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聚变公司获重大资金支持,融资总额达40亿美元

Fusion Firm Gets Major Monetary Boost

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Bob, I'm going to put that physics question to you. In the beginning, conventional nuclear energy, which thanks to well, Wade, I was reminded this vision non-conventional like you're working on is fusion. Explain the difference in, you know, laypersons terms. Maybe we took physics 25 years ago. Yeah, yeah. So, you know, they differ by, you know, only a few letters there, but they're actually super, super different in the physics.

鲍勃,我要把那个物理问题抛给你。一开始,传统核能,多亏了韦德,我记起来了,你研究的这种非传统核能是核聚变。用外行的话解释一下区别,好吗?也许我们25年前学过物理。是的,是的。所以,你知道,它们在字母上只差几个字母,但在物理学上其实超级、超级不同。

They're the, the opposite. So, um, in fission, nuclear power as it exists today, we split the atom, take the heavy ones uranium, and split them, cause a chain reaction, keeps splitting that and fuel rods. That's our reactors today. Um, infusion. It's actually the process that starts at the beginning of the Big Bang. It's in the stars, where we take the smallest atoms and we put them together. And in doing so, we release a lot of energy.

它们是相反的。所以,嗯,在裂变中,也就是今天存在的核能,我们分裂原子,拿重的铀原子,把它们分裂,引发链式反应,不断分裂燃料棒。这就是我们今天的反应堆。嗯,聚变呢,实际上是宇宙大爆炸开始时启动的过程。它发生在恒星中,我们把最小的原子放在一起。这样做时,我们释放大量能量。

There's no chain reaction, there's no uranium, there's no plutonium. So it's the combining of the atoms. And they, you know, both release a large amount of energy without a lot of mass, which is why they're so interesting as energy sources. Um, but they have, you know, very, very different types of, uh, machines that you built to do them. So, Bob, we love the idea, but it's it's really hard to do. It's it's never been done outside of lab.

没有链式反应,没有铀,没有钚。所以是原子的结合。而且,你知道,两者都在没有大量质量的情况下释放大量能量,这就是为什么它们作为能源如此有趣。嗯,但是,你知道,建造来做这些的机器类型非常、非常不同。所以,鲍勃,我们喜欢这个想法,但这真的很难做到。这在实验室之外从未实现过。

How do we know that you can actually do this? Yeah. So we realized how the stars worked. You know, about 100 years ago, which seems like a long time ago, but in terms of understanding, you know, basic physical processes that are inside, uh, many of the things we do every day. That's not that long ago. And over the what the in particular the last 30 years, we really figured out the right conditions needed for this reaction to occur.

我们怎么知道你真的能做到这个?是的。所以我们大约在100年前意识到恒星是如何工作的,这看起来是很久以前,但就理解我们每天做的许多事情内部的基本物理过程而言,那不算太久。特别是在过去30年里,我们真正搞清楚了发生这种反应所需的条件。

Um, and it's really hot. It's it's really dense. It's it has to be inside specially built machines. But we've built now a bunch of them and of the type of machine that we build at CFS, we built about 150 of them and they've gotten better and better and better every iteration. And the science of how these work, we've studied at national labs and universities, and that's gotten more and more precise in just about three years ago.

嗯,它非常热。它非常密集。它必须在特制的机器内部进行。但我们现在已经建了一批,在我们CFS建造的那种机器中,我们建了大约150台,每一代都越来越好。这些机器如何工作的科学,我们在国家实验室和大学里研究过,变得越来越精确,就在大约三年前。

We had the first time on Earth where humans actually created the conditions where more power came from. The reaction than it took to started out as a big laser in California called NIF. So we've now had that proof of principle, but really in a way that you make a power plant. But the right physical reaction on top of this march forward in the science and and so that gives people confidence, including, you know, us and our investors, but we still are doing the science and publishing the results.

我们在地球上首次实现了人类真正创造出更多能量来源的条件。这一反应最初源于加州一个名为NIF的大型激光装置。我们现在已经证明了这一原理,但真正要将其转化为发电厂,还需要在科学进步的基础上实现正确的物理反应。这给了人们信心,包括我们和我们的投资者,但我们仍在进行科学研究并发布成果。

And and we're really looking forward to the machine that's being built where I am here in Davos, Massachusetts. Um, that is taking and building on the next step of this, which is to build a machine that can make this reaction go at very vigorous amounts of energy at an industrial scale. Bob, you've raised about $4 billion, including $1 billion recently. Where's all this money actually going and how much more of it do you think that you need before you're producing power?

我们非常期待正在建造的那台机器,我所在的位置是马萨诸塞州达沃斯。这台机器是在此基础上迈出的下一步,即建造一台能够以工业规模产生巨大能量的机器。鲍勃,你已经筹集了约40亿美元,最近又增加了10亿美元。这些钱到底花在了哪里,你认为在开始发电之前还需要多少资金?

So you know that the the 4 billion that we've raised and that comes from a wide set of investors that range from, uh, venture capitalists and, and high net worth individuals to start and moving up the chain into energy companies. Who are investors in US, Google, industrials and now uh, infrastructure investors and uh, and pension funds. So it's going to up the, the chain as the risk is going down because we're building things.

你知道我们筹集的40亿美元来自广泛的投资者,从风险投资家和高净值个人,到能源公司,再到谷歌、工业企业,现在还有基础设施投资者和养老基金。随着风险降低,资金链也在向上延伸,因为我们正在建设实体项目。

So that money has been spent to um, not all of it, but um, has been spent to build a technology of very high field magnets that really open up the ability to make this reaction more, more commercially relevant, more compact. It's also gone into, uh, building, uh, the demonstration facility I mentioned, which is called spark. And that facility is largely complete now. And this additional money we raised just recently that is now setting up to, to start to build, um, the first commercial plant.

这些资金已经用于——不是全部,但大部分——开发高场磁体技术,这项技术真正打开了使这一反应更具商业相关性、更紧凑的可能性。资金也用于建设我之前提到的示范设施,名为Spark。该设施目前已基本完工。我们最近筹集的额外资金现在正用于启动第一座商业工厂的建设。

So sparks that demonstrator. Now we're thinking about designing, prototyping, siting. The first plant is intended to produce commercial amounts of electricity. This raised today is not enough to actually go build that plant, but enough to get started on the design. Some of the prep work work to raise more to go build it. Um, you know, that'll be a couple more billion dollars, depending on exactly how we slice it. And, um, uh, different parties around the table, but it puts us in the right regime where we can now start to see what that first fusion power plant on the grid, um, could look like.

Spark就是那个示范装置。现在我们正在考虑设计、原型制作和选址。第一座工厂旨在生产商业规模的电力。今天筹集的资金不足以实际建造那座工厂,但足以启动设计工作。一些准备工作是为了筹集更多资金来建造它。你知道,那还需要几十亿美元,具体取决于我们如何分配。而且,不同参与方都在谈判桌上,但这使我们处于正确的阶段,现在可以开始设想第一座并网聚变发电厂可能是什么样子。

You know, what I find really interesting is the way you just described the the shift in your investors. And most recently, you said you're getting it from pension funds, notoriously risk averse money here. Money coming into something that, you know, it's still, you know, kind of untested and unproven. Do you think that says that there's more confidence that you guys are going to be able to make this happen? I do it's definitely tied to the fact that it's tangible.

你知道吗,我觉得真正有趣的是你刚才描述投资者转变的方式。最近你说资金来自养老基金,这些是出了名厌恶风险的资金。这些钱投入到尚未经过充分测试和验证的事物中。你认为这是否表明大家更有信心你们能实现这一目标?确实如此,这肯定与项目的实体性有关。

You can show up at our facility at national labs and universities. You can see it. And then in our execution, you know, we've done a, uh, very, uh, deliberate set of milestones that you can see go. We've also been very transparent. We've we've peer reviewed, we've published, we've partnered with, uh, the Department of Energy, who has convened panels to look at the plans and provide their point of view. And we've done this in this sort of open way that gives people more and more confidence.

你可以到我们在国家实验室和大学的设施参观,亲眼看到实物。而在执行方面,我们设定了一系列精心设计的里程碑,你可以看到进展。我们也非常透明。我们进行了同行评审,发表了论文,并与能源部合作,他们召集了专家组审查计划并提供意见。我们以这种开放的方式行事,让人们越来越有信心。

It's also having the same time that the need for energy is increasingly important and increasingly stark. As we look at what's going to power, I, we look at what's going to power, uh, electrification. And we see energy as a differentiator among nations. So the the draw on the market side is also there. In addition, the fusion industry as an industry is more established. There's more companies were the largest, but we're not the only.

与此同时,能源需求的重要性日益凸显,形势也日益严峻。当我们思考什么将为电气化提供动力时,我们看到能源成为国家间的差异化因素。因此市场方面的吸引力也存在。此外,聚变行业作为一个产业更加成熟了。有更多公司参与其中,我们是最大的,但不是唯一的。

So there's more to grab on here. At the same time, we have existence proofs now where investments in what were at the time somewhat, um, uh, you know, sort of areas that governments are played in alone. Well, these early path breakers, like SpaceX going from government, uh, rockets to private rockets, that's been lucrative. That's been a good investment for long hold, uh, deep capital to put a piece of it into that. And you can see that in some of the pension funds exposure long term to the space and the IPO.

所以这里有更多可以抓住的机会。同时,我们现在有了存在性证明,即对当时政府独自参与的领域的投资。这些早期的开拓者,比如SpaceX从政府火箭转向私人火箭,已经获得了丰厚回报。对于长期持有的深度资本来说,投入一部分是笔好投资。你可以从一些养老基金对太空领域和IPO的长期敞口中看到这一点。

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