通胀温和支出疲软,美联储维持利率不变
Modest Inflation, Soft Spending Support Fed Hold
Yeah. I mean, again, as you guys know, I love to look at real final domestic to man because it takes out that sort of import noise really. Yeah. Because that's just basically what people are spending domestically is import noise from the CapEx boom. I remember we had a low GDP print because we imported a lot. And also the inventory cycle was doing what it did, which was a boost. So what's the domestic final straw? And this is what the upgrades are.
是的。我的意思是,再次强调,正如你们所知,我喜欢看真实的国内最终消费,因为它确实剔除了那种进口噪音。是的。因为那基本上就是国内消费的实际状况,进口噪音来自资本支出繁荣。我记得我们有一次GDP数据很低,因为我们进口了很多。而且库存周期也在发挥它的作用,那是一个提振。那么国内最终消费的底线是什么?这就是升级所指向的。
And they're sticking apparently in Q2, which is good because now we're starting to see the finalization of that. So we had good momentum coming into the quarter third quarter. The worry here again is that we're going to be losing some of this momentum. So this personal spending number is catching my a little. And we also recently had a big note out from Goldman basically saying that their July and August data is showing that there is a slowing in consumer, despite all the boom we're seeing at the US open, in the World Cup and all that.
而且显然在第二季度他们坚持住了,这很好,因为现在我们开始看到那方面的最终确定。所以我们进入第三季度时有良好的势头。这里的担忧再次是我们将会失去一些这种势头。所以这个个人支出数字让我有点担心。而且我们最近也收到了高盛的一份重要报告,基本上是说他们的七月和八月数据显示消费者在放缓,尽管我们在美国公开赛、世界杯等方面看到了繁荣。
So there is a little bit of a divergence here with the momentum coming out of Q2 going into Q3, where we're going to still have this fixed investment boom from CapEx and from the reshoring and from the defense spending. But the consumer itself now is looking more wavering. Can I just say Michael Ball starts talking in the ten year move, two basis points I know higher yields here right now. So. So you go out there. What is the.
所以这里有一点分歧,从第二季度进入第三季度的势头中,我们仍然会有来自资本支出、回流和国防支出的固定投资繁荣。但消费者本身现在看起来更加摇摆不定。我能说迈克尔·鲍尔开始谈论十年期走势,两个基点,我知道现在收益率更高。所以。所以你走出去。什么是。
If you were at the fed here, what would be your big concern? What would you want to get a little bit smarter at? Maybe at Jackson Hole here. Yeah. So again, this probably isn't going to be a great platform for speaking about policy okay. And its core function. Because again this is about, you know, future payment systems. And this might have to do with why crypto again is having a couple of good weeks here. It kind of falls into some of that.
如果你在美联储,你会最大的担忧是什么?你想在哪些方面变得更聪明一点?也许在杰克逊霍尔这里。是的。所以再次强调,这可能不是一个谈论政策的好平台,以及它的核心功能。因为再次强调,这是关于未来支付系统的。这可能与为什么加密货币又在这里有几周好行情有关。它有点落入那类范畴。
But to your point guys, we need to talk about what the actual structural inflation story is versus what the cyclical story is and what the fed can affect. So parse the distinction there. So that's a great question that I think they need to clarify. And I myself am not clear on because what do we want to do. Do we want to step on a CapEx inflation. No probably not. Right. We do. We want to actually look at wage inflation.
但针对你们的观点,我们需要讨论实际的结构性通胀故事与周期性故事之间的区别,以及美联储能影响什么。所以解析那里的区别。这是一个很好的问题,我认为他们需要澄清。而我自己也不清楚,因为我们想要做什么。我们想要踩住资本支出通胀吗?不,可能不是。对吧。我们确实想要关注工资通胀。
Well, that's not actually going to to going anywhere. So then you have a case to hold. So there are plenty of things to cut and uh, parse through as far as the inflation picture, which exactly why we hear from Walker said he wants to take a different look at it. Second quarter GDP price index 6.2, which is ginormous. And it came in even bigger than that 6.4%. That's not a normal economy, is it? No. Again. And it's it's a tale of two stories.
嗯,那实际上不会有什么进展。所以你得有个箱子来装。关于通胀图景,有很多东西可以剖析和梳理,这正是为什么我们听到沃克说他想换个角度看。第二季度GDP价格指数为6.2,这数字巨大。而且实际公布值甚至比6.4%还高。这不是正常的经济,对吧?不,再说一遍。这是两个故事的交织。
Here we have, uh, you know, a real drive, not only from a build out, but also from our own government to kind of reassure. And then obviously, we had a lot of defense spending coming through now. So the fiscal pulse has been quite strong. That's expected to fade into year end. But that's clearly reflected in Q2 data. And again the momentum right now is pretty strong. So we are looking at an economy that is above trend.
这里我们看到了,嗯,你知道,不仅有来自建设扩张的真正动力,也有来自我们政府自身的某种安抚。然后显然,我们现在看到了大量国防开支。所以财政脉冲一直相当强劲。预计到年底会减弱。但这在第二季度数据中明显体现出来。而且目前势头确实很强。所以我们看到的是一个高于趋势水平的经济。
And that is a problem for the fed. All right. Given that inflation remains stickier in that kind of backdrop uh, the world interest rate fund probably blah blah blah blah market's pricing in a one rate hike by the end of the year. I don't know, how do you think that looks these days? The after July, when we had to the lack of communication from the press conference, that's exactly where it went to. Okay. And it actually we crept into January and out of December.
这对美联储来说是个问题。好吧。鉴于在这种背景下通胀仍然顽固,嗯,世界利率基金可能吧啦吧啦吧啦,市场定价年底前加息一次。我不知道,你觉得现在这看起来怎么样?在七月之后,当我们经历了新闻发布会缺乏沟通的情况,那正是它走向的方向。好吧。而且实际上我们悄悄进入了1月,而不是12月。
Now the idea being if they don't go, you know, in September, which again, it's not looking too good as far as what probability is. Now let's keep in mind we went into July. I think we are somewhere around between 30 and 40% chance anyway, and that was one of the lowest probabilities going into a meeting, which goes to show this new era where the chairman doesn't want to guide marketing to a meeting. So we need to get accustomed to this new reality.
现在的想法是,如果他们不在9月行动,你知道,就概率而言,那看起来不太妙。现在我们要记住,我们进入了7月。我想我们当时大概有30%到40%的概率,那是进入会议前最低的概率之一,这说明了这个新时代,主席不想引导市场走向某次会议。所以我们需要适应这个新现实。
I just found this statistic I was looking for. Thank you Google Gemini for this. Nominal GDP ending second quarter. First look an annualized rate of 7.9%. I have never perceived that in my academic life. I've never witnessed it. That's something I get out of Southeast Asia. You know, given a war going on. You know what I mean? We mean, you have talked about this for a couple of months now, that this celebration sort of intense broadening as we get the consumer was active in Q2.
我刚找到了我在找的那个统计数据。谢谢谷歌双子座。第二季度结束时的名义GDP。初步数据显示年化率为7.9%。在我的学术生涯中,我从未见过这个数字。我从未目睹过。那是我从东南亚看到的数字。你知道,考虑到正在进行的战争。你明白我的意思吗?我是说,你已经谈了好几个月了,随着消费者在第二季度活跃起来,这种庆祝有点强烈地扩大开来。
This is why the market is doing quite well. The stock market I mean, this is why it's not about I anymore and momentum higher beta trading. It's about a broadening and a rotation into more cyclical parts of it. Understand Druckenmiller I'm going to say look I took this off I and along smarter than me. She's going to figure this statistic out. But Paul Point 9% run rate. A nominal GDP, I think tells me in no way, shape or form is this a normal Jackson Hole?
这就是为什么市场表现相当不错。我指的是股市,这就是为什么现在不再只是关于人工智能和动量更高的贝塔交易。而是关于市场拓宽和向更具周期性的板块轮动。理解德鲁肯米勒,我要说,看,我撤掉了这个人工智能头寸,比我聪明的人还在。她会算出这个统计数据的。但保罗·9%的增长率,名义GDP,我认为告诉我,无论如何,这都不是一个正常的杰克逊霍尔会议?
No. I'd be interesting to see kind of how people factor in today's data into the discussion. I might go. How much of economic growth at that number? Tom just quoted? How much of all this is I spending a good chunk of it. And again, that's sort of where we get this kind of tale. Two cities. And I'm again going back to this real personal spending being zero. It's good that income was up. When we adjust that though for inflation that's obviously going to be lower.
不。我很有兴趣看看人们如何将今天的数据纳入讨论。我可能会说,经济增长中有多少是这个数字?汤姆刚才引用的?其中有多少是人工智能支出,占了很大一部分。而且,这又回到了我们这种双城记的情况。我再次回到实际个人支出为零这一点。收入上升是好事。但当我们根据通胀调整后,那显然会更低。
But what we need to see is it's not just a fixed investment boom in a certain pocket that now has become highly political and very uncertain and also very expensive, meaning that every kind of buck they're spending in CapEx now gets less marginal compute because everyone's kind of rushing into, you know, one door at the same time. I didn't think about that. So we want to see the broadening out, and we want to see the consumer play its role.
但我们需要看到的是,这不仅仅是某个特定领域的固定投资繁荣,这个领域现在变得高度政治化、非常不确定,而且也非常昂贵,意味着他们在资本支出上花的每一块钱现在获得的边际计算收益都在减少,因为每个人都同时涌向同一扇门。我之前没想到这一点。所以我们希望看到拓宽,我们希望看到消费者发挥作用。
And again, the worry is that we are going to become more tapped out as people are going into savings, you know, going up in credit spending. But, you know, this has been a story I've been told from quarters now, and that the resilience of the consumer has kind of baffled everyone and continued so I'm not calling for an immediate end. I'm just saying this is where all eyes are. How urgent is it to get the run rate of our economy down, to begin to get inflation back, to forget about mandates, forget about Taylor and the rest of it?
而且,再次,担心的是我们会变得更加捉襟见肘,因为人们开始动用储蓄,你知道,信贷支出在上升。但是,你知道,这是几个季度以来我一直被告知的故事,消费者的韧性让所有人都感到困惑,并且持续了下去,所以我不呼吁立即结束。我只是说这是所有目光聚焦的地方。降低我们经济增速的紧迫性有多大,开始让通胀回落,忘记任务,忘记泰勒规则和其他一切?
What's the urgency to get the vector on inflation lower? I mean, one would argue not urgent or they would have gone in July. There's been no material change which is not urgent with a banana republic nominal GDP. I need a lot of theories on that. We don't want to step on sort of the overall consumer by raising, you know, rates and tightening Main Street while trying to pop maybe a financial okay, so soft and real assets and holds a political fed could be they can't step on half of America flat on their back.
降低通胀趋势的紧迫性是什么?我的意思是,有人会说并不紧迫,否则他们会在七月份就行动了。没有实质性的变化,而名义GDP并不紧迫,像香蕉共和国一样。我对此有很多理论。我们不想通过加息来踩踏整体消费者,你知道,在试图刺破可能存在的金融泡沫时收紧主街,而同时软着陆和实物资产,以及一个政治化的美联储,他们可能无法踩踏一半美国经济,让他们趴在地上。
Yeah. Because somebody is paying Paul Sweeney ticket prices at the US open. But this is a divergence. Like when you heard from Hammock and Logan, they're talking about what their businesses are telling them. The cost increases. They're the problems they're having with managing that. And when you talk to some of the other guys, the more guys they're talking about Main Street and they're talking about the consumer wants to get one more quickly.
是的。因为有人在为保罗·斯威尼支付美国公开赛的门票价格。但这里出现了分歧。比如当你听到哈莫克和洛根的话,他们谈论的是他们的业务所反映的情况。成本上升,这是他们在管理过程中遇到的问题。而当你和其他一些人交谈时,他们更多谈论的是主街,以及消费者希望更快获得商品的需求。
Beth Hammack, I believe, leading our coverage on Friday. Very good. Um, Nvidia, after the close tonight, what's a macro guy take away from Nvidia? What are you gonna be looking for? Yeah. So I've been looking sort of for Nvidia to reassert this kind of AI CapEx winter momentum, which is cooled and actually kind of split open. Right. So there's certain parts of AI still doing well, like optics and memory, where you seen some of the core chip guys and others lose momentum.
贝丝·哈马克,我相信,周五由她主导我们的报道。很好。嗯,英伟达,今晚收盘后,宏观分析师从英伟达能得到什么信息?你会关注什么?是的。所以我一直在关注英伟达能否重新确立这种AI资本开支的冬季势头,这种势头已经降温,实际上还出现了分化。没错。所以AI的某些部分仍然表现良好,比如光学和内存,而一些核心芯片公司和其他公司则失去了动力。
And it's been more of a divergent trade versus this just higher bein
这更多是一种分化交易,而不是单纯看涨。
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