习近平三年来首次访美,特朗普联合国大会周日程密集
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You think street traffic is bad at UN General Assembly Week in New York? Why not just add a bunch of headache at the airport on top of it?
你觉得纽约联合国大会周期间的街头交通很糟糕?为什么不干脆在机场再增加一堆头痛的问题呢?
No, thank you.
不,谢谢。
A lot of dignitaries and their supporting staff are trying to make their way to New York for the meetings uh this week and that could indeed uh be a bit of a complicating factor. Of course, President Trump also is going to be heading to New York this afternoon. He's got a big week ahead of him. Uh Joe, we expect he could be meeting with leaders of the Gulf States with Ukrainian President Vladimir Zalinsky, but he's going to start this week start today meeting with the mayor of New York City, Zaramani. of course a member of the democratic socialists of America as the president has often criticized socialists and communist as he says they are.
许多政要及其随行工作人员正试图在本周前往纽约参加会议,这确实可能成为一个复杂的因素。当然,特朗普总统今天下午也将前往纽约。他接下来的一周日程繁重。乔,我们预计他将与海湾国家领导人会面,并与乌克兰总统弗拉基米尔·泽连斯基会晤,但他将从今天开始先与纽约市市长亚当·济尔巴尼(Zaramani)会面。当然,作为美国总统,他经常批评社会主义者和共产主义者,称他们为“美国民主社会主义者”的成员。
He's going to be sitting down with one at Gracie Man.
他将在格雷西大厦(Gracie Mansion)与其中一人坐下来会谈。
I wasn't sure they were still pals uh anymore but this the optics will be interesting here and we will likely see it because of local news coverage not dependent upon the White House press corps that'll be a little bit later on in the afternoon. Uh but look to Kayle's point this could be the most important week geopolitically speaking of his second term when you think of the meetings he has Macron today onto Zalinsky and back to Washington where he's got the summit with President Xi couple of themes we'll be going straight through them both of course the war with Iran artificial intelligence is another one and ahead of our conversation uh with our political panel and a bit later on this hour Congressman Don Byer Tyler Kendall is in New York Bloomberg's Washington correspondent charged with covering the president's trip to ANGA and joins us live from world headquarters in New York.
我不确定他们是否还是朋友了,但这里的视觉效果将很有趣,我们很可能会看到这一幕,因为当地新闻报道不依赖于白宫记者团——那将是下午稍晚些时候的事情。嗯,但要关注凯尔的观点:从地缘政治角度来看,这可能是他第二个任期内最重要的一周,考虑到他今天的会议对象包括马克龙、泽连斯基,以及回到华盛顿后与习近平主席的峰会。我们将直接探讨两个主题,当然还有与伊朗的战争、人工智能是另一个主题。在我们的政治小组讨论之前,以及本小时稍后的节目中,众议员唐·拜尔、泰勒·肯德尔目前在纽约,他是彭博社驻华盛顿记者,负责报道总统访问联大(ANGA)的行程,并刚刚从位于纽约的全球总部加入我们直播。
Uh Tyler, the speech is tomorrow, right? And we will see that because the UN will uh obviously have its own cameras in the room there, but what's the president's goal at this United Nations? He spoke last year more about the teleprompter uh and the escalator than I think in many cases policy. What's on the agenda? Well, at this point, Joe, there are so many different conflicts that we know President Trump is going to be looking to make some sort of momentum or progress in.
呃,泰勒,演讲是明天对吧?我们会看到,因为联合国显然会在现场架设自己的摄像机,但总统在联合国的目标是什么?去年他讲话时,我觉得比起政策,他更多提到了提词器和电梯。议程上有什么内容呢?嗯,乔,目前有许多不同的冲突,我们知道特朗普总统正试图在这些方面取得某种势头或进展。
Whether or not that happens remains to be seen, but just look at the bilateral meetings that he has teed up. Uh, as you mentioned, on the public schedule today, a closed press meeting with the French president, Emanuel Macron, as we wait to see what sort of response we could get from Europe in terms of of the ongoing conflict between Ukraine and Russia. Zalinsky himself says that he will have some time with President Trump tomorrow.
这是否会发生还有待观察,但只需看看他安排的双边会晤即可。正如你提到的,今天的公开日程中有一场与法国总统埃马纽埃尔·马克龙(Emmanuel Macron)的闭门记者会,我们正等待看欧洲在对乌克兰和俄罗斯持续冲突问题上能给出何种回应。扎尔内(Zalinsky)本人表示,他明天将有机会与特朗普总统会面。
We're also expecting him to meet with uh Middle East regional leaders, potentially even from Saudi Arabia or Iran itself as President Trump seemed to suggest in an interview that he would be willing to meet with the Iranian president after the US took the rare step of uh issuing visas to Iranian officials to come to the UN this week to discuss dialogue. I'd also point out that uh he said to meet with the interim Venezuelan president Deli Rodriguez who is also here.
我们还预计他将与中东地区领导人会面,甚至可能与沙特阿拉伯或伊朗本身的高层会面,正如特朗普总统在一次采访中所暗示的那样,他表示愿意在美国罕见地批准伊朗官员本周前往联合国讨论对话后,与伊朗总统会面。我还要指出,他说还要会见临时委内瑞拉总统德利·罗德里格斯(Deli Rodriguez),他也在这里。
So it is a jammed pack agenda but perhaps looming over everything is that we are getting closer and closer to those talks on Thursday between President Trump and Chinese President Xi Jinping. And there's so many threads that we can pull on that connect these all together whether that be AI or energy or the conflict in the Middle East.
所以这是一个排得满满当当的议程,但或许笼罩在所有事项之上的是,我们正越来越接近周四特朗普总统与中国国家主席习近平之间的会谈。我们可以梳理出许多将这些议题联系在一起的线索,无论是人工智能、能源还是中东冲突。
Indeed. And of course, ahead of those talks on Thursday, the Treasury Secretary Scott Besson had talks in New York this past weekend with his Chinese counterpart. Tyler, do we have a sense of what they accomplished or is this another case of talking just to talk?
确实。当然,在周四会谈之前,财政部长斯科特·贝森(Scott Besson)上周末在纽约与其中国 counterparts 进行了会谈。泰勒,我们是否了解他们取得了什么成果,还是这只是另一种“为谈而谈”的情况?
Well, it's interesting because it depends on which officials we're listening to. We got really positive remarks from the US Treasury Secretary, Scott Bessant, who said uh that they made progress in these talks. We heard from Chinese state media saying that they were constructive and uh that they had agreed to keep talking that they were going to have this dialogue on artificial intelligence as one example. But then we had the US trade representative Jameson Greer on Bloomberg television earlier today and he seemed to downplay the idea that there would be significant progress this week.
嗯,这很有趣,因为取决于我们听哪位官员的说法。美国财政部长斯科特·贝森特发表了非常积极的评论,他说他们在这些谈判中取得了进展。我们从中国官方媒体那里听到,他们称谈判具有建设性,并同意继续对话,例如他们将就人工智能问题进行对话。但今天早些时候,美国贸易代表詹姆斯·格里尔在彭博电视上出现,他似乎淡化了本周取得重大进展的可能性。
He said that the goal is stability but he added in part that it would be quote naive to say US and China negotiators have full trust in each other. He also downplayed the idea that we will get an extension of the US China trade truce, saying there's a lot of time between now and November 10th when it's set to expire. So, a lot of different uh aspects here, but for now, they are talking and it seems that this weekend went well enough because we finally got that confirmation from the Chinese government that Xi Jinping will indeed come to Washington.
他表示目标是维持稳定,但他补充说,部分原因在于,声称中美谈判者彼此完全信任是“天真”的。他还淡化了我们将获得美中贸易休战期延长的可能性,表示从现在到11月10日休战期到期之前还有很长时间。因此,这里有很多不同的方面,但目前他们仍在交谈,而且这个周末似乎进行得相当顺利,因为我们终于从中国政府那里得到了确认,习近平确实将前往华盛顿。
Yes, indeed. Tyler Kendall live in New York for us this week for the UN General Assembly. Tyler, thank you very much. And now let's have an assembly as of our own as we assemble our political panel. Bloomberg politics contributors Rick Davis and Jeannie Shanzeno are with us. Rick of course Stonecourt Capital Partner and Republican strategist Jeannie Democratic analyst and democracy visiting fellow at Harvard Kennedy School's Ash Center.
是的,确实如此。本周泰勒·肯德尔将在纽约为我们现场报道联合国大会。泰勒,非常感谢你。现在让我们也召开一个属于我们自己的会议,组建我们的政治小组。彭博政治撰稿人里克·戴维斯和珍妮·尚泽诺与我们在一起。里克当然是斯通科特资本合伙人、共和党策略师;珍妮是民主党分析师,也是哈佛大学肯尼迪学院阿什中心民主访问研究员。
Rick, I'll come to you first as Joe uh characterized it and perhaps uh rightly so. This is a big week for President Trump. Do you see it as potentially the biggest one of his term? How much is riding on the next couple of days? Yeah, obviously uh when you array the various people that he's going to meet with uh you would think, wow, what opportunity is in front of us, but then when you think about what's probably going to be the outcomes, you think, oh, this is going to be a flat week.
里克,我先问你,正如乔所描述的那样,也许说得没错。这对特朗普总统来说是一个大周。你认为这可能是他任期内最大的一周吗?未来几天的结果有多重要?嗯,显然,当你列举他将会见的那些人时,你会想,哇,摆在我们面前的是什么机会,但当你想到可能产生的结果时,你就会想,哦,这将是一个平淡无奇的一周。
We're not we're going to be here Friday saying, "What happened?" Nothing. Um so, uh yeah, I mean, not likely to get any kind of an agreement out of the Iranians, you know, from a chance meeting in in New York. Uh you're going to mix a message with the uh with G. I mean, like Donald Trump's been campaigning against communism
我们不会在周五说:“发生了什么?”什么都没发生。嗯,所以,嗯,是的,我的意思是,不太可能从伊朗人那里达成任何协议,你知道的,仅仅是在纽约的一次偶然会面。嗯,你要向G传递混合信息。我的意思是,就像唐纳德·特朗普一直在竞选反对共产主义一样
since the day Mandani was elected and he's going to meet Mandani and they're going to have a bromance. Uh, so like what is the Republican party supposed to do? Here we go to Dallas. We have this big convention. It's all about, you know, not letting the communists take over America AND HERE COME THE COMMUNISTS. UH, so I I
自从曼达尼当选以来,他打算去见曼达尼,两人将发展出一种兄弟情谊。呃,那么共和党人该怎么办呢?我们要去达拉斯了。我们有一个大型大会。重点当然是不让共产主义者接管美国,结果共产主义者来了。呃,所以我我
He also isn't a communist. He's a socialist.
他也不是共产主义者。他是社会主义者。
Republicans are like scratching their head going like, "What are we supposed to be doing here?" So, who's this good for, Genie? The mayor obviously might get some points for this. Or will he? U We've talked a lot about Strange Bed Fellows. We knew at one point they were pals. Do they both have something to gain here?
共和党人挠着头想:‘我们到底该做什么?’ 那么,这对杰尼来说有什么好处呢?市长显然可能因此获得一些加分。或者他会吗?我们谈了很多关于‘同床异梦’的话题。我们知道他们曾经是朋友。他们双方是否都能从中获益?
I think so. But I'll tell you, the local press here, much of it is speculating that the bromance may be a little chillier this visit. Of course, that's speculation. We don't know. But it may be chillier than it has been in their last couple of meetings. You know, obviously this is this meeting is coming amidst the Jewish holidays as we see Benjamin Netanyahu coming to speak at the UN, not expected to meet with President Trump.
我认为可以。但我要告诉你,当地的媒体大多在猜测,这次访问中这种兄弟情谊可能会稍显冷淡。当然,这只是猜测。我们并不确定。但可能比他们最近几次会面时要冷淡一些。你知道,显然这次会议正值犹太节日之际,我们看到本雅明·内塔尼亚胡前往联合国发表演讲,预计不会与特朗普总统会面。
And yet, Mayor Manni famously argued that he would think about arresting and not allowing Netanyahu in New York City. He backed off of that. Um, so his um, you know, he's going to have a lot of pressure from his side. Donald Trump likewise is going to have a lot of pressure from his side. You know, somebody asked me and I think it's a great question. Hakeim Jeff must be pulling his hair out
然而,曼尼市长曾 famously 表示他会考虑逮捕并禁止内塔尼亚胡进入纽约市。后来他退回了这一立场。嗯,所以他这边会面临很大的压力。唐纳德·特朗普同样也会面临来自他那一方的巨大压力。有人问我一个问题,我觉得问得非常好。哈基姆·杰夫肯定急得直扯头发
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