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美议员称加拿大关税挤压密歇根制造业与汽车供应链

Rep. Haley Stevens Says Canadian Tariffs Are Squeezing Michigan

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One of those states in the crosshairs is likely to be Michigan where we find congresswoman Haley Stevens. Her district is right outside of Detroit. And, of course, she narrowly lost that Democratic primary for a very competitive senate seat, but we are glad to see you here this morning. We hope you've had your traditional Diet Coke. And I just wanna ask you, you know, your district has a lot of manufacturing. It has a lot of small businesses that do a lot of cross border things.

那些处于焦点的州之一很可能是密歇根,在那里我们会见了众议员海莉·史蒂文斯。她的选区就在底特律郊外。当然,她在竞争非常激烈的参议院席位民主党初选中以微弱劣势落败,但我们很高兴今天早上能见到你。我们希望你已经喝了传统的健怡可乐。我只是想问你,你知道,你的选区有很多制造业。那里有很多小企业从事大量的跨境业务。

What are constituents telling you, and and how concerned are they that this is gonna continue to escalate? You know, look. Our manufacturing sector here in Michigan, of which I am, a very close ally and partner with, has really been put through the wringer. You know, I'm a member of congress who's been serving four terms, And I will tell you, I have visited hundreds of small to midsize manufacturers. It is a part of my program, and they are exhausted.

选民告诉你什么,他们对此事继续升级的担忧程度如何?你知道吗,看。我们密歇根州的制造业部门,我与该部门关系密切,是它的坚定盟友和合作伙伴,真的经历了极大的磨难。你知道吗,我是一名担任了四届国会议员的代表,我会告诉你,我走访过数百家中小型制造企业。这是我工作的一部分,他们筋疲力尽。

They are really exhausted. And when you go through those indicators and and what the Trump administration is preparing to do with the the, oh my gosh, this the aluminum, the this, the that, Those are American companies, some of them over there. You know? And I don't know where they're you know, how they're making their way through. I mean, some of them are have American workers in them too. I mean, I think about Magna even.

他们真的筋疲力尽。当你审视这些指标以及特朗普政府准备采取的行动时——哦天哪,这个铝材,那个……那些都是美国公司,其中一些就在那里。你知道吗?我不知道他们是怎么,你知道的,怎么应对的。我的意思是,其中一些公司也有美国工人。我是说,我想到了麦格纳(Magna)。

That's not an aluminum company, but it's a key auto supplier. That's a Canadian company that also has huge enterprises in Metro Detroit. I love those guys. I've spent a ton of time with them, and we're just it's exhausting. And and I'm gonna tell you, we've been paying the price in our pocketbooks with job uncertainty and with pullback on investment, billions of dollars of investment lost in Michigan. And yet vice president Vance, he comes to Michigan, France is around.

那不是一家铝业公司,但它是一家关键的汽车供应商。那是一家加拿大公司,在大底特律地区也有庞大的企业。我喜欢那些人。我和他们花了很多时间交流,这真是令人疲惫。而且我要告诉你,我们正在为就业不确定性和投资撤回付出代价,密歇根州损失了数十亿美元的投资。然而,万斯副总统来到密歇根,法国人围在旁边。

He's he doesn't know anything about manufacturing. I do, and I can tell you these guys aren't right. Speaking of manufacturing, one of the very, very important industries in your state is the auto industry, of course. To what extent is that going to be affected by these tariffs, and and to what extent do you think that creates political risk for the Republicans? Well, look at the Wall Street Journal even saying that Ford Motor Company is being totally put on the line.

他什么都不懂制造业。我懂,我可以告诉你这些人不对劲。说到制造业,你所在州一个非常重要的行业当然是汽车行业。这些关税会在多大程度上影响它,以及你认为这在多大程度上会为共和党带来政治风险?嗯,看看《华尔街日报》甚至说福特汽车公司正面临全面考验。

You know, I was deeply proud to stand behind president Biden when we passed in a bipartisan way the CHIPS and Science Act. Yes. It was the effective use of taxpayer dollars. It was your taxpayer money that got a huge return on it. And now all we get from industrial policy from these guys is these erratic tariffs. We don't know what we're gonna wake up to. We didn't know what we were gonna wake up to for the first hundred days of this guy's administration.

你知道,当我们在两党支持下通过《芯片与科学法案》时,我深感自豪地站在拜登总统身后。是的。这是纳税人资金的有效使用。正是你们的纳税钱带来了巨大的回报。而现在,我们从这些人的产业政策中得到的只有这些反复无常的关税。我们不知道醒来时会面对什么。在这个人执政的前一百天里,我们也不知道会面临什么。

I mean, it was, you know, president Trump that is. And so I am worried about automotive. Magna is an automotive supplier, company. Bosch is as well. You know, I do a ton of work in the congress with aluminum that is, a an incredible sector of our supply chain. And yet, you know, here I'm gonna tell you, Windsor goes south to Detroit. I mean, you're going down the Detroit River. You know, the people take their boats out.

我的意思是,你知道,是特朗普总统。所以我担心汽车行业。麦格纳是一家汽车供应商公司。博世也是如此。你知道,我在国会就铝材做了大量工作,这是我们供应链中一个令人难以置信的部门。然而,你知道吗,温莎向南到底特律。我是说,你沿着底特律河下行。你知道,人们会把船开出去。

They look across. I mean, this is our way of life, and so it's very, very head scratching. And look. As someone who's got incredible legislation, and a program to lessen our dependence on China for critical minerals. And you got president Trump here not able to cut a deal with Canada. He just thinks he can bully them. Look. This guy campaigned in Michigan in '24 promising, oh, I'm gonna take on China. You know, I'm you know you know, I I'm gonna, you know, level the playing field with China.

他们向对岸望去。我的意思是,这就是我们的生活方式,所以这非常令人费解。而且看。作为一名拥有出色立法和计划以减少我们对关键矿物依赖的人。而特朗普总统在这里无法与加拿大达成协议。他只是认为他可以欺凌他们。看。这个人在2024年在密歇根州竞选时承诺,哦,我要对付中国。你知道,我知道你知道,我会,你知道,与中国公平竞争。

No. He's licked their bootstraps. They hold our country's debt. Our GDP is down as compared to the rate our debt is increasing. And this is just I was gonna say a bad word, but this is bleep backwards. Right? This is backwards. And and no one in Michigan was told by president Trump when he was campaigning that he was gonna start a trade war with Canada and lick the bootstraps of China. But that's what he's doing, and everyone running for office who calls himself a republican who's out there, you know, distracting on these other, you know, slogans and wins in the day, they own this.

不。他舔他们的靴子。他们持有我们国家的债务。我们的GDP相对于债务增长率的下降。而这只是……我差点要说个脏话,但这简直是倒退。对吧?这是倒退。而且在密歇根州,没有人被告知特朗普总统在竞选时要与加拿大发动贸易战并舔中国的靴子。但他正在这样做,而那些自称共和党人、在外面忙于其他口号和日常胜利的竞选者,对此负有责任。

They own this backwards trade agenda, and I'm sick and tired of it. So what happens if this doesn't get resolved before the New Year? I mean, the president has threatened to impose 50% tariffs on Canadian made motor vehicles starting January 1, but there's this example from Politico. I mean, I know this is familiar to you, but when you look at the Ford f series super duty trucks, right, big product for Detroit, a really popular, very expensive, high profit vehicle.

他们对这个倒退的贸易议程负有责任,我受够了。那么,如果新年前没有解决这个问题会发生什么?我的意思是,总统威胁从1月1日起对加拿大制造的机动车征收50%的关税,但这里有一个来自Politico的例子。我是说,我知道这对你来说很熟悉,但当你看到福特F系列超级-duty卡车时,对吧,这是底特律的大产品,一款非常受欢迎、价格昂贵且高利润的车辆。

The engine is made in Oakville, Ontario. The transmission comes from Ohio. The axles come from Michigan. There are a lot of trucks and vehicles that are manufactured like this. We're talking right now about the smaller and medium businesses. But for Detroit, which has had a good run the last couple years, could this compromise their recovery? Look. I'm sitting here in Oakland County, Michigan. It's a beautiful Sunday, Labor Day weekend.

发动机在安大略省奥克维尔制造。变速箱来自俄亥俄州。车轴来自密歇根州。有很多卡车和车辆都是这样制造的。我们现在谈论的是中小型企业的情况。但对于底特律来说,它在过去几年表现不错,这种状况会损害它的复苏吗?看,我现在坐在密歇根州的奥克兰县。这是一个美丽的周日,劳动节周末。

I'm gonna tell you just a little bit north of here. We've got the second busiest airport in Michigan. This is the Oakland County Airport. It doesn't have any of these consumer airlines coming in and out of it. You know why it's the second busiest? Freight. Automotive parts, the little widgets, the screws, the smaller parts that you can put on these planes that are going back and forth. Michigan, Canada. Michigan, Canada.

我就在这里以北一点点的地方告诉你。我们有密歇根州第二繁忙的机场。这是奥克兰县机场。它没有任何这些消费类航空公司进出。你知道为什么它是第二繁忙的吗?货运。汽车零部件、小零件、螺丝、你可以安装在往返飞机上的较小部件。密歇根,加拿大。密歇根,加拿大。

I mean, I'll tell you when I worked on the auto rescue, I worked with the tool and die folks. I mean, half of them were in Canada. I was on the horn with these guys around the darn clock. So, yes, these facts and figures that you were pointing out, it's out of touch. Our automakers look. I I don't I I'm not an employee of them. I'm a representative who cares deeply about good industrial policy. I know they don't wanna get in always to the political fray, but this is darn tooting concerning.

我的意思是,当我参与汽车救援工作时,我和模具工具方面的人一起工作。我的意思是,他们中有一半人在加拿大。我整天都在和这些人通电话。所以,是的,你指出的那些事实和数字,已经脱离实际了。我们的汽车制造商看,我……我不是他们的员工。我是一个关心良好工业政策的代表。我知道他们不想总是卷入政治纷争,但这确实令人担忧。

It really is. I mean, people are getting screwed. I'm just gonna tell you. They are. And in fact, these tariffs, you know, where's the revenues back to the consumer? Because they're not coming back to us. You know, some of these small businesses were able to apply, maybe get some back pay or a revenue check from the tariffs. Well, the taxpayer whose bills you know, if it's electricity or health care or food, that only goes up for these consumers, for these hardworking Michiganders.

这确实是。我的意思是,人们正在被坑害。我只是要告诉你。他们确实在被坑害。事实上,这些关税,你知道,收入回馈给消费者了吗?因为它们并没有回到我们这里。你知道,一些小企业能够申请,也许从关税中获得一些补发工资或收入支票。然而,纳税人的账单,比如电费、医疗保健或食品费用,只会上涨,对于这些消费者、这些辛勤工作的密歇根人来说。

You know, the middle class is getting choked out. They're sick and tired of it. And you know what? I I love the work I do. I was proud to compete for the senate. We you know, that one's over for me. But I will tell you, I'm gonna own these guys in Trump world every day for this backwards trade and tariff approach that is screwing people and our small businesses. So we've got a big, election coming up for the midterms, obviously, and you did not prevail in your, race with mister El-Eid.

你知道,中产阶级正在受到挤压。他们已经受够了。你知道吗?我爱我的工作。我很自豪能竞选参议员。你知道,那件事对我来说已经结束了。但我会告诉你,我要每天在特朗普的世界里揭露这些人,因为他们这种倒退的贸易和关税政策正在坑害人民和我们的小企业。所以我们即将迎来中期选举,显然,你在与埃尔-艾德先生的竞选中没有获胜。

I know you've been asked whether you'll campaign with him. I wanna ask you that. And I wanna also ask you about something that really had an impact in that race, which was the issue of Israel and also APAC funding. Do you think it's a disadvantage now to take money from APAC? Do you wish you hadn't? And just tell us your your plans for helping him out or not helping him out ahead of the the midterms. Well, I'll tell you this.

我知道有人问过你是否会与他一起竞选。我也想问你这个问题。我还想问你一个在那场竞选中产生重大影响的问题,那就是以色列问题以及APAC的资金问题。你认为现在接受APAC的资金是否处于劣势?你后悔接受了吗?请告诉我们你在中期选举前是打算帮助他,还是不打算帮助他。好吧,我告诉你这一点。

I am deeply proud to be a pro Israel Zionist two state solution advocate as a democrat. Right? I am very proud to have worked alongside some of the incredible people. There's APAC is full of 6,000,000 individuals. I will tell you I have long standing bonds with members of that organization. A lot of them are, frankly, Jewish moms, you know, who I've gotten to from, you know, all over the country and certainly here in Michigan, and a lot of just hardworki

作为一名民主党人,我为自己是一名支持以色列、主张两国方案的犹太复国主义者而感到深深的自豪。对吧?我非常自豪能与一些杰出的人士并肩工作。APAC拥有600万成员。我要告诉你的是,我与该组织的成员有着长期的联系。坦率地说,其中很多人都是犹太母亲,你知道的,她们来自全国各地,当然也包括密歇根州,而且她们都非常努力工

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