CFTC主席:无论法案是否通过,都将为加密行业制定规则
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I'm Tyler Kendall here at the CFTC, where I'm joined now by the agency's chair, Michael Seelig. Mr. chairman, it's nice to see you as always. I saw you yesterday at the white House for this event alongside President Trump, where he was really pushing for passage of the Clarity Act. Let's just get a lay of the land first. Senate's going to vote on this September 15th. How confident are you and the administration it's going to get over the finish line?
我是泰勒·肯德尔,现在在商品期货交易委员会(CFTC),我身边是该机构的主席迈克尔·西利格。主席先生,很高兴再次见到您。我昨天在白宫与特朗普总统一起参加了那个活动,他当时确实在大力推动《清晰法案》的通过。让我们先了解一下基本情况。参议院将于9月15日对该法案进行投票。您和政府对于该法案能否顺利通过有多大信心?
We're very optimistic that we're going to get clear rules of the road for crypto asset market structure on the books, and this vote is critical. We've got to get the Democrats to come along with us. They have really obstructed we want their support. This should be bipartisan. The bill passed the House in a bipartisan fashion. And we've got this bill in the Senate. It's very similar. We want to get it across the line.
我们非常乐观,相信能够为加密资产市场结构制定出明确的规则,这次投票至关重要。我们必须让民主党人与我们合作。他们确实设置了障碍,我们希望得到他们的支持。这应该是两党共同支持的事情。该法案在众议院以两党合作的方式通过了。我们在参议院也有这个法案,内容非常相似。我们希望它能顺利通过。
It needs to be a fair bill, a bill that isn't targeting the president or anybody else. It should be neutral and apply to everybody in the same way. We're really excited to get this bill across the line. CFTC stands ready to implement upon the passage of the bill. Just to quickly follow up on that, was there any discussion yesterday about any updated ethics provisions related to the bill? Well, the ethics probation is under negotiation.
这必须是一个公平的法案,一个不针对总统或任何其他人的法案。它应该是中立的,对所有人都一视同仁。我们非常兴奋能够推动该法案通过。CFTC已准备好在该法案通过后立即实施。就这一点快速追问一下,昨天有没有讨论与法案相关的最新道德条款?嗯,道德条款正在谈判中。
We're looking forward to seeing a fair ethics provision that's not targeting the president or anybody else. As I said, if clarity stalls or fails to pass, the CFTC has signaled that it's prepared to unilaterally dial up oversight. What would that look like? What sort of rulemaking are you prepared to take in that scenario? The CFTC has a lot of authority, and we're not afraid to use that authority. The president has promised market structure for the crypto industry, and that's what we're going to do, whether we have a bill or not.
我们期待看到一个公平的道德条款,不针对总统或任何其他人。正如我所说,如果《清晰法案》停滞或未能通过,CFTC已表示准备单方面加强监管。那会是什么样子?在这种情况下,您准备采取什么样的规则制定?CFTC拥有很大的权力,我们不害怕使用这些权力。总统已经承诺为加密行业提供市场结构,这就是我们将要做的,无论是否有法案。
But we're optimistic the bill is going to set the standard. We really want the United States to lead. And having legislation clear law on the books is the most surefire way to lock in crypto market structure. And so that's what we're focused on today. But for my clarity, if clarity doesn't pass, you're still going to pursue regulation related to this. Well, absolutely. It's really important that we have market structure.
但我们乐观地认为该法案将树立标准。我们真的希望美国能够领先。拥有成文的法律是锁定加密市场结构最可靠的方式。这就是我们今天关注的重点。但为了明确起见,如果《清晰法案》未能通过,您仍将继续推进相关监管。嗯,当然。拥有市场结构非常重要。
We can do that through rules. We can do that through laws. The CFTC has a lot of authority under its existing statutes, as do other agencies. And if we have to utilize that authority to create rules without the supporting legislation will do it. But of course, legislation is the priority. That's what we want to see. America needs clear rules on the books. We'll use rules if we have to, but we're going to focus on the lot today, right?
我们可以通过规则来实现这一点。我们可以通过法律来实现。CFTC在其现有法规下拥有很大的权力,其他机构也是如此。如果必须利用这些权力在没有配套立法的情况下制定规则,我们会这样做。但当然,立法是优先事项。这是我们希望看到的。美国需要明确的法律条文。如果必要,我们会使用规则,但今天我们主要关注立法,对吧?
Because, uh, in theory, the or not in theory. In reality, the Clarity Act is there to codify this into law. So I'm just wondering how you're thinking about the future here to ensure that if there is a Democratic CFTC under a different administration, it wouldn't unwind all the work that you'd be doing. We're, of course, going to look to the bipartisan efforts on the Hill no matter what. If we have legislation will implement that legislation, if we don't have legislation, will, of course, utilize that existing work that's been developed on the Hill and utilize our existing authorities and do what we can to set rules of the road for crypto.
因为,嗯,理论上,或者不是理论上。实际上,《清晰法案》就是为了将其编入法律。所以我想知道您如何看待未来,以确保如果在一个不同的政府下有一个民主党领导的CFTC,它不会撤销您正在做的所有工作。我们当然会关注国会的两党努力,无论怎样。如果我们有立法,我们将执行该立法;如果我们没有立法,我们当然会利用国会已经开展的工作,并利用我们现有的权力,尽我们所能为加密货币制定规则。
But the bill is really the priority. The bill has to get passed. Last question on this. Just to try to get a little bit more information, is there a timeline that you're looking at where you would act? Are you already preparing any of this action or does it have to happen once we see ultimately, the fate of that bill? I've asked the staff to explore and evaluate potential rule makings utilizing our existing authority, but we're focused on the bill today until we get that across the line, until we have an answer on where the bill's going.
但法案确实是优先事项。法案必须通过。最后一个问题。为了获取更多信息,您是否有行动的时间表?您是否已经在准备这些行动,还是必须等到我们看到法案的最终命运?我已经要求工作人员利用我们现有的权力探索和评估潜在的规则制定,但今天我们专注于法案,直到我们通过它,直到我们对法案的走向有了答案。
We're not going to propose any new rules. Okay. Fair enough. I have to ask you about the other side of this remit as well. Of course. Prediction markets. This might be the first election where the public at large seems hyper aware of prediction markets. How are you thinking about policing against insider trading when it comes to political event contracts? And in particular, should we expect the CFTC to release any specific guidance ahead of the midterms?
我们不会提出任何新规则。好的,明白了。我还必须问您关于这个职责范围的另一面。当然。预测市场。这可能是第一次公众似乎高度关注预测市场的选举。您如何看待在政治事件合约方面防范内幕交易?特别是,我们是否应该期待CFTC在中期选举前发布任何具体指导?
Absolutely. We're utilizing all of our authorities to police these markets. They are derivatives markets within our exclusive jurisdiction, and we take that responsibility very seriously. There's two things that we're looking for. One is insider trading as you mentioned. The other is just fraud or manipulation. We saw a number of cases. Some of them have become public. Others were still investigating where there's just fraud, right?
当然。我们正在动用所有权限来监管这些市场。它们是我们专属管辖范围内的衍生品市场,我们非常重视这一责任。我们关注两件事。一是你提到的内幕交易。二是欺诈或操纵。我们看到了一些案例。其中一些已经公开。其他仍在调查中,只是欺诈,对吧?
Somebody makes a statement and then takes a position on the other side. That, of course, is not legal within our framework. But there's also insider trading where people are misappropriating nonpublic material information that they obtain, whether it's from their employer, from their client, whatever. Right. They take that information and they trade on it. That's insider trading. It's no different if it's a security, a commodities contract or an event contract.
有人发表声明,然后采取相反立场。这当然在我们的框架内是不合法的。但也有内幕交易,即人们盗用他们获得的非公开重要信息,无论是来自雇主、客户还是其他来源。对。他们利用这些信息进行交易。这就是内幕交易。无论是证券、商品合约还是事件合约,都没有区别。
And so we take that responsibility very seriously. But any firm guidance from your agency ahead of Election Day? We've put out a number of, uh, advisories and reports and that sort of thing. We've settled a handful of actions will continue to do so in terms of our enforcement advisories. We believe that the rules are very clear, our statutes very clear. There isn't really any needed guidance necessarily on insider trading or manipulation.
因此,我们非常重视这一责任。但在选举日之前,你的机构会发布任何指导吗?我们已经发布了一些咨询、报告等。我们已经解决了一些行动,将继续在执法咨询方面这样做。我们认为规则非常明确,法规也非常明确。在内幕交易或操纵方面,实际上并不需要任何额外的指导。
We may put out further advisories, but we're focused on building the policy side, the rulemaking, and then policing these through actual investigations and bringing actions against bad actors, just as you did bring up investigations very quickly. Can I ask you, uh, related to news of the day the markets are watching any sort of update when it comes to the conflict in Iran? Can you give us any update on your investigation into those suspicious late time trades linked to the war?
我们可能会发布进一步的咨询,但我们专注于建设政策方面、规则制定,然后通过实际调查和对不良行为者采取行动来监管这些市场,就像你提到的那样迅速展开调查。我能问你一个与当前市场关注的相关新闻问题吗?关于伊朗冲突的任何最新情况?你能告诉我们关于那些与战争相关的可疑尾盘交易的调查进展吗?
I can't talk to any investigations. I appreciate the effort there, but no, I can't speak to that. All right. Let's think broadly about legal strategy. And the CFTC. We saw this federal judge the other week rule against you in Wisconsin when it comes to sport events, contracts, letting state regulators move forward in terms of classifying them as gambling. Can you just talk to me a little bit more about your strategy and how the agency plans to sustain this exclusive jurisdictional argument if you keep getting these mixed rulings from the lower courts?
我不能谈论任何调查。我感谢你的努力,但不,我不能对此发表意见。好的。让我们广泛思考法律策略和CFTC。我们上周看到一位联邦法官在威斯康星州就体育赛事合同对你作出不利裁决,允许州监管机构将其归类为赌博。你能多谈谈你的策略,以及如果下级法院继续给出这些混合裁决,该机构计划如何维持这一专属管辖权论点吗?
We haven't lost in a single federal appellate court. We don't intend to. If we do, that's going to create a split, and we'll see it at the Supreme Court. That's our focus. We want this to be clear, codified law on the books, and we'll take it all the way up to the Supreme Court. So if it goes to the Supreme Court, though, and the judge rules that sport contracts are gambling. How will that impact the CFTC and these companies that you regulate?
我们在联邦上诉法院中从未败诉过。我们不打算败诉。如果我们败诉了,那将造成分歧,我们会在最高法院看到结果。那是我们的重点。我们希望这成为明确的、成文的法律,并且我们会一直上诉到最高法院。所以,如果案件到了最高法院,而法官裁定体育合同属于赌博,那将对CFTC以及你们监管的这些公司产生什么影响?
To the extent the Supreme Court were to rule against us. Of course, will follow the law. All right. I wanted to ask you about the agency's June 2026 proposed rule, which does put some of these guardrails in place. Do you think that you'll be able to finalize this before the end of the year? And with everything that is going on in this market right now, what is most important to you in terms of an inflation and also consumer protections in terms of really getting it on the books?
如果最高法院裁定对我们不利,我们当然会遵守法律。好的。我想询问一下该机构2026年6月的拟议规则,该规则确实设置了一些这样的护栏。你认为你能在年底前完成这项规则吗?而且,考虑到当前市场的所有情况,在通胀和消费者保护方面,对你来说最重要的是什么,才能真正将其落实到法规中?
We're making fantastic progress in finalizing these rules. We received a lot of really substantive and helpful comments, both through the advance notice, proposed rulemaking and the newer rule 4011 rulemaking proposal, and we're hoping to finalize that very soon. We're also moving forward with we'
我们在完成这些规则方面取得了巨大进展。我们收到了许多实质性和有帮助的评论,无论是通过预先通知、拟议规则制定,还是更新的规则4011规则制定提案,我们希望很快完成。我们也在推进我们'
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