本周财报前瞻:Palo Alto、博通、Lululemon
Week Ahead: Palo Alto Networks, Broadcom, Lululemon (Podcast) | Stock Movers
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The Stock Movers Report, your roundup of companies making moves in the stock market, harnessing the power of Bloomberg data. Let's take a look now at some stocks making news in the week ahead. I'm Nathan Hager joined by Bloomberg equities reporter Matthew Griffin. So, we're kind of [music] at the uh tail end of the earnings parade, but we've got some uh pretty big names reporting this week, including PaloAlto Networks out with its results on Tuesday.
股票动向报告,为您汇总利用彭博数据在股市中有所动作的公司。现在让我们看看本周有哪些股票成为新闻焦点。我是内森·哈格,与我一起的是彭博股票记者马修·格里芬。那么,我们正处于[音乐]财报季的尾声,但本周仍有一些大牌公司发布财报,包括PaloAlto Networks将于周二公布业绩。
Where's the bar for PaloAlto after the strong results we got from Crowd Strike when it comes to cyber security, Matthew?
在Crowd Strike在网络安全方面交出强劲成绩后,马修,PaloAlto的门槛设在哪里?
Well, Nathan, the bar is pretty high. I was looking at analysts expectations for PaloAlto. That's ticker P A N W. And they're looking for about 30% year-over-year revenue growth. This comes as all of these cyber names are now considered AI beneficiaries. companies are spending more on cyber security because they're worried about things like this trend of models hacking companies like Anthropic's decision not to even release the Claude Mythos 5 model to the general public because of its cyber capabilities.
嗯,内森,门槛相当高。我查看了分析师对PaloAlto的预期,其股票代码为PANW。他们预计营收同比增长约30%。这是因为所有这些网络安全公司现在都被视为AI受益者。公司正在增加网络安全支出,因为他们担心诸如模型攻击公司这类趋势,比如Anthropic决定不向公众发布Claude Mythos 5模型,因其网络攻击能力。
And it's really remarkable what's happened in the stock market as a result. You know, the first couple months of this year, these were considered AI disruption candidates. They were SAS apocalypse names and they all traded down as a result. Now they have rallied and so my question would be what is the buy side looking for here? The valuation has spiked above 90 times forward earnings. Those are levels not seen in more than a decade.
由此在股市上发生的事情确实引人注目。你知道,今年头几个月,这些公司被视为AI颠覆候选者。它们是SAS末日股,因此全部下跌。现在它们已经反弹,所以我的问题是买方在这里期待什么?估值已飙升至前瞻市盈率90倍以上。这些水平是十多年来未曾见过的。
So I am wondering what will be enough for investors here. Yeah, I mean that's a really good point given that you know since the start of the year we've already seen just PaloAlto alone nearly double its stock market value. I mean you have to wonder whether there is further upside from here. Yes, I mean with AI, you know, you you look at what's happened to a lot of the AI winners, you can never discount it, but we have seen some of the names, for example, uh some of the chip names moderating uh their own share growth in recent months.
所以我想知道,对投资者来说,什么才算足够。是的,我的意思是,这是一个非常好的观点,因为你知道,自年初以来,仅PaloAlto一家公司的市值就几乎翻了一番。我的意思是,你不得不怀疑是否还有进一步上涨空间。是的,我的意思是,对于AI,你知道,你看看许多AI赢家的情况,你永远不能低估它,但我们已经看到一些公司,例如,一些芯片公司在最近几个月内减缓了自身股价增长。
And so the question I guess would be when will that happen for the cyber names?
所以我想问题会是,网络安全公司何时会出现这种情况?
Absolutely. U we're going to hear from another one of those uh names at least in the tech space on Wednesday when we get results from Broadcom after that day's closing bell. Another AI bell weather after the the blowout outlook we saw from Nvidia this past week. Can we expect something similar from from Broadcom, do you think?
当然。我们将在周三收盘后听到科技领域另一个知名公司的消息,那就是博通公布业绩。继上周英伟达给出令人惊艳的展望后,博通能否成为另一个AI风向标?您认为我们能期待类似的表现吗?
Well, the real question here is what is Broadcom going to say about, you know, whether they see blowout revenue in the future. So the bar for this company that's ticker AVGO for their key revenue stream the AI chip revenue is not necessarily that high in terms of analyst expectations for this quarter. It's about in line with their $16 billion outlook for the quarter. But for next year analysts are expecting revenue from AI chips of about $120 billion. that would imply six-fold growth over 2 years, you know, compared to the last full year we have numbers for.
嗯,真正的问题是博通将如何表态,比如他们是否预见未来会有爆发式收入增长。对于这家代码为AVGO的公司,其关键收入来源——AI芯片收入——本季度的分析师预期门槛并不算高,大致与公司给出的160亿美元季度展望相符。但分析师预计明年AI芯片收入将达到约1200亿美元,这意味着相比我们掌握数据的上一个完整年度,两年内将增长六倍。
And so, City says that 2027 outlook or commentary or anything we get from the company is going to be really important. The quarterly outlook for that revenue stream really disappointed investors when they gave it in June. The stock fell 13% in a day. So, we'll see if this report can reignite optimism. We could also learn more about their sales deals with major AI players or these chip financing deals. Our colleagues have reported the company's in talks with lenders to raise more than $60 billion in debt for a deal that would benefit Anthropic and other companies and investors are going to be eager to hear if there are any developments on that front.
因此,花旗表示,公司给出的2027年展望或任何评论都将至关重要。6月份公司给出该收入来源的季度展望时,确实令投资者失望,股价单日下跌13%。所以,我们将看看这份报告能否重燃乐观情绪。我们还可能了解到更多关于公司与主要AI参与者的销售协议或芯片融资交易的信息。我们的同事报道称,公司正在与贷款机构洽谈,计划筹集超过600亿美元的债务,用于一项惠及Anthropic及其他公司的交易,投资者将急切期待是否有任何进展。
Yeah, absolutely. And you know, given what we heard, like I said, from Nvidia just this past week about, you know, how much revenue they expect to get from the uh still continuing AI demand here, uh I guess I wonder whether uh it's one of those uh rising tides that lifts all boats kind of situation that could benefit for Broadcom. Is that kind of what analysts are thinking right now?
是的,绝对如此。而且,考虑到我们上周刚听到英伟达关于他们预期从持续AI需求中获得的收入规模,我想知道这是否属于那种“水涨船高”的情况,可能惠及博通。这是否正是分析师们目前的想法呢?
It's what Wall Street is hoping. Broadcom has positioned itself as a key competitor to Nvidia, but Nvidia is still the market leader. And so we do go into these reports wondering how much they will benefit from the rising tide. That positioning though as a key competitor, it does mean this report will tell us a lot about the broader AI infrastructure complex. So, anything that confirms that bullish outlook from Nvidia, which was for about 70% revenue growth in the next fiscal year, that would be a positive and it would start offsetting some of the concerns about the AI trade that are growing.
这正是华尔街所期待的。博通已将自己定位为英伟达的主要竞争对手,但英伟达仍是市场领导者。因此,我们在阅读这些报告时确实会思考,它们能从这股上升浪潮中获益多少。不过,作为主要竞争对手的定位确实意味着这份报告将告诉我们很多关于更广泛的人工智能基础设施领域的信息。因此,任何证实英伟达看涨前景的消息——即下一财年约70%的营收增长——都将是一个积极信号,并开始缓解人们对人工智能交易日益增长的担忧。
We're seeing falling token prices that complicates the return on investment question. And something I've been reporting a lot on a lot is these regulatory concerns, the public push back to data centers and what that can mean for AI infrastructure spending.
我们看到代币价格下跌,这使投资回报问题变得更加复杂。而且我一直在大量报道的是这些监管方面的担忧,公众对数据中心的抵制,以及这对人工智能基础设施支出可能意味着什么。
Along with the chip names, we're also going to hear from a retail name uh the athleisure company Lululemon on Thursday. It feels like the turnaround just keeps waiting for Lululemon, Matthew.
除了芯片公司,我们周四还会听到一家零售公司的消息,就是运动休闲品牌露露乐蒙。感觉露露乐蒙的转型一直在等待中,马修。
Yes, Nathan. And this stock ticker LLU, it really is a case of low expectations. This quarter analysts are expecting revenue to just barely grow to be up about 1%. But even clearing that bar is not guaranteed. I mean, we could list a lot of headwinds facing this company. Increased competition from companies like Vori, product launch issues like the see-through leggings, criticism from their founder, Chip Wilson. And then there's the question of how much credit investors are going to give anything that they say about those issues this quarter because they have a new CEO Heidi O'Neal taking over next month.
是的,内森。这只股票代码为LULU的股票,确实是一个预期很低的案例。本季度分析师预计营收仅勉强增长约1%。但即便是跨过这个门槛也无法保证。我的意思是,我们可以列出这家公司面临的许多不利因素。来自Vori等公司的竞争加剧,产品发布问题如透视紧身裤,创始人奇普·威尔逊的批评。还有一个问题是,投资者会给他们本季度对这些问题的说法多少信任度,因为他们有一位新CEO海蒂·奥尼尔下个月上任。
That could change the narrative. It could change the strategy. Maybe it will finally put that turnaround into effect. One thing that I am going to be interested to see from this company is what they say about tariff refunds. They have spent a lot on tariffs. It's been a key cost bucket. they've said they're applying for refunds, but that they didn't factor that into guidance. So, that could be a source of upside to consensus here if those refunds come through.
这可能会改变叙事。可能会改变战略。也许最终会让转型真正生效。我感兴趣的一点是,这家公司会就关税退税说些什么。他们在关税上花了很多钱。这一直是一个关键的成本项。他们表示正在申请退税,但没有将这一点纳入指引。因此,如果这些退税到位,这可能会成为超出市场共识的一个利好来源。
Maybe not high quality, durable upside, but something that would help investors as they wait for a broader rebound in their sales. [music] The Stock Movers Report from Bloomberg Radio. Check back with us throughout the day for the latest roundup of companies making news on Wall Street. [music] And for the latest market moving headlines, listen to Bloomberg Radio Live. Catch us on YouTube, Bloomberg.com, and on Apple CarPlay and Android Auto with the Bloomberg Business App.
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