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加密与金融监管交叉的重大事件:特朗普家族关联实体获准筹建银行,且OCC审批加速为近20年最快,对稳定币及加密金融牌照格局有结构性影响,建议关注后续牌照落地及业务进展。

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You're listening to Bloomberg Business Week with Carol Masser and Tim Stenc on Bloomberg Radio. Well, President Trump's family is on the verge of having its very own bank. The president's relatives and their business associates have won preliminary approval to start one, riding a wave that doesn't come around often. It's now easier than at any time in almost 20 years to get a national bank charter thanks to the Trump administration's deregulation push.

您正在收听的是彭博广播电台的《彭博商业周刊》,由卡罗尔·马瑟和蒂姆·斯坦克主持。特朗普总统的家族即将拥有自己的银行。总统的亲属及其商业伙伴已获得初步批准,准备创办一家银行,乘着这股难得一遇的浪潮。得益于特朗普政府的放松监管政策,如今获得国家银行牌照比近20年来的任何时候都更容易。

I'm reading right from one of the most read stories on the Bloomberg terminal. It is today's big take. Paige Smith is Bloomberg News finance reporter. She's part of the team behind the story. She joins us here in the Bloomberg Interactive Brokers studio. The process for getting a national bank charter. Before we get into what the president's family is doing and what World Liberty Financial is doing, which you detail in the piece, just talk to us about how that how that happens and how it traditionally works.

我正在阅读彭博终端上阅读量最高的报道之一,这是今天的重磅新闻。佩奇·史密斯是彭博新闻的金融记者,她是这篇报道背后的团队一员。她加入了我们在彭博盈透证券工作室的节目。关于获得国家银行牌照的过程,在我们深入探讨总统家族正在做什么以及世界自由金融公司正在做什么之前——这些你在文章中都有详细描述——先跟我们聊聊这个过程是如何发生的,以及传统上是如何运作的。

Certainly. So, first of all, I think it's important to note that there are a number of different bank charters that anyone or any entity can pursue at any given time. The uh president's family is pursuing a trust charter and has received conditional approval from one financial regulator to do that. Um that regulator is the office of the controller of the currency. Um

当然。首先,我认为重要的是要指出,任何个人或实体在任何时候都可以申请多种不同的银行牌照。总统家族正在申请一种信托牌照,并已获得一家金融监管机构的有条件批准。该监管机构是货币监理署。

the OC

OCC

the OC as we know it. Um run by Jonathan Gould who is actually a Trump appointee himself. Um so there are a lot of different charters that anyone can pursue. Um take New Bank for example, a really well-known fintech in that's Brazil based. Um they've received approval to be a national bank. So it's slightly different um and maybe a little bit more vanilla or bread and butter than uh a trust bank for example.

就是我们熟知的OCC,由乔纳森·古尔德领导,他本人实际上是特朗普任命的官员。所以,任何人都可以申请多种不同的牌照。以Nubank为例,这是一家总部位于巴西的知名金融科技公司,他们已获得批准成为国家银行。这与信托银行相比略有不同,可能更传统或更基础一些。

Huh. So I mean the Trump family now on the verge though of having its own bank. What exactly are they trying to build?

嗯。那么,我的意思是,特朗普家族现在即将拥有自己的银行。他们到底想建立什么样的机构?

So the entity is known as World Liberty Financial and it's owned by u members of the Trump family and their business associates. Um and they are best known for a stable coin called USD1. And when they received this conditional approval and also before they received approval when they were applying um World Liberty Financial essentially said that they want to um grow the reach of the stable coin and um build out the business um build out that business specifically.

该实体名为世界自由金融,由特朗普家族成员及其商业伙伴所有。他们最出名的是名为USD1的稳定币。当他们获得有条件批准时,以及在获批前申请过程中,世界自由金融基本上表示,他们希望扩大稳定币的覆盖范围,并发展壮大这项业务,具体来说就是发展这项业务。

You make the point in your piece uh that there have been other presidents who've had connections to the financial industry. Uh the Roosevelts operated their New York-based financial firm for more than a century. You write I learned from your reporting that George HW Bush's father was managing partner of the financial services firm Brown Brothers Haramman. Uh but have is there any precedent for a sitting president to have uh children who are actually are starting a bank?

你在文章中提出,曾有其他总统与金融行业有联系。罗斯福家族经营其纽约的金融公司超过一个世纪。我从你的报道中了解到,乔治·H·W·布什的父亲是金融服务公司Brown Brothers Haramman的管理合伙人。但是,是否有任何现任总统的子女真的在创办银行的先例呢?

As far as we know, there's not. This is a sort of one. This is uh as far as we've reported, this is the first time that something like this has occurred. Um and it is really noteworthy because like I mentioned, the um the application was reviewed by staff members at the OC and leaders of that agency were appointed by this sitting president, by President Donald Trump. For those out there uh watching or listening right now who might say, "Wait a second, there is a conflict of interest or there could be the appearance of a conflict of interest."

据我们所知,没有。这是独一无二的。根据我们的报道,这是首次发生此类事件。这确实值得注意,因为如我所述,该申请由OC的工作人员审查,而该机构的领导是由现任总统唐纳德·特朗普任命的。对于那些正在观看或收听的人可能会说:“等等,这里存在利益冲突,或者可能存在利益冲突的表象。”

You and the team reached out to the White House. What did they say? The White House essentially said that there is no conflict of interest here. And when we looked at the actual documents approving this entity to become a bank, um they acknowledged that members of the public had raised the question or raised the question of the appearance of um conflicts of interest and essentially said senior members of the OC have reviewed this application and it may move forward.

你和团队联系了白宫。他们怎么说?白宫基本上表示这里不存在利益冲突。当我们查看批准该实体成为银行的实际文件时,他们承认公众成员提出了关于利益冲突表象的问题,并基本上表示OC的高级成员已审查此申请,可以继续推进。

So why exactly does World uh Liberty Financial want to become a bank in the first place?

那么,World Liberty Financial究竟为何首先想要成为一家银行呢?

So there are a lot of reasons for becoming a bank. Cheaper funding is one of them, but especially at this moment in time, if you think about it, if you're a bank in the US financial system, that comes with a level of legitimacy and um sort of an an it's an inherent stamp of approval from the US government to operate. And that's a big deal when you're a smaller digital asset firm or a fintech or an upand cominging entity to be able to say we have been approved by this US financial regulator to operate in the US financial system.

成为银行有很多原因。更便宜的资金来源是其中之一,但尤其是在当前时刻,你想想,如果你是美国金融体系中的一家银行,那就意味着一定程度的合法性,并且这是美国政府对其运营的固有批准印章。对于一家较小的数字资产公司、金融科技公司或新兴实体来说,能够说我们已获得美国金融监管机构的批准,可以在美国金融体系中运营,这是非常重要的。

That's a big deal.

这非常重要。

So what I found to be particularly interesting is in the piece, you know, you essentially note that this isn't happening in isolation. You found that it's easier to get a national bank charter right now than it was maybe uh 20 years ago in the past. So what is that

我觉得特别有趣的是,在文章中,你基本上指出这并非孤立发生。你发现现在获得国家银行执照比大约20年前更容易。那么这是怎么回事呢?

or maybe even during the Biden administration? Fair, fair play.

或者甚至比拜登政府时期更容易?公平,公平。

So, what's changed?

那么,发生了什么变化呢?

Really, the pace has changed. It's the If you We include a number of graphics in the story that I would encourage everyone to read um that really note just how different it is, the timing is from the point of application to some sort of a decision, whether an approval or a disapproval or um any sort of decision on a bank charter. So that pace has really been expedited. But also just the number of banks that are being approved.

确实,节奏已经改变了。这是如果你,我们在报道中加入了多张图表,我鼓励大家去阅读,这些图表真正指出了差异有多大,从申请到某种决定——无论是批准、否决还是任何关于银行执照的决定——的时间。所以这个节奏确实加快了。而且获批银行的数量也增加了。

The first n in the first 19 months of the president's second term, the OC approved 22 bank charters. That's more than the f previous five years combined.

在总统第二任期的头19个月里,OC批准了22个银行执照。这比之前五年的总和还要多。

You know, you've done a lot of reporting on on fintexs and traditionally with with fintexs, they they haven't actually been banks. what they've been is like, okay, well, if you deposit money or you put your money with this fintech, they hold it in a bank that they have a partnership with. Is that changing? Because it is easier to become a bank. Now,

你知道,你对金融科技公司做了很多报道,传统上,金融科技公司实际上并不是银行。它们的情况是,如果你存钱或把钱放在这家金融科技公司,它们会把钱存放在与之合作的银行里。这种情况在改变吗?因为现在成为银行更容易了。

that's such a good question. So, it is changing in some ways, but it's not changing entirely. So, for example, some um there may be some banks that will still work with a third-party bank for another branch of their business. When you apply to become a bank or a new bank as a fintech, you have to make a present a very clear plan of how you plan on operating for the next few years. So if an opportunity presents itself and you deviate from that plan in any way, you can't do that under the plan.

这个问题问得很好。所以,在某些方面确实在改变,但并没有完全改变。例如,一些银行可能仍会为业务的另一分支与第三方银行合作。当你作为金融科技公司申请成为银行或新银行时,你必须提交一份非常清晰的计划,说明你计划在未来几年如何运营。所以,如果出现了一个机会,而你在任何方面偏离了该计划,你不能在计划范围内这样做。

You can't you need to make perhaps have a third party relationship with someone else to execute that new opportunity. So if we were to zoom out, are we like essentially running an experiment here or you know what happens when you suddenly allow many of these crypto and fintech companies to actually go this route into traditional banking?

你不能,你可能需要与其他人建立第三方关系来执行这个新机会。所以,如果我们退一步看,我们基本上是在进行一项实验,还是说,你知道,当你突然允许许多这样的加密货币和金融科技公司真正走上这条进入传统银行业的道路时,会发生什么?

I think that is a great question and I think we're going to have to see how it plays out. Um I would note that a a lot of these a some of these companies have operated before, a lot of them have not.

我认为这是一个很好的问题,我认为我们必须看看它会如何发展。我想指出的是,这些公司中很多,一些公司以前运营过,很多没有。

Um some of these companies are coming from other countries, some of them are US-based. It really is a very interesting moment time moment in time and a moment in history to see how these sort of non-traditional firms will fare within the parameters of the US financial system.

嗯,一些公司来自其他国家,一些总部在美国。这确实是一个非常有趣的时刻,一个历史性的时刻,看看这些非传统公司在美国金融体系的框架内会表现如何。

You go through some of the firms you mentioned new bank for example. There's also um I'm not a Lord of the Rings guy so I don't know if I'm going to say Arabore is that it's all everything with Palmer Lucky is Lord of the Rings I guess. I don't know. So okay Arabore bank with Palmer Lucky is the guy behind that. He's the guy behind Anderil and Oculus which was acquired by what was then Facebook.

你提到了其中一些公司,比如新银行。还有,呃,我不是《指环王》的粉丝,所以我不知道我是否该说Arabore,是不是和Palmer Lucky有关的一切都是《指环王》的梗。我不确定。好吧,那么Arabore银行,Palmer Lucky是背后的那个人。他是Anderil和Oculus背后的那个人,而Oculus后来被当时的Facebook收购了。

Why should Arabore be on our radar?

为什么Arabore应该引起我们的关注?

I think that it this influx of new banks should be on everyone's radars to see first of all how successful they can be within the parameters of the tradition traditional system but also to see if they slip up in any way. Frankly, um I think that it is the job of the regulators to monitor that and it sounds like they have they intend to do so to watch these players clo

我认为这股新银行的涌入应该引起所有人的关注,首先看看它们在传统体系的框架内能取得多大成功,同时也要看看它们是否有任何失误。坦率地说,呃,我认为监管机构有责任去监控这一点,而且听起来它们已经打算这样做了,密切关注这些参与者。

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