家族办公室持有SpaceX 38亿美元股份,巴菲特增持Alphabet
Family Offices Amass $3.8 Billion SpaceX Bet in Boost for Musk | Bloomberg Intelligence
13F季报揭示家族办公室与大学捐赠基金对SpaceX的持仓规模,以及巴菲特大幅增持Alphabet,对跟踪机构动向的投资者有参考价值,建议关注相关持仓变化。
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Listen on demand wherever you get your podcasts or watch us live on YouTube. It is 13F season and that's always a kind of a fun time in the marketplace because you get to see what some of your favorite investors what they're buying uh what they're selling here and that's certainly the case uh this time. Echin Shen joins us here. She's equities reporter for Bloomberg News who joins us live here in our Bloomberg interactive broker studio.
无论您在哪里收听播客,都可以点播,或者通过YouTube观看我们的直播。现在是13F申报季,这总是市场上一个有趣的时刻,因为你可以看到一些你最喜欢的投资者在买什么,卖什么,这次当然也不例外。Echin Shen加入我们。她是彭博新闻的股票记者,现在在彭博互动经纪人工作室与我们直播连线。
Echin um talk to us about some of these ultrawealthy individuals these family offices. What are they buying?
Echin,跟我们聊聊这些超级富豪个人和家族办公室。他们在买什么?
Sure. Yeah. So I would say for this 13th quarter lots of attention is going to SpaceX because we know SpaceX had this record setting IPO right in June and it's for the first time like the public got to see who are the sort of the earlier investor private investor um on its back and it turn from certain filings u more than a dozen family offices at least hold more than uh 3.8 billion investment through the first half of the year.
当然。是的。我想说,对于这个13F季度,很多注意力都集中在SpaceX上,因为我们知道SpaceX在6月份创纪录地进行了首次公开募股,这是第一次公众得以看到其背后的早期投资者和私人投资者,从某些文件中可以看出,至少有超过12个家族办公室在上半年持有超过38亿美元的投资。
So that includes a family office from Haya Hotels, Nick Priser who hold 1.8 billion investment and Michael Plat uh Blue Crush Capital and also this like super influential finance dynasty backed by Brazil's Mara Sales. um each of them hold over 100 million of stake and also remember some of these investors are also investors in Tesla and other uh Elon Musk listed business empire. So there are a lot of really exciting fastmoving stocks right now a lot of excitement around AI and things like that.
这包括来自海雅酒店的一个家族办公室,Nick Priser持有18亿美元的投资,还有Michael Plat的Blue Crush Capital,以及由巴西的Mara Sales支持的超级有影响力的金融王朝。他们每个人都持有超过1亿美元的股份,还要记住,其中一些投资者也是特斯拉和Elon Musk上市商业帝国的其他部分的投资者。所以现在有很多非常令人兴奋的快速变动的股票,围绕人工智能等有很多兴奋点。
What is it about SpaceX that has this group of investors so excited? Um I think so it's interesting that uh uh we don't know when exactly they invested. It could be before well before the public IPO or before the merge it had with XAI actually takes to another interesting highlight is that there are lots of college endowment funds also invested in SpaceX including Harvard uh management which is that endowment um uh for the college it have 2.2 2 billion and then also the California uh University of California investment arm.
SpaceX有什么让这群投资者如此兴奋?我想,有趣的是,我们不知道他们具体是什么时候投资的。可能是在公开IPO之前很久,或者在与xAI合并之前。另一个有趣的亮点是,很多大学捐赠基金也投资了SpaceX,包括哈佛管理公司,那是该大学的捐赠基金,它持有22亿美元,还有加利福尼亚大学投资部门。
So how it works is that usually these college endowment funds they invest through uh VC arms venture capital firms and through the VCs they were like could could be you know early investors in SpaceX or to way before it became this AI was like the rocket science stop right for many many years ago. So that sort of has just come a long ways through until we what we see in the public filings.
那么它的运作方式是,通常这些大学捐赠基金通过风险投资部门,也就是风投公司进行投资,通过风投,他们可能是SpaceX的早期投资者,或者远在它成为人工智能之前,这就像火箭科学一样,在很多很多年前就停止了。所以,从那时起,这一路走来,直到我们在公开文件中看到的情况,已经走了很长的路。
And our good friends up at Cambridge, Harvard, they had a a stake in SpaceX, right?
我们在剑桥的好朋友们,哈佛大学,他们持有SpaceX的股份,对吧?
Yeah. Right. As we just mentioned, they they have uh 2 uh 2.2 billion.
是的,没错。正如我们刚才提到的,他们有22亿美元。
Nice. Good for them. Um what are we seeing? Do we know when these people invested? You don't really know, right? Just that it was in the private round before they went public. That's all we really know, right?
不错,为他们感到高兴。嗯,我们看到了什么?我们知道这些人是什么时候投资的吗?你其实不知道,对吧?只知道那是在他们上市之前的私募轮。这就是我们真正知道的全部,对吧?
Yeah. especially for SpaceX, right? We only got to notice because now it became a public company, but yeah, we wouldn't know. And there's also a 45 days of lag between because uh the 13F is a snapshot of their Q2 portfolio. It could be possible that they try some of their position or change their portfolio, you know, throughout July because it was a pretty turbulent month for for tech and AI stocks. But yeah, that part is a question mark.
是的,特别是对于SpaceX,对吧?我们之所以注意到,是因为现在它成了一家上市公司,但确实,我们不会知道。而且还有45天的延迟,因为13F是他们第二季度投资组合的快照。有可能他们在7月份尝试调整了一些仓位或改变了投资组合,因为那对科技和AI股票来说是一个相当动荡的月份。但确实,那部分是个问号。
What are some of the other stocks that are I guess generating excitement right now? I think I I'm reading that Birkshire has taken another huge chunk of of Alphabet.
那么,现在还有哪些其他股票,我想说,正在引起兴奋呢?我想我读到伯克希尔又增持了一大块Alphabet。
Yeah, that's right. So, uh Burkshire Hassaway they added uh roughly another 8 billion in Alphabet.
是的,没错。所以,伯克希尔·哈撒韦他们又增加了大约80亿美元的Alphabet。
That's a lot.
那可真不少。
Yeah, that's a lot. That's [laughter] a lot of alphabet.
是的,那可真不少。那是[笑声]很多Alphabet。
And that's on top of the 10 billion private private placements they committed and disclosed before. And remember Alphabet was a position initially started uh by Warren Buffett uh 2025 a year ago. Now it is run under uh GRE but apparently the company is still pretty committed to this tech bat.
而且这还不包括他们之前承诺并披露的100亿美元私募配售。记住,Alphabet最初是由沃伦·巴菲特在2025年,也就是一年前开始持有的。现在它由格雷管理,但显然公司仍然非常致力于这项科技投资。
You know what I've noticed over the last I don't know several years I guess is that when you looking at these 13Fs is just more and more family offices are showing up here. I mean family offices they're becoming serious players out there in the investment world. what what what do you guys see from your reporting? Yeah, that that's a good observation and uh I would agree with that trend and um I would say yeah overall because CTF has the requirements is any investment funds I believe more than 100 million or 200 million AUMs that's the threshold you need to report.
你知道吗,我注意到在过去,我不知道,几年里,当你查看这些13F文件时,越来越多的家族办公室出现在这里。我的意思是,家族办公室正在成为投资界的重要参与者。你们从报道中看到了什么?是的,那是个很好的观察,我同意这个趋势,而且我想说,总的来说,因为CTF有要求,任何投资基金,我相信管理资产超过1亿或2亿美元的,那是你需要报告的门槛。
So that's why we're seeing um them in um uh in the quarterly filings. But otherwise, yeah, they've been very active. It just you don't they also being super under the radar for the most part with their investments.
所以这就是为什么我们在季度申报文件中看到它们。但除此之外,是的,他们一直非常活跃。只是你不太会注意到,他们在大部分投资中都非常低调。
I think that's changing though because they're getting so big these family offices that they are showing up in some of these public filings.
我认为这种情况正在改变,因为这些家族办公室变得如此庞大,以至于它们出现在一些公开申报文件中。
Oh, is this just like a more private wealth coming or why is there such a boom of of private office?
哦,这只是更多私人财富的涌现,还是为什么私人办公室会有这样的繁荣?
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Well, we know many things about AI. One of the things we know is it's really expensive and you need lots of capital to build this stuff out. It used to be when the tech companies needed capital, they just used their cash on the balance sheet or their free cash flow. Uh-uh. AI is so expensive, requires so much capital that these companies are going to the equity markets and the fixed income markets. And today, Alphabet is looking to raise 5 billion uh in a debt offering, a debut bond offering.
嗯,我们对AI了解很多。我们知道的一件事是它非常昂贵,需要大量资本来建设。过去,科技公司需要资本时,他们只用资产负债表上的现金或自由现金流。但现在不是了。AI如此昂贵,需要如此多的资本,以至于这些公司转向股票市场和固定收益市场。今天,Alphabet正寻求通过债务发行筹集50亿美元,这是其首次债券发行。
Where? Australia. Why not? Ed Lolo joins us here, Bloomberg tech host. Uh he's out there in San Francisco. Why do you think that I'm I love Australia. I've been there several times. Great place. [laughter] But why do you think Alphabet's going to Australia to raise 5 million Australian dollars?
在哪里?澳大利亚。为什么不呢?Ed Lolo加入了我们,他是彭博科技主持人。他在旧金山。你觉得为什么Alphabet要去澳大利亚筹集500万澳元?
You you gave a perfect summary of what's been happening since the middle of 2025. I mean, for one thing, Australia's bond market's quite big, right? Um, and so the the the capital's available from there, but Alphabet leads this this AI borrowing boom that we've seen. You know, since the middle of 2025, they they'd already done about $114 billion worth, but it was also split largely US denominated, but you know, Euro, Swiss Frank, etc.
你完美总结了自2025年中期以来发生的情况。首先,澳大利亚的债券市场相当大,对吧?所以那里有可用的资本,但Alphabet引领了我们所见的这波AI借贷热潮。自2025年中期以来,他们已经完成了约1140亿美元的借贷,但主要也是以美元计价,但也有欧元、瑞士法郎等。
Um, so this $3.6 6 billion uh kangaroo bond action is kind of diversifying that funding. But you're exactly right like even a giant like Alphabet cannot fund capex from its own cash flows. Um and so it needs to go to the capital markets to do that across equity and debt. But the debt investor seems very willing you know to support that that offering.
所以这笔36.6亿美元的袋鼠债券行动是在分散融资来源。但你说得完全正确,即使是像Alphabet这样的巨头也无法仅靠自身现金流来为资本支出提供资金。因此,它需要进入资本市场,通过股权和债务来实现。但债务投资者似乎非常愿意支持这一发行。
What is this money for exactly? Is this data centers? Is this other things? Why do they need such huge amounts of money? So it it is for data centers and it it is in financial terms for capital expenditures, right? So if you look at Alphabet's capex for 26, it's approaching $200 billion and the expectation is that it will be much bigger in 2027 and bigger still in 2028. Something that's really interesting is that capex doesn't just go up because you got to build more stuff, right?
这笔钱究竟用于什么?是数据中心吗?还是其他方面?为什么他们需要如此巨额的资金?所以,这是用于数据中心的,从财务角度讲,属于资本支出,对吧?如果你看Alphabet 2026年的资本支出,接近2000亿美元,预计2027年会更大,2028年还会更大。有趣的是,资本支出并非仅仅因为要建设更多设施而增加,对吧?
It doesn't just go up because you're saying, "Okay, well I did 10 data centers, now I need to do 20." It's also the cost environment. So like labor, construction, materials, power that is also seeing some inflationary effects and so the capex numbers also need to rise to meet that environment. And what are the companies saying about longerterm capex as it relates to AI? I guess I'm concerned that this extraordin
它不会仅仅因为你说“好吧,我建了10个数据中心,现在需要建20个”而增加。还涉及成本环境。比如劳动力、建筑、材料、电力,这些也受到一些通胀影响,因此资本支出数字也需要上升以适应这种环境。关于与AI相关的长期资本支出,公司们是怎么说的?我想我担心的是,这种超常
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