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美债收益率飙升:鲍威尔称需加息恢复央行信誉

What Could Stop the Bond Market Selloff?: 3-Minutes MLIV

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美联储主席关于“需加息恢复信誉”的表态直接指向宏观政策路径的重大转变,是理解当前全球债市动荡的核心变量,建议密切关注后续政策落地节奏。

Paul, good to have you with us. We've done quite a bit of size and scope around the bond selloff this morning. It seems to have gone global focused kind of at the longer end. What stands out to you as an interesting dynamic? Hi. Yeah good morning Anna. So Sidney, as you say, we're setting, uh, those sort of new, uh, levels in the bond market with yields rising, prices of bonds falling. So in Japan, getting to 3% for the first time in decades.

保罗,很高兴你能加入我们。今天早上我们在债券抛售的规模和范围方面做了不少分析。看起来这种抛售在全球范围内有所蔓延,且主要集中在较长端期限。你觉得有什么值得关注的有趣动态吗?嗨。早上好,安娜。正如西德尼所说,我们正在见证债券市场出现新的水平,收益率上升,债券价格下跌。例如在日本,收益率首次达到3%,这是几十年来头一回。

Likewise, in Australia, yields haven't been this high since 2011. And it started, of course, with the US treasuries market, where we saw a ratcheting up in the ten year yield overnight. I think the, um, the that sort of uh, that's speaks for itself in some ways. You know, there are any number of reasons why bond yields are rising from the inflation risks to the supply and demand in the market. You know, the amount of corporate issuance that we're seeing to worries about government profligacy as well.

同样,在澳大利亚,收益率自2011年以来从未如此之高。当然,这一切始于美国国债市场,我们看到隔夜十年期收益率攀升。我认为这在某种程度上不言而喻。你知道,导致债券收益率上升的原因有很多,从通胀风险到市场的供需关系。你知道,我们看到的公司发行量增加,以及对政府挥霍无度的担忧也是原因之一。

But I think most salient in may be, is this acceptance that we're in a higher yield environment where the neutral rate is higher growth is looking relatively strong, and central banks need to have a higher interest rate in order for their policy to be restrictive, and they're starting to register that. And we're seeing that not just from the fed and from what the the comments that we heard from Walsh at Jackson Hole, but also the pressure on the likes of the Bank of Japan to to match those increases in interest rates as well.

但我认为最显著的一点可能是,人们接受了我们正处于一个更高收益率的环境中,中性利率更高,经济增长相对强劲,央行需要维持更高的利率才能使政策具有限制性,而他们开始意识到这一点。我们不仅看到美联储有这样的动向,还听到了沃尔什在杰克逊霍尔会议上的评论,同时也看到了日本银行等机构面临匹配这些利率上升的压力。

Mhm. And would that be part of the remedy pool to, to this bond sell off. What would stop the bond sell off at this point. Yeah. So I'm I think I think that that's a good question I think yes. And in some ways uh, at least to clamp down on those, uh, inflation concerns, central banks need to get on and raise interest rates to restore their credibility, to restore faith in those longer term yields. I think, you know, the other thing that we need to see is like the governments have a plan, right?

嗯。这会是应对此次债券抛售的药方之一吗?目前什么能阻止债券抛售呢?是的。我认为这是一个好问题,我认为是的。在某种程度上,至少为了遏制那些通胀担忧,央行需要采取行动提高利率,以恢复其信誉,恢复市场对长期收益率的信心。我认为,我们需要看到的是,政府有一个计划,对吧?

Okay. So Scotty Benson is talking about the idea that, uh, he needs to go for growth to grow faster, to bring down the US debt. That's all very well and good. Like, let's hear let's see some substance and the same for others. And we're going to see austerity if we're going to see more spending. How is it going to be channeled in order to fuel growth, and how are they going to manage those debt loads? I think ultimately that government credibility is also going to matter.

好的。所以斯科蒂·本森谈到这样一个观点:他需要让经济增长更快,以降低美国债务。这听起来不错。但让我们听听实质性的内容,其他人也一样。如果我们看到紧缩措施或者更多支出,这些支出将如何引导以刺激增长,他们又将如何管理这些债务负担?我认为最终政府的信誉也将至关重要。

Or if we get yields high enough, you know, people will come back in, they will look at those returns and the prospects for the bonds, you know, and start to mop them up. You get to a 6% yield on the 30 year, uh, U.S. Treasury. I'm sure there will be ample demand there as well. Huh. And what one of the asset implications of all of this. Then pull we up. Lost a number of our guests. Whether the stock's strength outlasts or manages to cope with higher yields.

或者,如果我们获得的收益率足够高,你知道的,人们会重新回来,他们会审视这些回报以及债券的前景,然后开始大量吸纳。当30年期美国国债的收益率达到6%时,我确信那里也会有充足的需求。嗯。这一切对资产有什么影响呢?那么把我们拉上去。我们失去了一些嘉宾。股市的强势能否在更高收益率的环境下持续下去或应对得住。

I think it was one of the big brokers. Maybe JP Morgan yesterday turning more negative on the back of expectations of higher yields from from the fed. The me not so much Hannah because I think though we're in that faster, uh, growth environment because I think that, you know, we're in this sort of technological revolutionary, uh, stage of, of this cycle. I do think the higher yields, higher borrowing costs will slow down growth rate.

我认为那是一家大型券商。也许是摩根大通(JP Morgan)昨天因预期美联储将提高利率而变得更加看空。我不太这么认为,汉娜(Hannah),因为我认为我们正处于一个更快的增长环境中,因为我觉得我们正处在这个周期的某种技术革命阶段。我确实认为更高的收益率、更高的借贷成本会减缓增长率。

So we'll be a check on that, particularly for the funding for the AI build out. But I don't think that necessarily has to derail it. The only thing that would be bad is if there were a much more rapid hike in the yields. If it's slow and steady rising yields, I don't think that the market is going to worry about that too much.

所以这将对这一点形成制约,特别是对于AI建设的融资而言。但我不认为这必然会使其脱轨。唯一糟糕的情况是收益率出现更快速的飙升。如果是缓慢而稳定的收益率上升,我认为市场不会对此过于担忧。

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