Robinhood推出AI Agent应用及24/7交易功能
Robinhood Markets CEO Vlad Tenev Talks AI-Driven Agent Apps | Bloomberg Talks
Robinhood将AI代理直接嵌入核心交易流程并提供全天候交易能力,改变了散户的交易基础设施与工具边界,值得关注其商业化落地及对活跃交易者的影响。
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Joining us now live from that summit is the chairman and CEO of Robin Hood, Vlad Tenna. Vlad, great to have you back on the program. Uh, you said last night that you're basically putting the power of hedge funds into every trader's pocket. Explain that.
现在从该峰会现场连线的是罗宾汉(Robin Hood)董事长兼首席执行官弗拉德·坦纳(Vlad Tenna)。弗拉德,很高兴你再次回到我们的节目。嗯,你昨晚说你基本上是把对冲基金的力量放进了每个交易者的口袋。请解释一下。
That's right. I mean, we are in unprecedented times. uh you you hear that said a lot, but super intelligence is changing how we create and how we do everything. and Robin Hood, we're focused on the financial aspect of this and what what can happen if you plug if you safely plug in this super intelligence into your Robin Hood account and we take all of the capabilities that Robin Hood offers, which we announced 16 new ones last night, but think of it as the ability to trade any asset 24/7.
没错。我的意思是,我们正处于前所未有的时代。嗯,你经常听到人们这么说,但超级智能正在改变我们创造事物和做任何事情的方式。在罗宾汉,我们专注于这一领域的金融方面,以及如果你将超级智能安全地接入你的罗宾汉账户,会发生什么。我们利用了罗宾汉提供的所有功能——我们昨晚宣布了其中16项新功能——但你可以将其视为全天候(24/7)交易任何资产的能力。
And we're really building the infrastructure for that. And with uh Robin Hood agents, we can now plug uh Frontier intelligence into all these assets and allow your intelligence to to help you trade these things. We also introduce agent apps which allow you to plug in unique data sources. So things like unusual whales, token terminal, um satellite, we have satellite imagery where you can actually tap into real time satellite views of parking lots if you want to import that into your trading strategy.
我们正在为此构建基础设施。通过罗宾汉智能体(agents),我们现在可以将前沿智能(Frontier intelligence)接入所有这些资产,并让你的智能帮助你来交易这些资产。我们还推出了智能体应用(agent apps),允许你接入独特的数据源。例如异常鲸鱼活动、Token Terminal、卫星图像等;我们有卫星图像功能,如果你愿意,可以实时获取停车场的卫星视图,并将其导入你的交易策略中。
And and we also have the ability to run agent loops. So these are autonomous runs where the agent can actually perform actions for you in your Robin Hood account while you're sleeping. Uh so we're we're very excited about what this unlocks and it's really just about making it clear to our active traders who are the foundation of our business that you're at a disadvantage trading anywhere besides Robin Hood.
此外,我们还具备运行智能体循环(agent loops)的能力。这意味着自主运行的智能体可以在你睡觉时,在你的罗宾汉账户中为你执行操作。我们对由此解锁的可能性感到非常兴奋,这主要是为了让我们作为业务基础的活跃交易者清楚地认识到,除了在罗宾汉之外,你在任何地方交易都处于劣势。
Well, I am curious uh specifically on the agent uh on the agent apps. I mean, how are you making money off that? Is that from subscriptions or just a share of the agent app fees? I mean I mean what's the what's the direct uh financial benefit to you? Yeah. So there's like three different potential monetization paths that you can think of here. One is just subscriptions. So these app developers uh are charging subscriptions and they're actually offering deals where you know you get you get free usage for the first month and you know in some cases through Robin Hood agent apps or marketplace uh you can save money ra it's not just easier to integrate with Robin Hood in your trading but you can actually save money compared to getting the subscription directly or elsewhere.
嗯,我特别好奇关于智能体应用的部分。我的意思是,你们如何从中赚钱?这是来自订阅费,还是仅仅收取智能体应用费用的一部分?我的意思是,这对你们直接的财务收益是什么?是的。这里有三种不同的潜在变现路径可以考虑。第一种就是订阅。因此,这些应用开发者会收取订阅费,并且他们实际上提供优惠方案,你知道的,第一个月免费使用,而且在某些情况下,通过罗宾汉智能体应用或市场,你可以省钱。这不仅意味着与罗宾汉集成更容易,而且与直接在其他地方获取订阅相比,你实际上可以节省资金。
So there's a subscription and we take uh a piece of that for operating the marketplace. There's also just the trading activity which we monetize normally on our platform uh and and we get that and then for now uh we're we're offering free usage uh through OpenAI of GPT6 Luna till the end of the year. Uh but there's also monetization on the AI model serving layer if you're using you know one of the one of the premium models that costs money.
因此,我们有一个订阅服务,并从中抽取一部分作为运营市场的费用。此外,还有交易活动,我们通常在平台上对此进行变现。目前,我们通过 OpenAI 免费提供 GPT6 Luna 的使用权直到年底。不过,在 AI 模型服务层也存在变现方式,如果你使用的是需要付费的高级模型之一。
Talk a little bit more about what the users are actually going to see when they use this um trading agent. Do they just see the completed order or do they get a little bit of insight into the rationale behind you know every single trade? What is the model looking at? Um what kind of risk limits is this agent looking at? Yeah, and you know, if you uh we gave a pretty cool demo of all this. So, if the viewers want to get in deeper, we I encourage you to check that out.
再多谈谈用户在使用这个交易代理时实际会看到什么。他们只会看到已完成的订单,还是能获得关于每笔交易背后逻辑的些许洞察?模型在看什么?这个代理考虑了哪些风险限制?是的,而且我们知道,我们之前展示了一个非常酷的演示。如果观众想深入了解,我鼓励你们去查看那个演示。
But basically, what this is is it's a separate account. So, for those of you that have Robin Hood, we allow you to separate your assets into multiple accounts. Of course, we have your main Robin Hood account, but we also have retirement. We have joint accounts. We now offer trusts. And we've introduced an Aentic account, which is like a separate money bucket away from your retirement, away from your main brokerage account.
但基本上,这是一个独立的账户。所以,对于那些拥有 Robin Hood(Robinhood)的用户,我们允许你将资产分离到多个账户中。当然,我们有你的主 Robin Hood 账户,但我们也有退休账户、联名账户。我们现在提供信托账户。我们还推出了一个 Aentic 账户,它就像一个独立的资金桶,与你的退休账户和主要经纪账户分开。
And you can choose to move money into an Agentic account. And you can think of it as like a financial sandbox, you know, to make sure that your agent doesn't go and just trade all of your money. you have to make affirmative moves to actually move money and assets into the Aentic account. By default, trade approvals are on. So, you'll you'll approve every trade that the agent wants to make. But if you want, you can turn that off.
你可以选择将资金转入 Agentic 账户。你可以把它想象成一个金融沙盒,以确保你的代理不会随意交易你所有的资金。你必须采取主动操作,才能实际将资金和资产转入 Aentic 账户。默认情况下,交易审批是开启的。所以,你会批准代理想要进行的每一笔交易。但如果你想关闭,也可以这样做。
And then you also have agent loops where you can essentially create uh loops where the agent periodically does does its analysis, runs the strategy, and decides whether to trade. And that allows you to operate your agent even when you're not looking at your Robin Hood app like when when you're sleeping. Um because now you know equity markets are going to be 24/7 starting with Robin Hood first. So you'll always be able to capture opportunities.
然后,你还有代理循环(agent loops),你可以在其中创建循环,让代理定期进行分析、运行策略,并决定是否进行交易。这允许你在不看 Robin Hood 应用的情况下操作你的代理,比如当你睡觉的时候。因为现在你知道,从 Robin Hood 开始,股票市场将变为 24/7 全天候交易。所以你将始终能够捕捉机会。
Well, I do I want to just ask you though about the liability and I did look at the disclosure and it's very clear that the uh that the the liability risk at least for right now uh for losses still rests with the the user rather than Robin Hood itself. But have you uh talked with your tech team about this idea of whether the agents uh and and the technology be behind it maybe hallucinates uh and does the wrong ticker or or basically does something that the user did not intend it to do?
好的,我想问一下关于责任的问题。我确实查看了披露信息,非常清楚目前至少对于损失而言,风险仍由用户承担,而非 Robin Hood 本身。但你们是否与技术团队讨论过这个想法:即代理(agents)及其背后的技术可能会产生幻觉(hallucinate),调用错误的股票代码,或者基本上执行了用户未意图的操作?
Does that loss or potential loss still fall on them or would Robin Hood actually bear uh some of that uh some of that responsibility? Yeah, I mean uh I guess without going into like the legal nature of this question, uh what I'll tell you is we've spent a lot of effort and time making sure we mitigate the risk of hallucination and not not just hallucinations in the core models which have been improving but also making sure that it calls Robin Hood services through well-defined tool calls and and there's actually a lot of engineering on what's called the harness layer, which is the layer that goes around the model and connects it to our system to make sure that only allowed tool calls uh are are made possible.
这种损失或潜在损失是否仍由他们承担,还是 Robin Hood 实际上会承担部分责任?是的,我的意思是,如果不深入探讨这个问题的法律性质,我会告诉你,我们投入了大量精力和时间来确保减轻幻觉的风险。这不仅涉及核心模型的改进(其幻觉问题正在改善),还涉及确保通过明确定义的工具调用(tool calls)调用 Robin Hood 的服务。实际上,在所谓的“护栏层”(harness layer)上做了大量工程工作,该层包裹在模型周围并将其连接到我们的系统中,以确保仅允许进行特定的工具调用。
We spend a lot of effort, you know, making that really really robust and making sure that, you know, the the reliability is is uh up to our standard. Um and you know again there's trade approval so you can monitor what the what the agent is doing. Uh there there's also we're investing more in predictable determinism so that the the outputs are interpretable and uh we should also say that this isn't our first Aentic product.
我们投入了大量精力,你知道的,使这一层非常稳健,并确保可靠性达到我们的标准。此外,还有交易审批流程,你可以监控代理正在做什么。我们还投资于可预测的决定性(predictable determinism),以便输出结果具有可解释性。我们也应该指出,这并非我们首个 Aentic 产品。
We rolled out Aentic trading a few months ago and we've had over 150,000 customers using it and actually building things and uh this is an extension of that. Of course, it's going to be much bigger now that it's inside the Robin Hood app, but I think we're building increasing confidence that these tools are not just powerful and open new capabilities, but but they're also uh they're also safe. And we believe that through our guard rails, we can actually introduce these products to users in a way that is safe and and also useful.
我们在几个月前推出了 Aentic 交易功能,已有超过 15 万用户使用它并实际构建相关应用,而这正是该功能的延伸。当然,现在它集成在 Robin Hood 应用程序中,规模将会大得多。但我认为,我们正在建立越来越多的信心,证明这些工具不仅强大且开启了新的能力,而且也是安全的。我们相信,通过我们的护栏机制,我们可以以安全且有用的方式将这些产品引入给用户。
All right, Vlad. Well, appreciate you taking time away from the summit down there in Houston. Vlatt Tennith, chairman CEO of Robin Hood.
好的,Vlad。感谢你从休斯顿的峰会中抽出时间。Vlatt Tennith,Robin Hood 董事长兼首席执行官。
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