美媒称将派新航母赴中东接替林肯号
New Carrier To Replace USS Lincoln in Middle East | Balance of Power 08/13/2026
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这里是“权力平衡”节目,从华盛顿现场直播。
TONIGHT, STILL AT A STANDSTILL, TRAFFIC THROUGH THE STRAIT OF HORMUZ REMAINS AT A TRICKLE WITH IRAN TALKS DEADLOCKED AND THE U.S. REPORTEDLY SENDING A NEW PRAYER FOR -- AIRCRAFT CARRIER TO THE MIDDLE EAST. WE WILL DISCUSS THIS HOUR. PLUS, PAY THE PRICE, U.S. GOVERNMENT SELLS 30 YEAR BONDS AT THE HIGHEST YIELD SINCE 2001 HIGHLIGHTING THE RISING COST OF FINANCING AMERICA'S DEBT AS LONG-TERM RATES REMAIN ABOVE 5%. IRA JERSEY JOINS US SHORTLY.
今晚,仍处于僵局,霍尔木兹海峡的交通依然稀少,伊朗谈判陷入僵局,据报道美国正向中东派遣新的航母——我们将在本时段讨论。此外,付出代价:美国政府以2001年以来最高收益率出售30年期国债,凸显了美国债务融资成本上升,长期利率仍高于5%。艾拉·泽西稍后将加入我们。
ALL EYES ON NOVEMBER, THE FIGHT FOR THE HOUSE RUNS THROUGH NEW YORK, WHERE ONE OF THE COUNTRY'S MOST COMPETITIVE CONGRESSIONAL RACES IS TAKING SHAPE. WE WILL SPEAK WITH DEMOCRAT KATE CONLEY CHALLENGING REPUBLICAN REPRESENTATIVE MIKE WALLER IN NEW YORK'S SEVENTH TEEN -- 17TH CONSECUTIVE -- CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT. I'M KAILEY LEINZ ALONGSIDE JOE MATHIEU AND WORLD HEADQUARTERS IN NEW YORK. JOE: WE KICK OFF OUR COVERAGE WITH THE CONFLICT BETWEEN THE U.S.
所有人关注十一月,众议院之争在纽约展开,那里正在形成全国最具竞争力的国会竞选之一。我们将与民主党人凯特·康利对话,她在纽约第17国会选区挑战共和党众议员迈克·沃勒。我是凯莉·莱因兹,与乔·马修一起在纽约世界总部。乔:我们首先报道美国与伊朗之间的冲突。
AND IRAN. DEFENSE SECRETARY PETE HEGSETH SAID THE U.S. HAS THE NAVAL CAPACITY TO CONTINUE ITS BLOCKADE IN THE STRAIT OF HORMUZ "INDEFINITELY" EVEN AS HE BATS DOWN REPORTS OF DETERIORATING CONDITIONS ON THE USS ABRAHAM LINCOLN. WE WILL GET TO THAT AND A LOT MORE WITH THE FORMER DEFENSE SECRETARY MARK ESPER. WE BEGIN WITH COURTNEY ON THE NORTH LAWN OF THE WHITE HOUSE RIGHT NOW. IS THIS AN ADMINISTRATION GIRDING FOR A LONGER WAR?
国防部长皮特·赫格塞斯表示,美国有海军能力“无限期”维持对霍尔木兹海峡的封锁,尽管他驳斥了关于亚伯拉罕·林肯号航母状况恶化的报道。我们将与前国防部长马克·埃斯珀讨论这个问题及更多内容。我们首先从白宫北草坪的考特尼开始。这是政府在为长期战争做准备吗?
IT IS A GOOD QUESTION. JD VANCE, THE VICE PRESIDENT, WAS JUST ON FOX NEWS NEWS ASKED ABOUT THIS. SPEAKING TO AMERICANS WHO ARE INCREASINGLY FRUSTRATED WITH WHERE THIS WAR IS GOING, WHAT DIRECTION, HE SAID THEY HAVE A LOT OF TOOLS AT THEIR DISPOSAL, BUT THE CENTRAL GOAL IS REALLY TO KEEP OIL AND GAS PRICES DOWN FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. WHETHER THAT IS THROUGH A BROADER EFFORT TO REOPEN THE STRAIT OF HORMUZ OR SOME SORT OF OPERATION TO FORCIBLY OPEN IT, NOT SO CLEAR, BUT IT IS CLEAR THAT THIS ADMINISTRATION IS LASER FOCUSED ON TRYING TO REOPEN THE STRAIT, LOOSEN IRAN'S GRIP ON THE STRAIT, AND DO SO IN AN URGENT MANNER AS SOME OF THE GLOBAL OIL STOCKPILES CONTINUE TO DWINDLE.
这是个好问题。副总统JD·万斯刚刚在福克斯新闻上被问及此事。他向越来越沮丧的美国人谈到战争的走向和方向,他说他们手头有很多工具,但核心目标确实是为美国人民保持石油和天然气价格低廉。无论是通过更广泛的努力重新开放霍尔木兹海峡,还是某种强制开放的行动,尚不清楚,但很明显,本届政府正专注于试图重新开放海峡,放松伊朗对海峡的控制,并以紧迫的方式这样做,因为一些全球石油储备继续减少。
KAILEY: AND TRY ITS BEST TO MESSAGE AROUND THIS ENTIRE CONFLICT AND STALEMATE. WHEN WE THING ABOUT WHO THE DRIVER AND DISSEMINATE HER OF THOSE MESSAGES WILL BE GOING FORWARD WE GOT THE NEWS THIS TIME YESTERDAY THAT THE PRESS SECRETARY KAROLINE LEAVITT WILL BE DID -- DEPARTING AT THE END OF THIS MONTH. HAVE YOU HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT WHO MIGHT REPLACE HER? COURTNEY: THE WHITE HOUSE IS BEING VERY TIGHTLIPPED ON WHO HER REPLACEMENT MIGHT BE BUT A LOT OF NAMES ARE OBVIOUSLY BEING THROWN AROUND HERE AT THE WHITE HOUSE AMONG THE PRESS CORPS.
凯莉:并且尽力围绕整个冲突和僵局传递信息。当我们思考未来谁将成为这些信息的驱动者和传播者时,我们昨天这个时候得到消息,新闻秘书卡罗琳·莱维特将在本月底离职。你听到任何关于谁可能接替她的消息了吗?考特尼:白宫对谁可能接替她守口如瓶,但在白宫记者团中显然有很多名字被提及。
IT IS CLEAR THAT WHOEVER THIS PERSON IS GOING TO BE, THEY NEED TO ECHO SOME OF THE SAME QUALITIES THAT KAROLINE LEAVITT HAS. THE PRESIDENT IS LOSING HER AS ONE OF HIS MOST EFFECTIVE MESSENGERS WITH JUST LESS THAN THREE MONTHS BEFORE THE MIDTERMS. SHE IS SOMEBODY ABLE TO ARTICULATE HIS MESSAGE AND THIS IS IMPORTANT ESPECIALLY AS THE WHITE HOUSE IS FACING SOME HEADWINDS AROUND THE AFFORDABILITY AGENDA, WHICH IS IMPORTANT FOR VOTERS HEADING INTO NOVEMBER, AS WELL AS THIS WAR WHICH CONTINUES TO REMAIN UNPOPULAR.
很明显,无论这个人是谁,他们都需要具备卡罗琳·莱维特的一些相同特质。总统正在失去她这位最有效的信使之一,而距离中期选举不到三个月。她能够清晰表达总统的信息,这一点很重要,尤其是白宫在可负担性议程方面面临一些阻力,这对11月前的选民很重要,以及这场仍然不受欢迎的战争。
SO WHOEVER THIS PERSON IS GOING TO BE, THEY NEED TO BE SOMEONE WHO CAN GO ON TV, DEFEND THE PRESIDENT'S POLICIES, AND TAKE THAT COMBATIVE APPROACH THAT WE KNOW THE PRESIDENT LIKES TO SEE IN HIS SURROGATES, BUT ALSO HANDLE SOME OF THE TRICKIER PARTS OF THE JOB WHICH ARE ENGAGING REPORTERS AND ALSO HAVING A MANDATE AND TAKING CONTROL OF THE BRIEFING ROOM, WHICH CAN BE A BIT HARDER. KAILEY: CHALLENGING INDEED. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
所以无论这个人是谁,他们需要能够上电视,捍卫总统的政策,并采取我们知道总统喜欢在他的代理人身上看到的那种好斗态度,但同时也要处理工作中一些更棘手的部分,比如与记者互动,以及拥有授权并控制简报室,这可能更难一些。凯莉:确实具有挑战性。非常感谢。
JOINING US NOW FOR MORE ON OF THE CONFLICT WITH IRAN IS MARK ESPER, THE FORMER U.S. SECRETARY OF DEFENSE DURING PRESIDENT TRUMP'S FIRST TERM, NOW A PARTNER AT RED CELL VENTURES. HE IS ALSO THE AUTHOR OF A BOOK, "A SACRED OATH." IF WE COULD BEGIN WITH REPORTS THAT THE U.S. IS SENDING THE USS GEORGE WASHINGTON TO THE MIDDLE EAST TO RELIEVE THE CREW, THE SAILORS AND AVIATORS ON BOARD THE LINCOLN WHO HAVE BEEN DEPLOYED SINCE NOVEMBER, DO YOU SEE THAT AS A SIGN THE U.S.
现在加入我们,进一步讨论与伊朗的冲突,他是马克·埃斯珀,特朗普总统第一任期内的前美国国防部长,现在是红细胞创投的合伙人。他还是一本书的作者,《神圣誓言》。如果我们能从报道开始,美国正在派遣乔治·华盛顿号航母前往中东,以接替林肯号上的船员、水手和飞行员,他们自11月以来一直在部署,你认为这是否表明美国……
IS PLANNING ON BEING IN THEATER AND MAINTAINING THIS BLOCKADE FOR AN INDEFINITE PERIOD OF TIME? MARK: GOOD TO BE WITH YOU AND JOE TODAY. LOOK, YES I THINK WE ARE GOING TO BE IN THE REGION FOR AN EXTENDED TIME TO MAINTAIN THE BLOCKADE. I'VE ARGUED SOME TIME WE SHOULD PIVOT FROM AERIAL ASSAULTS INTO AN ECONOMIC BLOCKADE OF THEIR AIR, GROUND, AND SEA ROUTES AND SANCTIONS AND A NUMBER OF THINGS WITHOUT GLOBAL PARTNERS, BUT THIS ACTION COMES IN TERMS OF RELIEVING THE AIRCRAFT CARRIER IS IMPORTANT.
计划在该地区驻扎并无限期维持这一封锁?马克:今天很高兴和你和乔在一起。听着,是的,我认为我们将在该地区停留更长时间以维持封锁。我曾在一段时间前主张,我们应该从空袭转向对其空中、地面和海上路线进行经济封锁,以及制裁和其他一些措施,没有全球伙伴,但这一行动在航母轮换方面很重要。
THEY ALSO HAVE TO ROTATE DESTROYERS BECAUSE WE HAVE ABOUT 15 DESTROYERS. THE CHALLENGE FOR THE NAVY IS TO CONTINUALLY ROTATE THE SHIPS AND MAINTAIN A HIGH DEGREE OF READINESS. THE TWO BIGGEST CHALLENGES FROM A MILITARY PERSPECTIVE ARE THE MUNITIONS QUESTION AND THIS QUESTION WITH REGARD TO THE READINESS OF THE FORCES. JOE: WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THE REPORTS FROM THE USS LINCOLN, SECRETARY? THESE ARE VERY TROUBLING REPORTS WHEN YOU ARE HEARING ABOUT ATTEMPTED SUICIDES, BEYOND JUST MORALE PROBLEMS, MALFUNCTIONING BATHROOMS, NO HOT WATER.
他们还必须轮换驱逐舰,因为我们大约有15艘驱逐舰。海军面临的挑战是不断轮换舰船并保持高度的战备状态。从军事角度看,最大的两个挑战是弹药问题和部队战备状态问题。乔:部长先生,您如何看待来自林肯号航母的报道?这些报道非常令人不安,当你听到有人试图自杀,不仅仅是士气问题,还有厕所故障、没有热水。
WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THIS A BIT LATER WITH SENATOR JACK REED. YOU HAVE A JOB. IS THIS ON PETE HEGSETH? MARK: FIRST OF ALL, THE REPORTS ARE VERY TROUBLING, I'VE BEEN WATCHING THEM FOR SEVERAL DAYS. THEY HAVE BEEN IN THE MILITARY PRESS AND IT BEGAN IN TOWN HALLS IN SAN DIEGO OR FAMILY MEMBERS WERE COMPLAINING ABOUT WHAT WAS HAPPENING. THEY WERE GETTING REPORTS FROM SPOUSES ABOARD SHIP. IT IS VERY SERIOUS. A LONG DEPLOYMENT CAN WEAR YOU DOWN, I WAS ON ACTIVE DUTY.
我们稍后将与参议员杰克·里德讨论这个问题。你有工作。这是关于皮特·赫格塞斯的吗?马克:首先,这些报道非常令人不安,我已经关注了好几天。这些报道出现在军事媒体上,始于圣地亚哥的市政厅会议,或者有家属抱怨所发生的事情。他们从船上的配偶那里得到消息。这非常严重。长期部署会让人疲惫不堪,我曾是现役军人。
YOU HAVE TO MONITOR VERY CAREFULLY THE HEALTH OF THE FORCE. WHO IS RESPONSIBLE? IT BEGINS AT THE SHIP LEVEL MONITORING THE SHIP, THE CAPTAIN AND THE NONCOMMISSIONED OFFICERS. IT WORKS ITS WAY BACK UP THE NAVAL LOGISTICS CHAIN. YOU CAN'T CHANGE THE LENGTH OF DEPLOYMENT, THAT'S ON THE SECRETARY OF DEFENSE, WHAT SHOULD NOT HAPPEN IS LACK OF FRESH FRUIT, MALE BEING DISRUPTED AND NOT ARRIVING, ALL THE THINGS THAT AFFECT THE MORALE OF THE SERVICE MEMBERS.
你必须非常仔细地监控部队的健康状况。谁负责?从舰船层面开始,监控舰船、舰长和士官。然后沿着海军后勤链向上传递。你不能改变部署时长,那是国防部长的职责。不应该发生的是缺乏新鲜水果、邮件中断和无法送达,以及所有影响军人士气的事情。
IF I WERE IN THE JOB I WOULD BE CALLING UP THE CHIEF OF NAVAL OPERATIONS TO REPORT TO ME AND EXPLAINED TO ME HOW ALL THIS HAPPENED. IS IT TRUE FIRST OF ALL THAT THE SHIP WASN'T WELL SUPPLIED, THAT THE SAILORS MARKED GETTING WHAT THEY NEED? I THINK THAT NEEDS LOOKED INTO BECAUSE IT HAS NOW BECOME, GOTTEN INTO THE NATIONAL SPOTLIGHT. KAILEY: WHAT ELSE WOULD YOU BE DOING RIGHT NOW IF YOU WERE STILL IN THAT JOB, MR. SECRETARY?
如果我担任这个职位,我会召集海军作战部长向我汇报,并向我解释这一切是如何发生的。首先,这艘船是否真的补给不足,水手们是否得到了他们需要的东西?我认为这需要调查,因为这件事现在已经引起了全国关注。凯莉:部长先生,如果您还在那个职位上,您现在还会做些什么?
THERE HAS BEEN REPORTING IN POLITICO THAT WHILE MAKING MULTIPLE TRIPS TO CAPITOL HILL IN RECENT WEEKS TO PITCH THE SUPPLEMENTAL FUNDING AND 1.5 TRILLION DOLLARS DEFENSE BUDGET POINTEDLY LEFT DEMOCRATS OUT OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS. IS THIS A WISE COURSE OF ACTION HE IS PURSUING? MARK: CONGRESS HAS THE POWER OF THE PURSE AND IF YOU WANT TO GET THEIR SUPPORT, YOU HAVE TO TAKE THE TIME, THE EFFORT TO GO UP THERE AND SPEAK TO MEMBERS OF BOTH PARTIES.
据Politico报道,他在最近几周多次前往国会山推销补充资金和1.5万亿美元的国防预算,但明显将民主党人排除在这些对话之外。他正在采取的行动方针是否明智?马克:国会掌握着财政大权,如果你想获得他们的支持,你必须花时间和精力去那里与两党成员交谈。
AND SPEND A LOT OF TIME EXPLAINING TO THEM WHAT YOUR BUDGET IS, WHY YOU NEED IT, WHAT IT MEANS, GETTING THEM ON BOARD AND IT IS NOT SOMETHING YOU CAN DO ONE AND DONE. IT IS CONTINUOUS, IT IS A PROCESS THAT BEGINS ACTUALLY BEFORE YOU GET SWORN IN, BEFORE YOU APPEAR BEFORE THE NOMINATING COMMITTEE TO MAKE THE CASE AS TO WHY YOU SHOULD BE IN THAT POSITION. IT IS ABOUT BUILDING RELATIONSHIPS THAT I KNOW YOU HAVE JACK REED ON THEIR, HE HAS SEEN A LOT OF SECRETARIES COME THROUGH, HE CAN TALK ABOUT THIS IN GREAT DETAIL.
并且花大量时间向他们解释你的预算是多少,为什么你需要它,它意味着什么,让他们支持你,这不是你一次就能完成的事情。它是持续的,是一个过程,实际上在你宣誓就职之前,在你出现在提名委员会面前陈述你为什么应该担任那个职位之前就开始了。这是关于建立关系,我知道你那边有杰克·里德,他见过很多任部长,他可以非常详细地谈论这一点。
YOU HAVE TO BUILD THAT REPORT. THE BIGGEST THING IS GETTING ADDITIONAL MONEY TO THE PENTAGON TO DO THINGS SUCH AS MAKE INVESTMENTS IN THE DEFENSE INDUSTRIAL BASE SO WE CAN TRIPLE, QUADRUPLE OUR STOCKPILES. IN THREE OR FOUR YEARS IT WILL PAY OFF AND THAT IS WHERE WE ARE REALLY BEHIND THESE DAYS. AT THE END OF THE DAY COME ALONG WARS ARE RUN BY ECONOMIES, THEY ARE NOT NECESSARILY WON ONLY BY THE MILITARY, IT IS THE INDUSTRIAL BASE THAT BRINGS TO BEAR THE GREAT MIND OF A NATION.
你必须建立那种关系。最重要的事情是让五角大楼获得额外的资金,用于投资国防工业基础,这样我们就能将库存增加三倍、四倍。在三四年内,这将得到回报,而这就是我们如今真正落后的地方。归根结底,战争是由经济支撑的,它们不一定只靠军事赢得,而是由工业基础带来的国家伟大智慧所决定。
WE ARE SEEING THAT EXPOSED SINCE WE HAVE BEEN EXPENDING MUNITIONS THROUGH THE AND OTHER TRUMP ADMINISTRATION. JOE: DULY
自从我们在特朗普政府期间及其他时期消耗弹药以来,我们已经看到了这一点被暴露出来。乔:正式地。
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