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We were talking to Marlin Stutzman a moment ago about the Republican conference meeting. Obviously, you were not in it this morning, but they were talking about midterm messaging. And Lisa McClain, the chair of the conference, called this one of the most aggressive and productive congresses since Harry Truman was president. Is she right? Oh, my. Oh my goodness. Let's recheck our history. No, we have not been productive.

我们刚才正在和马里林·施茨曼谈论共和党会议。显然,你今天早上没有参加,但他们正在讨论中期选举的信息传递。会议主席丽莎·麦克莱恩称这是自哈里·杜鲁门担任总统以来最具侵略性和成效的国会之一。她说得对吗?哦,天哪。我的天哪。让我们重新核对一下历史。不,我们没有取得什么成效。

Uh, we've suffered many shutdowns. We've had a speaker not bring us back to Congress for weeks on end, allowing his members to just go on vacation and try to figure out something to do to fill their time. There's conversation around whether or not we will even last here this week. Will we come back for the three weeks planned for the rest of this month? No. Uh, I regret that we are not as productive as we can be. I'm a member of Foreign Affairs and Appropriations.

嗯,我们经历了多次政府停摆。我们有一位议长连续数周不让我们回到国会,让他的成员们去度假,试图找些事情来打发时间。现在有人在讨论我们本周是否能撑下去。我们会不会回来完成本月剩余三周的计划?不会。嗯,我遗憾我们没有达到应有的效率。我是外交事务委员会和拨款委员会的成员。

So with Foreign Affairs, we certainly have an awful lot to talk about, about around the globe. Like an extraordinarily costly and illegal and reckless chaotic war and then in appropriations. Honest to God, we're going to do a CR today. I will be voting yes. Uh, most likely, unless something changes, uh, for the CR, because I want some continuity. But that's no way to run a government. So, uh, sadly, this book line has it very wrong, and you can't make that happen and have the American people believe it.

所以在外交事务方面,我们确实有很多话题要谈,涉及全球各地。比如一场代价极其高昂、非法且鲁莽混乱的战争,以及在拨款方面。说真的,我们今天将进行一次持续决议案(CR)投票。我会投赞成票。嗯,除非有变化,否则我很可能会为持续决议案投赞成票,因为我希望保持连续性。但这绝不是治理国家的方式。所以,嗯,可悲的是,这本书的结论完全错了,你无法实现这一点并让美国人民相信它。

Well, you'll be voting yes for the CR unless something changes. Uh, as you said, Congressman, will you have the opportunity? Do you expect to vote on a Russia sanctions package? And would you send that signal to the Kremlin, or are you too concerned about the authority on tariffs that it grants to the president? My number on the CR, uh, I believe we will see that on the floor today. Uh, on the Russia sanctions bill. I don't that the best information I have is that that is not coming up this week.

那么,除非有变化,你会为持续决议案投赞成票。嗯,正如你所说,众议员,你有机会吗?你预计会对俄罗斯制裁一揽子计划进行投票吗?这会向克里姆林宫发出信号吗,还是你太担心它授予总统的关税权力了?关于持续决议案,嗯,我相信我们今天会在议会上看到它。嗯,关于俄罗斯制裁法案。根据我目前掌握的最佳信息,它本周不会提出。

And here's where I am on that. Ukraine needs our support. I have said since day one, February. Uh, four and a half years ago now. Uh, and that's only the invasion. Uh, that's not even considering. Uh, 12 years ago. Crimea. I have said since day one that we should be doing everything in our power to make sure Ukraine has what it needs to win. We have failed to do that. We originally, initially in a very strong bipartisan way, supported Ukraine in this assault on its sovereignty and its young democracy.

这就是我对此事的看法。乌克兰需要我们的支持。我从第一天起,也就是四年半前的二月,就说过。嗯,那只是入侵。嗯,甚至还没有考虑。嗯,十二年前的克里米亚。我从第一天起就说,我们应该尽一切努力确保乌克兰拥有获胜所需的一切。我们未能做到这一点。我们最初以非常强烈的两党方式支持乌克兰抵御对其主权和年轻民主的侵犯。

Uh, but then you saw us stall and become partisan. Uh, with Republicans separating from wanting to support Ukraine. It's been more than two years now since we've done something to support Ukraine. You can see I'm wearing my pin here. I have a terrific, uh, Ukrainian-American constituency in my fourth congressional district of Montgomery in Berks County, Pennsylvania. Uh, so I'm on their side. I'm on the side of Ukraine.

嗯,但随后你们看到我们拖延并变得党派化。嗯,共和党人因不愿支持乌克兰而与之分离。自我们从行动层面支持乌克兰以来,已经过去了两年多。你们可以看到我戴着这枚徽章。在我的宾夕法尼亚州蒙哥马利和伯克斯县所在的第四国会选区,我有一个非常出色的乌克兰裔美国选民群体。嗯,所以我站在他们一边。我站在乌克兰一边。

Sadly, I don't think we'll do something, uh, to support Ukraine this week. I don't think that resolution is coming forward. But regardless of the vehicle, we should be supporting Ukraine. I was critical of the last administration and urged President Biden and his team to get more support to Ukraine. Uh, and I am trying to do the same with this administration. So just to be clear, Congresswoman, if and when it does come to the floor, you intend to vote for the sanctions package.

遗憾的是,我认为我们本周不会采取行动支持乌克兰。我不认为该决议会提上议程。但无论通过何种途径,我们都应该支持乌克兰。我曾批评上一届政府,并敦促拜登总统及其团队向乌克兰提供更多支持。嗯,我也正试图对本届政府采取同样的做法。因此,为了明确起见,众议员,如果及当它提交表决时,你打算为制裁方案投票吗?

It will depend upon how it reads. I have not made a call on that vote. Um, okay. You mentioned to the president you can imagine I'm not keen on that because he's already taken illegal authorities. Uh, we have the constitutional authority, the power of the purse under article one. Uh, not to mention no real war. So, uh, I'll be looking at the language of the resolution very closely as I profess and believe in my support for Ukraine.

这取决于其具体措辞。我尚未就该投票做出决定。嗯,好的。你曾向总统提及,我想他对此并不热衷,因为他已经采取了非法的权力。嗯,根据宪法第一条,我们拥有立法权和财政权。更不用说实际上并未发生战争。所以,嗯,鉴于我宣称并坚信对乌克兰的支持,我将非常仔细地审视该决议的文本。

Well, sounds like you could be a no, then, congresswoman, because he would be granted, uh, remarkable power over applying tariffs on other nations. And I realize you need to see the document and we'll talk about that. We'd like to when that arrives. Uh, six months of war with Iran. That was Friday. And as of noon today, Centcom is confirming that we have resume strikes. Were hitting targets around the strait. As the three of us speak right now, Congresswoman.

那么,听起来你可能会投反对票,众议员,因为这将赋予他对其他国家施加关税以行使非凡的权力。我意识到你需要查看文件,我们会就此讨论。我们希望在那份文件到达时进行讨论。与伊朗的战争已持续六个月了,那是上周五的事。截至今天中午,中央司令部确认我们已恢复打击行动。正如我们三人此刻交谈时一样,众议员,我们正在打击海峡周围的目標。

Uh, with your committee in mind here, are you hearing from the white House about leaning into military action or favoring this so-called economic day that the Treasury secretary was talking about? Because it appears we're we're pursuing both today. Well, Joe and Kelly, uh, I think it's incredibly sad that we are now past six months of this war with no resolution in sight, with no clear mission in sight. And I say that up against a visit I made this summer, uh, to Hawaii, to the RimPac exercises.

嗯,考虑到你的委员会,你是否听到白宫方面关于倾向于军事行动或青睐财政部长所谈论的这种所谓“经济日”的消息?因为看起来我们今天两者都在推进。好吧,乔和凯利,嗯,我认为非常令人悲哀的是,我们与这场战争已过去六个月,却看不到解决前景,也看不到明确的任务目标。我之所以这样说,是结合了我今年夏天前往夏威夷参加环太平洋军演的访问经历而言的。

I can't tell you how impressed I am, uh, with everybody from Admiral Papa on down our Navy and Marine. The exquisite nature of their preparation, uh, for us, for national security and for war. But you put that up against a president who recklessly got us into a war, believing probably that it would have been in and out quickly, like Maduro in Venezuela. And of course, now he's in a terrible spot. We are in a dangerous spot.

我无法表达我对从帕帕上将到我们海军和陆战队全体人员的深刻印象。他们为我们、为国家安全以及为战争所做的准备的精妙程度令人惊叹。但你将这与一位鲁莽地将我们卷入战争的总统进行对比,他可能认为这场战争会像委内瑞拉的马杜罗那样速战速决。当然,现在他陷入了困境。我们也处于危险之中。

Our allies. I've met through foreign affairs. I've met with our allies in the region. Uh, they are gravely concerned as their countries are suffering damage and casualties. Uh, so what I wish is that diplomacy would prevail here, that smart diplomats would come to the fore. You asked about what Congress is hearing from the white House. Nothing. Very little. We had one phone call, uh, with Secretary Rubio and Mr. Woodcock on the memorandum of understanding.

我们的盟友。我在外交事务中见过他们。我与该地区的盟友进行了会晤。他们深感担忧,因为他们的国家正遭受损害和人员伤亡。因此,我希望外交手段能在此发挥作用,让聪明的外交官脱颖而出。你问到国会从白宫听到了什么?没有消息。非常少。我们与鲁比奥国务卿和伍德科克先生就谅解备忘录有过一次电话通话。

And when I asked a tough question, I got cut off. We've had no information from this white House. They have been very reckless. And obviously, Pete Hegseth is over his head. You saw the resignation. Was it today or yesterday of the head of the army? How unfortunate that we are losing these incredibly smart, talented, experienced military leaders because of a failed administration and a civilian leadership? Uh, that prize is politics over the lives of American soldiers.

当我提出一个尖锐的问题时,我被中断了。我们没有从这个白宫得到任何信息。他们非常鲁莽。显然,皮特·赫格塞斯已经超出了他的能力范围。你看到了辞职的情况。是今天还是昨天陆军参谋长辞职的?由于管理失败和文官领导层,我们正在失去这些极其聪明、有才华、经验丰富的军事领导人,这是多么不幸啊!政治凌驾于美国士兵的生命之上。

We have 18 soldiers dead, 700 plus wounded. $100 billion. You want to talk about the economy? More than $100 billion spent on this war and everything costing us more because the street is closed. That wasn't a problem. Uh, seven months ago. The street is closed. Everything now costs more. And we've lost so very, very much. Well, and, Congresswoman, the president is warning on true social as we speak that more could be coming.

我们有18名士兵阵亡,700多人受伤。1000亿美元。你想谈谈经济吗?在这场战争中花费了超过1000亿美元,而且由于街道被封锁,一切成本都在增加。这以前不是问题。七个月前还不是。现在街道被封锁了。现在一切都更贵了。我们失去了太多太多了。好吧,众议员,总统正在真实社交平台上警告说,可能会有更多情况发生。

He says that the United States is striking Iranian targets near the Strait of Hormuz. He describes those strikes as large and powerful, and says they're in retaliation for Iran's attempt to lay mines and also attempted attack against U.S. forces in Jordan. He goes on to say, if the failed nation of Iran retaliates for this very justified attack, they will be hit again at a much harder and higher level. But it will not be the biggest attack of them all that is waiting in the wings, and when it is over, there will be very little left of the Islamic Republic of Iran.

他说美国正在打击霍尔木兹海峡附近的伊朗目标。他将这些打击描述为大规模且强大的,并表示这是对伊朗试图布设水雷以及对驻约旦美军发动袭击的报复。他继续表示,如果失败的伊朗对这个非常正当的攻击进行报复,他们将受到更猛烈、更高级别的打击。但这还不是最大的攻击,更大的攻击还在后面。当这一切结束时,伊斯兰共和国将所剩无几。

Do you expect, Congresswoman, that we may get to that point? The biggest attack of them all is that the direction this is heading. I pray not. The president has said these kinds of things over and over again. He is so extremely reckless and not well thought out. You've seen over the weekend some of his posts that make this war look like some sort of a silly video game. The president is proving himself to be farcical and feeble, and I wish stronger minds would prevail.

女议员,您是否预期我们会走到那一步?最严重的攻击在于事态发展的方向。我祈祷不会如此。总统已经反复说过这类话。他极其鲁莽且缺乏深思熟虑。周末期间,您看到了他的一些帖子,让这场战争看起来像某种愚蠢的电子游戏。总统正证明自己是荒谬而软弱的,我希望更强大的力量能够占据上风。

I wish military leadership would convince these folks as to how to get out of this as safely as possible. Leaning on and bringing together our allies in the region in the Gulf region, including Jordan. Uh, after all, we are all in this together. The president's rhetoric has been reckless, but that has been the case for the last 11.5 years that he's been on the scene running for president or serving as president. So I regret

我希望军事领导层能说服这些人如何尽可能安全地脱身。依靠并联合我们在海湾地区的盟友,包括约旦。嗯,毕竟我们同舟共济。总统的言论一直鲁莽,但在他竞选总统或担任总统的过去11.5年里,情况一直是这样。所以我感到遗憾

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