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Snowflake CEO:AI贡献半数营收增长,上调全年指引

Snowflake CEO Sridhar Ramaswamy Talks AI Fuels | Bloomberg Talks

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Snowflake财报核心数据与AI业务实质进展,直接关联美股科技股估值逻辑与竞争格局,建议关注后续季度AI变现效率。

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Let's speak to Snowflake CEO Shria Ramaswami. You've had three straight quarters of accelerating um product revenue growth and it seems a strange question. Good morning to you. Welcome to the show. How much of that is AI?

让我们与 Snowflake CEO Shria Ramaswami 谈谈。你们已经连续三个季度实现产品收入加速增长,这似乎是个奇怪的问题。早上好。欢迎参加节目。其中有多少是 AI 的贡献?

Hi Ed, good morning. Yeah, indeed this quarter was pretty amazing for us. $1.49 $49 billion uh in product revenue of 37% yearonear. Uh we are doing this while also expanding operating margin by 400 basis points to 15%. About half of the beat the over performance came from AI. And what's nice about this moment is that AI is actually driving a nice feedback loop because more customers are bringing data onto Snowflake using our AI products Koko and co-work to get things done which in turn is driving consumption on the platform which sets up this very nice flywheel of people wanting to do more with Snowflake and uh it's an effect that's pretty profound.

你好 Ed,早上好。是的,这个季度对我们来说非常惊人。产品收入达到 149 亿美元,同比增长 37%。与此同时,我们的营业利润率扩大了 400 个基点,达到 15%。超出预期的表现中,约有一半来自 AI。这一时刻的妙处在于,AI 实际上正在驱动一个良好的反馈循环,因为更多客户正使用我们的 AI 产品 Koko 和 Co-Work 将数据带入 Snowflake 以完成任务,这反过来又推动了平台上的消耗量,从而形成了一个人们希望用 Snowflake 做更多事情的良好飞轮效应,而且这种影响相当深远。

It also gives us confidence about where we are headed. That's why we raised the full year guidance by 5% to 36% for the year.

这也让我们对未来的发展方向充满信心。这就是我们将全年指引上调 5%,达到全年 36% 的原因。

What is Coco?

Koko 是什么?

Uh Koko is a coding agent for data. It comes as part of uh Snowflake. Uh I've used it to write software as well. But what it specializes in is any job that you want to do with Snowflake goes 5 to 10 times faster using Coco.

嗯,Koko 是一个面向数据的编码代理。它作为 Snowflake 的一部分提供。我也用它来编写软件。但它的专长在于,任何你想用 Snowflake 完成的工作,使用 Koko 都能快 5 到 10 倍。

Yeah, I was trying to I I know the answer. I was reading so much because the surprise that jumps out off the page, right, is the momentum. 2,000 accounts added in that quarter. The the the overall usage is really high in a market that is competitive. There are many coding agents out there. Why why do you think that Koko's standing out, Shreida?

是的,我试图……我知道答案。我读了很多资料,因为跃然纸上的惊喜就是势头。该季度新增了 2000 个账户。在竞争激烈的市场中,整体使用率确实很高。市面上有很多编码代理。你为什么认为 Koko 能脱颖而出,Shreida?

Because it's the easiest sell for Snowflake as a company. I literally go to our customers and say if your data team uses Coco, you you can make things go five to 10 times faster and we publish benchmarks on this. We're good at what we do compared to off-the-shelf models and even harnesses from the foundation labs. Coco is just a lot more effective on Snowflake jobs because it understands so much about Snowflake and that's really the magic.

因为它对 Snowflake 公司来说是最容易销售的产品。我 literally(直接)去问我们的客户,如果你的数据团队使用 Koko,你可以让工作速度提高五到十倍,我们对此发布了基准测试。与现成模型甚至基础实验室提供的框架相比,我们在自己的领域做得更好。Koko 在 Snowflake 任务上之所以更有效,是因为它对 Snowflake 的了解非常多,这才是真正的魔力所在。

Um, plus we don't have things like per user subscriptions and a lot of the other products do. Coco's included for free with uh Snowflake. It's a consumption model and uh it just makes this a very very compelling product for every data team on the planet.

此外,我们没有像按用户订阅这样的模式,许多其他产品都有。Koko 随 Snowflake 免费提供。它采用消耗量计费模式,这使得它成为地球上每个数据团队都非常有吸引力的产品。

That business model is interesting. So if you added 2,000 um accounts in one quarter, where does that show up or translate into revenue growth? uh in first of all it shows up in AI revenue because people that are using cocoa consume tokens that's the first solder effect but the bigger effect is that they are doing all kinds of things on snowflake they are bringing more data into snowflake they are optimizing and debugging their pipelines they are setting up things like uh interactive tables that can power dashboards they're creating agents that go into co-work and can get deployed to business users it's the second and third order effect of Google that's most interesting for Snowflake

那个商业模式很有趣。所以,如果你在一个季度内新增了2000个账户,这会如何体现或转化为收入增长?嗯,首先,它会体现在AI收入上,因为使用Cocoa的用户会消耗Token,这是第一层溢出效应。但更大的影响在于,他们在Snowflake上进行各种操作:他们将更多数据引入Snowflake,优化和调试他们的管道,设置诸如能够驱动仪表板的交互式表等,创建代理以进入协作环境并部署给业务用户。这才是对Snowflake来说最有趣的第二层和第三层溢出效应。

remaining performance obligations RPO came in below at least Wall Street's consensus estimates and expectations how would you ask the market to interpret that that figure and and or or what kind of emphasis would you put on it

剩余履约义务(RPO)低于华尔街的共识预期和期望。你会要求市场如何解读这一数字,或者你会对此给予多大程度的重视?

I wouldn't put a lot of emphasis on it we are seeing this trend where the bigger renewals are getting pushed out by a quarter to the latter part of uh this year um We are uh pretty confident that RPO will increase especially in Q4 by a lot. Uh revenue is the leading indicator that uh drives everything and as you know that's very very healthy.

我不会对此给予太多重视。我们观察到一种趋势,即较大的续约被推迟了一个季度到今年下半年。我们对RPO的增长相当有信心,尤其是在第四季度会有大幅增长。收入是驱动一切的领先指标,正如你所知,它非常健康。

We talked about Coco in the context of the other coding platforms that are out there. Generally speaking, a lot of the the analysts ask about data bricks, right? And data bicks is talking about, you know, it's 80% growth. It crossing 7 billion in in ARR. Where are they doing well against you? Where do you feel you're doing well against them?

我们在与其他编码平台的背景下讨论了Coco。一般来说,许多分析师都会问到Databricks,对吧?Databricks正在谈论其80%的增长,ARR突破70亿美元。他们在哪些方面比我们做得好?你觉得自己在哪些方面比他们做得好?

It's a big market. First of all, our strength has always been in the context of a cohesive, easy to use, trusted data platform. Their heritage is more that of catering to developers, wide open code bases, sprawl of data and uh not as much attention paid to things like governance and disaster recovery.

这是一个巨大的市场。首先,我们的优势始终在于作为一个连贯、易用且值得信赖的数据平台。他们的传统更侧重于服务开发者、开放广泛的代码库、数据分散,而在治理和灾难恢复等方面的关注较少。

And uh Snowflake is the place where enterprises have put their most valuable data, the one that they use to run their business, which is what sets us up super well to move upstream. Yes, technology is important, but I have so many meaningful conversations with our customers about how we can transform how their sales teams operate or how I can how we can help them optimize their supply chains. I would say that we are leveraging AI to do the kinds of things that we honestly would not have imagined possible 3 years ago.

而Snowflake是企业存放其最有价值数据的地方,也就是他们用来运营业务的数据,这使我们处于非常有利的地位以向上游拓展。是的,技术很重要,但我与我们的客户进行了许多有意义的对话,探讨我们如何改变他们销售团队的运作方式,或者我们如何帮助他们优化供应链。我会说,我们正在利用AI去做那些在三年前我们诚实而言无法想象可能实现的事情。

I'm very happy with where we are headed. Snowflake is becoming a lot more than a tech provider that's largely invisible. We are able to drive real outcomes for our customers.

我对我们目前的发展方向感到非常高兴。Snowflake 正变得远不止是一个 largely invisible(很大程度上不可见)的技术提供商。我们能够为客户带来切实的成果。

Sha, I like that. You know, AI is clearly driving more usage of Snowflake. So, slightly differently, what can a customer do today with their data?

Sha,我喜欢这个说法。你知道,AI 显然正在推动 Snowflake 使用量的增长。那么,换个角度说,客户今天能用他们的数据做些什么呢?

Yep.

没错。

Within Snowflake that they weren't able to do even a year ago.

在 Snowflake 平台上,他们一年前还无法做到的事情。

Yeah. If you look at uh customers like United Rentals or uh Indeed, which is among the world's uh biggest job sites, Indeed has rolled out Coco and Co-work uh to their employees in over 60 countries and 28 languages. uh ready access to data, ready access to reasoning, ready access to being able to do anything else that the data team wants to do on top of Snowflake that simply would not have been possible a year or two ago.

是的。如果你看看像 United Rentals 或 Indeed 这样的客户,Indeed 是全球最大的招聘网站之一,它已经向分布在 60 多个国家、使用 28 种语言的员工推出了 Coco 和 Co-work。现在他们可以随时访问数据、随时获得推理能力,随时能够执行数据团队希望在 Snowflake 之上完成的任何其他任务,而这些在一两年前是根本无法实现的。

That represent the frontier of what is possible with AI and data today.

这代表了当今 AI 和数据所能达到的前沿水平。

Snowflake CEO Shria Ramaswami, the stock up 20% on track for its best day since May, highest level since December 2021. Thank you so much.

Snowflake CEO Shria Ramaswami,股价上涨 20%,有望迎来自 5 月以来的最佳交易日,创下自 2021 年 12 月以来的最高水平。非常感谢。

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