Circle Allaire:Clarity法案未过但稳定币联邦法1月生效
Clarity Act Could Still Become Law, Says Circle's Allaire
You said last month that the remaining Clarity Act is very much resolvable. What changed? And was the fight over stablecoin rewards ultimately the issue that made us nonpassable? I mean, look. A a couple of quick things. I mean, a failed cloture vote is not that legislation is done. I think, you know, the genius act failed cloture vote as well and then went on to pass. And I think, you know, you you see a lot of interest across industry, across both sides of the aisle who who wanna get this done.
你上个月表示,剩余的《Clarity Act》(清晰度法案)在很大程度上是可解决的。发生了什么变化?围绕稳定币奖励的斗争最终是否成了导致我们无法通过该法案的关键问题?我的意思是,你看。首先说几点快速的情况。我的意思是, cloture vote(终结辩论投票)失败并不意味着立法就此结束。我认为,你知道,《Genius Act》(天才法案)也经历了 cloture vote 失败,但随后还是通过了。而且我认为,你会发现整个行业、两党都有很多兴趣想要推动此事落地。
And so I I think, the reaction of the this is over, etcetera. I just don't buy it. I that's not how politics works, and and, and people continue to work on things, and I and I think they will. So that's that's my kind of top line on that. Jeremy, I'd love to hear your thoughts just on the addressable market for stablecoin usage. I mean, how would you define that? What's the size of it? I mean, obviously, you know, I've seen people look at m two US money supplies, the $23,000,000,000,000 addressable Talk to us a little bit about the future of Circle, about the stablecoin market in general.
所以我认为,那种‘事情已经结束了’之类的反应,我完全不信。那不是政治运作的逻辑,人们会继续推进相关事务,我认为他们确实会如此。这就是我对这一点的大致看法。Jeremy,我很想听听你对稳定币使用场景的可触达市场(addressable market)的看法。我的意思是,你会如何定义它?它的规模有多大?我的意思是,显然,你知道,有人看过 M2 美元货币供应量,即 23 万亿美元的规模。请跟我们多谈谈 Circle 的未来,以及稳定币市场的整体前景。
Yeah. I mean, I think, the the first thing to note is that, you know, we we now have we actually have settled law. We have federal law, the Genius Act, which goes into effect in January. And as of January, digital dollars like USDC will be legal electronic money in The US financial system and therefore in the global financial system, and they will be able to be used by banks, in capital markets, by payments firms, by corporations.
是的。我的意思是,我认为首先要注意的是,我们现在有了既定的法律。我们有联邦法律《Genius Act》,将于明年一月生效。从一月起,像 USDC 这样的数字美元将成为美国金融体系乃至全球金融体系中的合法电子货币,因此银行、资本市场、支付公司和企业都可以使用它们。
Public companies will be able to use these like cash. And so and they have an incredible technological utility, and that technological utility continues to expand dramatically, including with, like, our new operating system, ARC, which which launches today. But the the core of this is that we now have this new form of a very safe, full reserve, digital currency money, and it will expand its use as the Internet, consumes more utility, as well.
上市公司将能够像使用现金一样使用这些数字资产。因此,它们具有极其强大的技术效用,而且这种技术效用正在大幅扩展,包括我们今天推出的新操作系统 ARC。但核心在于,我们现在拥有了这种新型非常安全、全额储备的数字法定货币,随着互联网带来更大的效用,它的使用范围也将随之扩大。
And so when we think about the TAM, they're sort of the existing TAM of essentially, you know, non interest bearing cash and demand deposits that exist in in money in the world today. That's about $60,000,000,000,000. And then there's all the utility for the use of that money. And I think, like other past Internet paradigms, when Internet infrastructure emerged that kind of, drove the cost of of doing things down to zero, the velocity of those things increased extraordinarily large.
因此,当我们考虑总可寻址市场(TAM)时,大致相当于当今世界上存在的无息现金和活期存款的现有 TAM。这大约是 60 万亿美元。此外还有这笔资金所带来的各种效用。我认为,就像过去的互联网范式一样,当互联网基础设施出现并将做事的成本降至接近零时,这些事物的流通速度会大幅增加。
And so our belief is that the transactional volume, the money velocity, and the utility of money will will will continue on an exponential curve primarily driven by these new very safe digital dollars. And so the TAM in terms of utility, we think, is much larger than the existing financial system. And then the TAM in terms of the monetary base and monetary supply, that is, you know, ultimately macro driven as well. But I think, this form of digital cash will be quite attractive and substitutional for other forms of electronic money that we have today.
因此,我们的信念是,交易量、货币流通速度以及货币的效用将继续沿着一条指数曲线增长,这主要由这些新型且非常安全的数字美元驱动。就效用而言,我们认为总潜在市场(TAM)比现有的金融体系要大得多。而就货币基础和货币供应量而言的总潜在市场,最终也是由宏观因素驱动的。但我认为,这种形式的数字货币将对我们要今天存在的其他形式的电子货币具有相当的吸引力和替代性。
Before we get to your new blockchain called ARC, actually, congratulations on that. I wanna stick a little bit with the Clarity Act. So if Congress doesn't give you the market structure bill that you're looking for, does that change Circle's strategy at all? Well, first of all, the most important legislation that we care about is federal law for stablecoins, and we passed that with broad bipartisan support last year.
在我们谈到你们新的区块链 ARC 之前,首先要恭喜你们。我想稍微多谈一点《Clarity Act》(清晰度法案)。如果国会没有提供你们所期望的市场结构法案,这会改变 Circle 的战略吗?嗯,首先,我们最关心的立法是关于稳定币的联邦法律,我们在去年以广泛的跨党派支持通过了该法律。
The Genius Act is now the rules are made aid by the Fed, by the OCC, by the major regulators. They're going into force in January. We have a national trust bank, Circle National Trust, which is gonna be a key part of the infrastructure of USDC. And so we will be in a incredible position to provide this technology, provide the actual digital dollars, and to service financial companies, corporations all around the world.
Genius Act(天才法案)的规则现在由美联储(Fed)、货币监理署(OCC)以及主要监管机构制定。它们将于明年一月生效。我们拥有一家全国信托银行——Circle National Trust,它将成为 USDC 基础设施的关键部分。因此,我们将处于一个绝佳的位置,能够提供这项技术、提供实际的数字美元,并为全球范围内的金融机构和公司提供服务。
So we don't need the Clarity Act for that. We have the law that we need to scale that part of our business. Now we do obviously care about, the development of trading markets and futures markets and, you know, there's a whole bunch of stuff that ultimately making sure things like DeFi can continue to grow and thrive. And I I think I share, I share Brian Armstrong's view on this, which is that, a, industry is just gonna continue to execute as they have.
因此,我们不需要《Clarity Act》来实现这一点。我们已经拥有了推动业务这一部分扩展所需的法律。当然,我们也关心交易市场和期货市场的开发,以及确保像 DeFi(去中心化金融)这样的东西能够继续成长和繁荣的其他诸多事项。我认为我和 Brian Armstrong 的观点一致,即:a,行业将继续按照他们一贯的方式执行;
The technology improvements are extraordinary. The velocity of that is extraordinary. And b, regulatory agencies have an incredible amount of capability to make sure that the rules are there. And I think over the next, period of time, you're just gonna see that deepen and harden and much broader financial market participation. This is an irreversible trend. It's accelerating. This is the best technology in the world for the future of the financial system, so that will move forward.
技术的进步是非凡的,其速度也是非凡的。b,监管机构拥有巨大的能力来确保规则到位。我认为在接下来的时期里,你只会看到这一点不断深化和巩固,以及更广泛的金融市场参与。这是一个不可逆转的趋势,正在加速发展。这是世界上最好的技术,用于金融系统的未来,因此它将不断向前推进。
And, whether we have, settled federal law in the next month, two months, three months, six months, or two years, this is an irreversible megatrend that is gonna completely reshape the financial system.
而且,无论联邦法律是在下个月、两个月、三个月、六个月还是两年内得以确立,这都是一个不可逆转的宏观趋势,它将彻底重塑金融体系。
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