中国大型银行上半年利润增长,息差压力缓解
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Bloomberg Audio Studios podcasts radio news. Welcome to the Daybreak Asia podcast. I'm Doug Krishnner. Crude oil prices are higher after US forces struck Iranian rocket launchers nearby the Strait of Hormuz. Now, a US official said Iran's Revolutionary Guard was observed preparing to launch rockets with sea mines into the straight. At the same time, we have President Trump saying the US is planning to use its control over Venezuelan crude oil to refill US emergency reserves.
彭博音频工作室播客电台新闻。欢迎收听《亚洲黎明》播客。我是道格·克里斯纳。美国军队袭击了霍尔木兹海峡附近的伊朗火箭发射器后,原油价格上涨。现在,一位美国官员表示,观察到伊朗革命卫队正准备发射携带水雷的火箭进入海峡。与此同时,特朗普总统表示,美国计划利用其对委内瑞拉原油的控制来补充美国的紧急储备。
Now, the level of the US strategic petroleum reserve is roughly 40% of capacity. Here is Bloomberg senior editor Wendy Benjaminson. President Trump believes that um the uh agreement to control the oil of a sovereign nation of Venezuela um will certainly help the US control gas prices. That's what he's telling the public. However, the oil from Venezuela is not ready to be refined and produced or even drawn out of the earth.
目前,美国战略石油储备的水平约为容量的40%。以下是彭博社资深编辑温迪·本杰明森的报道。特朗普总统认为,控制主权国家委内瑞拉石油的协议肯定有助于美国控制汽油价格。这是他对公众所说的。然而,委内瑞拉的石油尚未准备好进行精炼和生产,甚至还未从地下开采出来。
So, it could be years before the US sees any of this Venezuelan oil. That is Bloomberg's Wendy Benjaminson. We go to Japan next where the latest reading on industrial production shows manufacturers were able to weather uncertainty from the conflict in the Middle East better than expected. Output rose last month at a month-on-month rate of onetenth of 1%. Expectations called for a drop of 7/10en of 1%. A weaker yen, no doubt, was able to help out.
因此,美国可能需要数年时间才能看到这些委内瑞拉石油。这是彭博社的温迪·本杰明森报道。接下来我们前往日本,最新的工业生产数据显示,制造商比预期更好地应对了中东冲突带来的不确定性。上个月产出环比增长了0.1%。预期是下降0.7%。日元走弱无疑起到了帮助作用。
In the US, the employment report for July is due on Friday. With employment growth continuing, Fed officials now are zeroing in on price stability. Last Friday, Fed Chair Kevin Worsh said broad financial conditions were not restrictive. And Worsh's remarks raised the probability of a rate hike in September. The two-year Treasury in the Friday session was up by more than 10 basis points. And that's where we begin our conversation with Karen Calder.
在美国,7月份的就业报告将于周五公布。随着就业增长持续,美联储官员现在聚焦于价格稳定。上周五,美联储主席凯文·沃什表示,广泛的金融状况并不具有限制性。沃什的言论提高了9月加息的可能性。周五交易中,两年期国债收益率上涨超过10个基点。这就是我们与凯伦·卡尔德对话的开始。
He is head of Asia equity research at UBS. Karen spoke with Bloomberg's Heidi Strad Watts. Heidi started the conversation by asking whether the Worsh speech strengthened the Fed's credibility.
他是瑞银亚洲股票研究主管。凯伦与彭博社的海蒂·斯特拉德·沃茨进行了交谈。海蒂以询问沃什的讲话是否增强了美联储的信誉开始了对话。
So, I mean, I think definitely from uh the speech on on Friday, he made pretty clearly uh made made the case and got in in line with what the rest of the market is thinking is that inflation is way too high and the Fed needs to do something. Um, you know, of course, he prefaced that with a lot of detail around the individ individual 90 so components of the the PC. Um, but you know, the the main thing is that inflation's too high and the Fed needs to act.
所以,我认为,从周五的讲话来看,他非常清楚地阐述了观点,并与市场其他部分的看法一致,即通胀过高,美联储需要采取行动。嗯,你知道,当然,他在讲话前详细介绍了个人消费支出(PCE)的90多个组成部分。但你知道,主要问题是通胀过高,美联储需要采取行动。
Um, uh, if you know, if we do not get a move uh later this month um, for whatever reason, I think uh, that's you know, we're going to start to have a little bit of dislocation in in the market. Um, clearly inflation is is too high and it needs to get under control. Has this kind of just been heightened in terms of the risk given that we're now seeing yet more military escalation or at least response from the US in the Middle East?
嗯,呃,如果你知道,如果我们这个月晚些时候没有采取行动,呃,不管出于什么原因,我想,呃,你知道的,我们将会开始看到市场上出现一些混乱。嗯,显然通胀过高,需要得到控制。鉴于我们现在看到中东地区又出现了更多的军事升级,或者至少是美国方面的回应,这种风险是不是已经被放大了呢?
Yeah. Well, so I mean if you look at uh you know the timing of course is uh maybe coincidental but uh this is an administration which likes to uh uh you know do something over here to distract from something over there it seems. Um but the the net you know the major impact for markets anyways of increased action in in uh in Iran is through the energy markets. So um and and then therefore that plays through into into uh inflation.
是的。嗯,所以我的意思是,如果你看一下,呃,你知道的,时机当然可能是巧合,但呃,这届政府似乎喜欢,呃,你知道的,在这里做点什么来转移人们对那里的注意力。嗯,但无论如何,对市场的主要影响,伊朗局势升级,是通过能源市场传导的。所以,嗯,然后这又会影响到通胀。
Um I I I think you know it all comes down to you know again uh this is inflationary uh more action in the Middle East especially through the uh energy channel uh and we need to uh see the Fed you know act to uh to get that under control rather than just say we've got work ahead and we're going to act um because the market's no longer buying that.
嗯,我,我认为,你知道的,归根结底还是,呃,这又是通胀性的,中东更多的行动,尤其是通过能源渠道,呃,我们需要看到美联储,你知道的,采取行动来控制局面,而不是仅仅说我们还有工作要做,我们会采取行动,因为市场已经不再相信那套说辞了。
You're still pretty constructive when it comes to US particularly on an earnings basis. So I guess the question is how much do you factor in the volatility in treasuries? Like at what level do we see equity sentiment still remaining positive despite a move in yields or or does it depend more on I guess the magnitude of how fast yields move?
你对美国股市,尤其是在盈利方面,仍然相当看好。所以我想问题是,你在多大程度上将国债市场的波动性纳入考量?在什么水平上,即使收益率出现变动,股市情绪仍然保持积极?还是说,这更多取决于收益率变动的幅度和速度?
Well, I mean of course it depends on uh you know uh the quantum and the speed uh of course. So the reason that we like the US uh equity market is basically earnings. So earnings uh you know in the second quarter it was a blowout. Um we're starting to see uh you know the beginnings of monetization of the AI uh capex buildout. So this is initially obviously through um increased cloud revenue for the the three main cloud providers.
嗯,我的意思是,当然这取决于,呃,你知道的,幅度和速度,当然。所以我们看好美国股市的原因基本上就是盈利。所以盈利,呃,你知道的,第二季度是井喷式的。我们开始看到,呃,你知道的,AI资本开支建设开始产生货币化回报的苗头。所以这最初显然是通过三大主要云提供商的云收入增加来体现的。
Um you know the two big frontier LLMs are now uh have a run rate of over 100 billion in terms of revenue. Um so these are all positive. Um interestingly we've seen we think a disconnection um between the valuation of the uh bank sector uh and interest rates. Um and and that's been going on for a couple of years now. Um so the bank sector continues to move higher even though interest rates have been um you know flat to down although as you said we think they're as we expect they're going up a little bit uh before the end of this year.
嗯,你知道,两大前沿大语言模型现在的营收运行率已经超过1000亿美元。嗯,这些都是积极的。有趣的是,我们认为银行板块的估值与利率之间出现了脱节。嗯,这种情况已经持续了几年。嗯,所以银行板块继续走高,尽管利率一直持平或下降,虽然如你所说,我们认为它们会如预期在年底前略有上升。
Um and that's really been because uh also ARI related the the major banks in in the US fees revenue uh is uh recovering um to pre2022 levels. A lot of that uh fee and M&A activity is related to to AI um both on the equity and the bond side. Uh and and we think that's part of the trade that continues as well. Do you worry about the crossf funding risk that we're seeing across AI or across the AI thematic and and the ecosystem?
嗯,这实际上也是因为,与AI相关,美国主要银行的费用收入正在恢复到2022年前的水平。很多这些费用和并购活动都与AI相关,无论是在股票还是债券方面。嗯,我们认为这也是持续进行的交易的一部分。你是否担心我们在AI或AI主题及其生态系统中看到的交叉融资风险?
What are you concerned about as the risks right now?
你目前担心哪些风险?
Yeah, I mean absolutely we are um you know we've we've kind of seen this sort of a thing before um with telecom uh 20 years ago. Um so but we think probably the biggest risk right now uh in within the AI ecosystem is around open AI. Um so open AAI obviously is a little bit further behind Anthropic in terms of their IPO plans. Um and we think that's possible that that can put some pressure on the balance sheet. Um and if you look at their balance sheet there's a few um you know things to look out for.
是的,我绝对担心。嗯,我们之前也见过类似的情况,比如20年前的电信行业。嗯,但我们认为目前AI生态系统中最大的风险可能围绕OpenAI。嗯,OpenAI在IPO计划方面显然比Anthropic稍微落后一些。嗯,我们认为这可能会对其资产负债表造成一些压力。嗯,如果你看他们的资产负债表,有几个需要注意的地方。
So one you know they've talked about uh giving 5% or selling 5% to the government. Um that's interesting in itself and uh something to to uh there's questions around that. Um they're also widening you know the circle of risk. So as one of their largest shareholders Soft Bank is doing a the largest ever retail bond issue to fund their investment into into OpenAI. Um and and of course they're also part of the uh sort of vendor circular financing um uh ecosystem.
首先,你知道,他们谈过给政府5%或出售5%的股份。嗯,这本身就很有趣,而且围绕这一点还有一些问题。嗯,他们也在扩大风险圈。所以,作为他们最大的股东之一,软银正在进行有史以来最大规模的零售债券发行,以资助他们对OpenAI的投资。嗯,当然,他们也是某种供应商循环融资生态系统的一部分。
You know these are all things things to watch. Um it it's okay at the moment. Um and if you see the messages uh last week from uh from Nvidia um you know the only regret that the CEO of Nvidia has is it hasn't invested more in these these uh companies. Um so we should expect more in terms of the vendor financing we expect. Um but definitely this is an area uh to watch and it's tied to the to monetization. So the faster we get monetization of this giant infrastructure build out the better and it'll solve a lot of those questions.
你知道这些都是需要关注的事情。嗯,目前来说还好。嗯,如果你看到上周来自英伟达的消息,你知道,英伟达CEO唯一的遗憾就是没有在这些公司上投资更多。嗯,所以我们应该预期在供应商融资方面会有更多动作。嗯,但这绝对是一个需要关注的领域,而且它与变现相关。所以,这个巨大基础设施建设的变现越快,就越好,这将解决很多这些问题。
That's Karen Calder, head of Asia Equity Research at UBS, speaking with Bloomberg's Heidi Strad Watts, bringing you their conversation here on the Daybreak Asia podcast. Welcome back to the Daybreak Asia podcast. I'm Doug Krer. So, the big banks in China have reported earnings. Stateowned lenders produced higher first half profits. Now, these results in and of themselves offer fresh evidence of improvements in China's banking industry after a prolonged squeeze on margins.
那是瑞银亚洲股票研究主管凯伦·考尔德,她与彭博社的海蒂·斯特拉德·沃茨进行了交谈,为您带来他们在《日界线亚洲》播客中的对话。欢迎回到《日界线亚洲》播客。我是道格·克雷尔。那么,中国的大型银行已经公布了财报。国有银行上半年利润有所增长。现在,这些结果本身为中国的银行业在长期利润挤压后出现改善提供了新的证据。
For a closer look, we caught up with Bloomberg senior banking analyst Francis Chan. He spoke with Bloomberg TV host Ivon Man and David Inglace. David began the conversation by asking Francis for anything that stood out.
为了更深入了解,我们采访了彭博社资深银行业分析师弗朗西斯·陈。他与彭博电视台主持人伊冯·曼和大卫·英格拉斯进行了交谈。大卫在对话开始时询问弗朗西斯有什么突出之处。
Um, well, that that's also reflected in the regulatory data. uh we do see the easing margin pressure and uh uh both uh many of the banks they have sequential improvement in the second quarter margins. I see that as a more important matrix than the uh yearon-year comparison. Uh and uh le
嗯,嗯,这也反映在监管数据中。嗯,我们确实看到利润率压力有所缓解,嗯,嗯,许多银行在第二季度的利润率都有环比改善。我认为这比同比比较更重要。嗯,还有
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