美国邮政内部举报人警告新系统或致选票延误
Whistleblower warns USPS rushing new system that could jeopardize mail-in ballots
GEOFF: WELCOME TO THE NEWS HOUR. WITH JUST DAYS UNTIL THE FIRST BALLOTS ARE SET TO BE MAILED TO VOTERS, A WHISTLEBLOWER INSIDE THE U.S. POSTAL SERVICE IS WARNING THAT A NEW DELIVERY SYSTEM COULD DISRUPT THE HANDLING OF ELECTION MAIL AND POTENTIALLY PUT THE MIDTERM ELECTIONS AT RISK. THE DISCLOSURE ALSO ALLEGES THE POSTAL SERVICE CONTINUED DEVELOPING THE SYSTEM DESPITE A FEDERAL COURT ORDER TO STOP. AMNA: THAT SYSTEM IS DESIGNED TO COMPLY WITH PRESIDENT TRUMP'S EXECUTIVE ORDER TO EXERT MORE FEDERAL CONTROL OVER MAIL-IN VOTING.
杰夫：欢迎收看《新闻时刻》。距离首批选票寄给选民仅剩数日，美国邮政系统内部的一名吹哨人警告称，新的投递系统可能会扰乱选举邮件的处理，并可能使中期选举面临风险。该披露还指控，尽管联邦法院已下令停止，邮政服务部门仍继续开发该系统。阿娜：该系统旨在符合特朗普总统关于加强对邮寄投票的联邦控制的行政命令。
AND A REPORT PUBLISHED TODAY, BY THE OFFICE OF DEMOCRATIC SENATOR RICHARD BLUMENTHAL, CITES AN ANONYMOUS OFFICIAL FROM THE POSTAL SERVICE, WHO WARNS THE QUOTE "RISKY AND HAPHAZARD" IMPLEMENTATION OF THE PRESIDENT'S ORDER COULD LEAD TO "CATASTROPHIC FAILURE" IN THE MAIL BALLOT SYSTEM. AND THAT, QUOTE, "POTENTIALLY MILLIONS OF AMERICAN VOTERS MAY NOT RECEIVE THEIR MAIL-IN BALLOT THIS ELECTION CYCLE IN A TIMELY MANNER, OR AT ALL."
今天发布的一份由民主党参议员理查德·布卢门撒尔的办公室发布的报告引用了邮政系统一名匿名官员的话，他警告说，对总统命令“冒险且草率”的实施可能导致邮寄选票系统的“灾难性失败”。并且，他说，“数百万美国选民在本选举周期内可能无法及时收到他们的邮寄选票，甚至完全收不到。”
TO DISCUSS, I'M JOINED BY JACOB BOGAGE, WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT FOR REUTERS, WHO'S BEEN COVERING THIS STORY. WELCOME, THANKS FOR BEING HERE. LET'S TALK MORE ABOUT THESE NEW POSTAL SERVICE RULES UNDER PRESIDENT TRUMP'S ORDER. THE WHISTLEBLOWER RAISES SOME CONCERNS, ONE THAT PEOPLE MIGHT NOT RECEIVE THEIR BALLOTS, BUT ANOTHER THAT BALLOTS COULD BE REJECTED EN MASSE. WHAT ALLOWS THAT TO HAPPEN? JACOB: IT STEMS FROM THE EXECUTIVE ORDER THAT SEEKS TO RESTRICT MAIL IN VOTING AND ASKS STATES AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO VERIFY THAT EVERYONE WHO CAST A BALLOT IS A CITIZEN.
为了讨论这一问题，我邀请了路透社白宫记者雅各布·博盖加入节目。欢迎，感谢你的到来。让我们进一步谈谈特朗普总统命令下的新邮政服务规则。吹哨人提出了一些担忧，一是人们可能收不到选票，二是选票可能会被批量拒收。是什么导致了这种情况的发生？雅各布：这源于寻求限制邮寄投票的行政命令，该命令要求州政府和联邦政府核实每一位投出选票的人都是公民。
NONCITIZEN VOTING IS ALREADY ILLEGAL AND THERE'S IS VERY LITTLE EVIDENCE IT OCCURS AT SCALE. THE ISSUES THE WHISTLEBLOWER RAISES ARE TWOFOLD. ONE IS OPERATIONAL, SENDING BALLOT OUT. THE POSTAL SERVICE WOULD HAVE TO VERIFY STATE VOTER ROLLS AND IT DOESN'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT. IT'S TRYING TO MAKE A PORTAL TO DO THAT AND THAT IS GOING POORLY. THE OTHER IS BALLOT ACCEPTANCE. THE ISSUES ARE TWOFOLD. ONE IS VERIFICATION WHEN BALLOTS COME BACK IN AND THE OTHER IS THAT THE MALE IS JUST VERY SLOW RIGHT NOW.
非公民投票已经是非法的，而且几乎没有证据表明其大规模发生。吹哨人提出的问题有两方面。一方面是运营方面，即寄送选票。邮政服务部门必须核实各州的选民名册，但它没有能力做到这一点。它正试图建立一个门户来完成这项工作，但进展不佳。另一方面是选票接收问题。问题也是两方面的。一是在选票退回时的验证，二是目前处理速度非常缓慢。
BALLOTS USED TO BE TREATED WITH EXTRAORDINARY CARE AND WERE ROUTED AROUND PROCESSING FACILITIES AND THEY WILL NO LONGER BE ROUTED AROUND THOSE FACILITIES AND COULD GET STUCK AND COMPLICATED MAIL STREAMS. AMNA: YOU MENTIONED THE PROCESS TO IMPLEMENT THE PORTAL IS GOING POORLY. THE AGENCY HAD PLANNED TO COMPLETE THE SYSTEM BY SEPTEMBER 1, TODAY. DO WE KNOW IF THAT HAPPENED? JACOB: WE ARE NOT CERTAIN. THE AMOUNT OF TIME IT WOULD TAKE TO CREATE A SYSTEM OF THIS NATURE COULD BE FRANKLY YEARS TO TEST AND IMPLEMENT IT AND GET FEEDBACK FROM STAKEHOLDERS AND THAT WORK HAS NOT BEEN DONE.
选票过去曾受到格外谨慎的处理，并被绕开处理设施进行流转；而现在它们将不再被绕开这些设施流转，可能会卡住并导致邮件流变得复杂。阿姆纳：你提到实施门户的流程进展不佳。该机构原计划于9月1日完成系统建设。我们是否知道这是否实现了？雅各布：我们还不确定。创建这样一个系统所需的时间坦白说可能需要数年，以进行测试、实施并从利益相关者那里获取反馈，而这些工作尚未完成。
GEOFF: DESPITE VOTING BY -- AMNA: DESPITE VOTING BY MAIL HIMSELF, THE PRESIDENT HAS PUSHED FOR MORE FEDERAL CONTROL OVER MAIL-IN VOTING. WOULD THIS SYSTEM ALLOW FOR THAT? JACOB: IT WOULD INJECT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT INTO THE VOTING PROCESS OF EVERY CITY, TOWN, VILLAGE AND HAMLET IN THE UNITED STATES. THERE ARE PROTECTIONS FRANKLY AGAINST THAT. THE CONSTITU
杰夫：尽管通过邮寄方式投票——阿姆纳：尽管总统本人通过邮寄方式投票，但他一直推动加强对邮寄投票的联邦控制。这个系统会允许这样做吗？雅各布：这将使联邦政府介入美国每个城市、城镇、村庄和定居点的投票过程。事实上，对此有保护措施。宪法
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