……安东尼在这里,但我们来看看这里的一些个股,安东尼。是的。亚洲早盘走势中真正有趣的是韩国市场的反应相当平淡。这是日本市场的喜悦吗?其中一个原因是韩国的反应随着时间的推移变得愈发平淡。这在某种程度上是对股东回报计划缺失的一种短期股东反抗,尽管存储行业正获得巨额利润。
So you seeing that again play out, Samsung is flat on the day versus sharp almost full. And SoftBank is up three. So there's a huge divergence. And I flip the board. And you can kind of graphically see why that is the case. We see that career and earnings have just absolutely exploded to the upside, but dividends have not followed. So you've seen earnings explode here on the blue line. But the dividends are just pretty much where they're always been.
所以你又看到了这种分化:三星当天持平,而另一家几乎全涨;软银上涨3%。因此存在巨大的分歧。我切换一下图表,你可以直观地看到原因所在。我们看到收入和利润绝对大幅向上飙升,但股息并未随之增长。所以你看到蓝色线条上的利润大幅飙升,但股息基本保持在原有水平。
And that speaks to some of this Korean discount uh kind of concerns. And that's really correct. The picture for the positivity in Korea. The volatility has come right off after the boom times in July. Correct. And it has not recovered even though the index has recovered. You contrast that to Japan. You flip the board and you see every time there is a positive news that comes out of the tech space, the Japanese stocks react.
这也解释了部分韩国折价担忧的原因。这一点确实正确。韩国积极面的图景在七月繁荣期后波动性已消退。没错。尽管指数已经恢复,但波动性尚未完全恢复。将其与日本对比,你切换图表就会看到,每当科技领域出现利好消息,日本股市就会做出反应。
On the upside, that is what the kind of optimism in Japan is about. That's why the Nikkei is so strong and the gains are pretty much across the board. On the Japanese stocks today we see the advantage. It's almost up seven. We have big gains in laser tech which is a testing and kind of uh, chip making tool, uh provider. It's just across the ecosystem. The money is actually flowing through to shareholders in Japan, and that's driving this dispersion.
向上的走势正是日本乐观情绪的体现。这就是日经指数如此强劲、涨幅普遍广泛的原因。在今天日本股市的表现中,我们看到了优势。它几乎上涨了7%。激光技术(laser tech)板块大涨,这是一家提供测试和芯片制造工具的公司。整个生态系统都受益于此。资金实际上正在流向日本的股东,这正是推动这种分化的原因。
There is still about a 30% gap between Japan and Korea. And let's see how much of that it closes. Anthony. Thank you. Anthony Stephens there are Bloomberg Markets reporter joining us for the latest. And of course, let's bring in Mark Cranfield now from our live team for more on these markets. Their market it's a slow start of the quarter here. What's going to be some of that you're looking out for here for Q4. Yeah I think is exactly what Anthony was saying there.
日本和韩国之间仍有约30%的差距。让我们看看它能缩小多少。安东尼,谢谢。彭博社市场记者安东尼·斯蒂芬斯也加入了我们的直播。当然,现在让我们连线现场团队的马克·克兰菲尔德,了解更多关于这些市场的动态。这里的季度开局比较缓慢。在第四季度,你们关注哪些重点?是的,我认为这正是安东尼刚才所说的。
People are going to be looking for the continue what the eye theme looks as though it's making a recovery. It's now just a question of who are the who are the winners going to be in this next phase. So microns kicked off a period here. What do you some Japanese names are doing very well off the back of that. And we're likely to see some some follow through as the Taiwanese markets get going today. And then as we look
人们将关注该主题是否持续呈现复苏态势。现在的问题变成了:在这一下一阶段,谁将成为赢家?因此,美光科技(Micron)率先开启了这一周期。在此之后,一些日本公司的表现非常出色。随着台湾股市今天开始交易,我们可能会看到一些后续跟进。然后,当我们展望
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