用三个词提示词管理34个AI代理:从管理到等待升级
I Run 34 AI Agents with a 3-Word Prompt
There are people that are spitting up agent workforces with hundreds of agents and sub agents and they're getting incredible amounts of work [music] done. But how do you do it? And how should you think about it? And what are the strategies to actually create an AI agent workforce [music] that underpromises and overdelivers? Well, today I brought on Alli K. Miller and she's one of one of the most well-known AI voices ever.
有些人正在用数百个代理和子代理组建AI代理劳动力,他们完成了大量工作[音乐]。但你是怎么做到的?你应该怎么思考这件事?有哪些策略能真正创建一个AI代理劳动力[音乐],做到少承诺、多交付?今天,我请来了Alli K. Miller,她是有史以来最知名的AI声音之一。
She's worked with IBM. She's worked with AWS. And she's managed multi-billion dollar P&Ls in the AI space. I asked her a simple question. How do you manage your fleet of agents? In this episode, we cover a lot of ground, but by the end of it, you're going to understand how should you strategically think about spinning up AI agent workforces, where there's opportunities to create startups in the B2B space with AI agents, and a [music] lot more.
她曾在IBM工作,也曾在AWS工作,并管理过AI领域数十亿美元的P&L。我问了她一个简单的问题:你如何管理你的代理团队?在本期节目中,我们涵盖了很多内容,但到最后,你会理解应该如何战略性地思考组建AI代理劳动力,在B2B领域用AI代理创造初创公司有哪些机会,以及[音乐]更多内容。
Enjoy the episode and I'll see you at the end. Today's episode is brought to you by Brex. My company's been on Brex for a year and a half and I started because I kept hearing companies like Verscell, OpenAI, Anthropic were using Brex and I figured if they're using it, why shouldn't I? It's been a gamecher. The thing that got me is how smooth it is. It's got high limit cards. It's got banking. It's got AI that handles the back office busy work like expense reports which I don't want to do on its own.
享受本期节目,我们结尾见。今天的节目由Brex赞助。我的公司使用Brex已经一年半了,我开始使用是因为我不断听说像Verscell、OpenAI、Anthropic这样的公司都在用Brex,我想如果他们在用,我为什么不用呢?这改变了游戏规则。最吸引我的是它的流畅性。它有高额度卡,有银行业务,还有AI处理后台琐事,比如费用报告,这些我不想自己做。
It's really just built for this agentic world. If you're building something new, it's time to get Brex. Check it out at brex.com/solutions/ startups. Link in the description. [music]
它真的是为这个代理驱动的世界而构建的。如果你在创造新事物,是时候使用Brex了。请访问brex.com/solutions/startups查看。链接在描述中。[音乐]
I can't tell you how excited I am to finally have Alli Miller on the podcast. I've been begging her to come on. She's one of my favorite people in AI and I don't say that lightly. Um, welcome to the show, Ally.
我无法告诉你我有多兴奋,终于请到了Alli Miller上播客。我一直求她来。她是我在AI领域最喜欢的人之一,我这么说不是轻率的。嗯,欢迎来到节目,Ally。
Thank you, Greg. And you are also one of my favorite people. So, like I'm actually very excited to to talk about all the AI things that we're working on.
谢谢你,Greg。你也是我最喜欢的人之一。所以,我真的很兴奋能谈谈我们正在做的所有AI相关的事情。
By the end of the episode, what are people going to learn?
到节目结束时,人们会学到什么?
I hope like one of the biggest mindset shifts that I'm going through right now is I feel like the term managing agents is wrong. And my hope is that people will understand what that mindset shift is, see a few examples, and figure out how to start, how to make that mindset shift, what the first step should be.
我希望,我目前正在经历的最大的思维转变之一是,我觉得“管理代理”这个说法是错误的。我希望人们能理解这种思维转变是什么,看到一些例子,并弄清楚如何开始,如何实现这种思维转变,第一步应该是什么。
Okay, perfect. So, where do you want to start? So, this is and and I'm happy to to debate you on this because we haven't chatted about this, but I feel like managing agents feels like I am their direct manager and I'm like, Susie, go over there and Betty, go over there and Jeremy, go over here and I feel like I am three rungs above at like an SVP overseeing level where I feel like I am setting up the infrastructure and then they are figuring out the best way to execute within that.
好的,完美。那么,你想从哪里开始?所以,这是……我很乐意和你辩论这个,因为我们还没聊过这个,但我觉得管理智能体就像我是他们的直接经理,我会说,苏西,你去那边,贝蒂,你去那边,杰里米,你到这边来,我感觉我像是高出三级,像一个高级副总裁在监督,我觉得我在搭建基础设施,然后他们在这个框架内找出最佳执行方式。
Um, and so I feel like I'm moving from managing to like waiting for escalations. Um, or I feel like I'm moving away from delegating and more just deciding what should or shouldn't happen. And so it's a little bit more of the like a like a liability role where I just get to be the the final say of what happens um, and come in for like critical thinking steps. But does it like am I the only one that feels like that is happening?
嗯,所以我觉得我从管理转向了等待升级处理。嗯,或者我觉得我从委派任务转向了更多只是决定什么该发生或不该发生。所以这更像是一个责任角色,我只是对发生的事情有最终决定权,嗯,并在关键思考步骤时介入。但是,我是唯一一个有这种感觉的人吗?
I just it feels like that word is wrong. Like I see managing agents everywhere and it just feels like anyone that is still talking about you should manage agents feels like early 2026 talk.
我只是觉得那个词不对。我到处看到“管理智能体”,感觉任何还在谈论你应该管理智能体的人,听起来都像是2026年初的说法。
Also like do do we want to manage agents is also the question. Like managing people's hard you know what I mean? Like a big reason I think a lot of people like AI to do stuff for us is so we don't have to manage things, you know. So that's something else I've been thinking about.
还有,我们是否想要管理智能体也是个问题。管理别人很难,你懂我的意思吗?我觉得很多人喜欢让AI为我们做事的一个很大原因,就是我们不必去管理事情,你知道的。所以这是我一直在思考的另一件事。
Like I I ran an org of about 100 people at AWS. the parts of people management that I loved. It was the the making them better and empowering the out of them and seeing them completely blow past their ceiling, watching them get promotions, like that was the fun part. And also seeing what we could do together. Things like, oh, we have to fill out this thing with the paper and the button and like get me out of there.
比如,我在AWS管理过一个大约100人的组织。人事管理中我喜欢的部分,是让他们变得更好,赋予他们力量,看到他们完全突破自己的上限,看着他们获得晋升,那是有趣的部分。还有看到我们能一起做什么。比如,哦,我们必须用纸和按钮填写这个东西,让我离开那里。
So, I think the admin side of people management and the admin side of agent management, I want that fully gone. The things that I that I love about people, I'm bringing that over into agents, which is just like, how do I act as as ambitiously as possible and get you to break through your ceiling? And one of the best prompts that I have done with my AI workforce is three words [laughter] and with like a little bit of explanation, but like at its core, it is three words.
所以,我认为人事管理的行政方面和智能体管理的行政方面,我希望完全消失。我喜欢人的那些方面,我会把它们带到智能体上,那就是,我如何尽可能雄心勃勃地行动,让你突破你的上限?而我和我的AI劳动力做过的最好的提示词之一,是三个词[笑声],加上一点解释,但核心就是三个词。
That is the best prompt ever. So I have uh my AI chief of staff is Simon. Simon runs like this whole org. And so I have 34 AI agents that work in this workforce. And it dawned on me that I was already functioning at the limit of my own imagination in my business and that I could be doing way more ambitious things if only someone could manage me, right? Like could break help me break through my ceiling. And obviously I have a lot of mentors and you're amazing at at you know shaking people up and and making me second guess how I'm doing things.
那是有史以来最好的提示词。所以,嗯,我的AI幕僚长是西蒙。西蒙管理着整个组织。所以我有34个AI代理在这个劳动力队伍中工作。我突然意识到,在我的业务中,我已经在我自己想象力的极限上运作了,如果有人能管理我,我本可以去做更有雄心的事情,对吧?就像能帮我突破我的天花板。显然,我有很多导师,而你在激励人们、让我重新思考我的做事方式方面非常出色。
It's really helpful. But I it dawned on me. I was like, why am I not leaning on the AI agents to help me with this? Like why is everything that they're working on initially prompted by me? Even if it's um a scheduled task, I still had to come up with that task and tell it to do it. So the best prompt, three words, and it's just do smart things. Like my AI workforce has access to every single contact doc. I've got context talks about my business, my friends, family, my 2026 personal goals, business goals.
这真的很有帮助。但我突然想到,我为什么没有依靠AI代理来帮我做这件事呢?为什么他们最初做的所有事情都是由我提示的?即使是一项预定的任务,我也必须想出那个任务并告诉它去做。所以最好的提示词,三个字,就是“做聪明的事”。比如,我的AI劳动力可以访问每一个联系人文档。我有关于我的业务、朋友、家人、2026年个人目标、商业目标的背景谈话。
It has access to my meeting transcripts, email, calendar, notion, stripe, superbase, GitHub, whatever. And I just several times a day wanted to look across all those things and just do smart things. And seeing how Fable 5 and GBT 5.6 six and that level model is reacting to that vague um flavor of prompt like you couldn't you couldn't do this a year ago now you absolutely can
它可以访问我的会议记录、电子邮件、日历、Notion、Stripe、Supabase、GitHub等等。而我每天只是几次想查看所有这些事情,然后做聪明的事。看到Fable 5和GBT 5.6六以及那个级别的模型对那种模糊的提示词的反应,就像你一年前做不到这个,现在你绝对可以。
so when you hire a human being I think there's like three types of employees that you can have one is uh someone who doesn't complete tasks not a good employee if they're not completing tasks um the second is they're completing the tasks um like satisfactory or exceeding, but like they're not really like thinking about new tasks. Um, so they're not you can't just like if you step away from the business, you're probably not going to see insane growth.
所以当你雇佣一个人的时候,我认为你可以有三种类型的员工:一种是那种不完成任务的人,如果他们不完成任务,就不是一个好员工;第二种是他们完成了任务,嗯,令人满意或超出预期,但他们并没有真正考虑新任务。所以,如果你离开业务,你可能不会看到疯狂的增长。
Um, and then the best employee that you can possibly hire is doing the task, exceeding expectations on it, but also thinking about new tasks that they should be doing and actually going and doing those and exceeding expectations or or you know, or being very satisfactory on that. So what you're saying is basically you're just giving more responsibility to your team of agents. Um you're giving in a way cuz you're giving these three words to it and you're saying like hey I'm shifting the responsibility of like
嗯,然后你能雇佣的最好的员工是既完成任务、超出预期,同时也思考他们应该做的新任务,并且实际去做那些任务并超出预期,或者,你知道,或者在那方面非常令人满意。所以你说的是基本上你只是给你的代理团队更多的责任。嗯,你在某种程度上是,因为你给了它这三个词,然后你说,嘿,我把责任转移到了……
you know do smart things to you like you have to you you have to like there's a bunch of fog that you have to figure out.
你知道,对你做一些聪明的事情,比如你必须,你必须,比如有一堆迷雾你必须去搞清楚。
Yes. I would say I'm giving them more breadth more scope more flexibility. I'm not allowing them to now send 100 emails and before I used to have to check all the emails. I still check all the emails. So the the tier of risk has stayed the same but the width has expanded.
是的。我会说,我给了他们更多的广度、更多的范围、更多的灵活性。我现在不让他们发100封邮件,而以前我不得不检查所有的邮件。我仍然检查所有的邮件。所以风险等级保持不变,但宽度扩大了。
It's it's almost like unbelievable that those three words actually make a difference.
几乎令人难以置信,那三个字真的会带来不同。
Yes. This is like I a and by the way so so I I agree with your assessment on this like tiers of employees and Alex Lieberman shared this like pyramid of proactivity that I turned into I'll I'll send this to you so that you can pull it up right now as I'm talking about it
是的。这就像我,顺便说一句,所以我同意你对这个的评估,比如员工层级,Alex Lieberman分享了这个主动性的金字塔,我把它变成了,我会把这个发给你,这样你现在就可以在我谈论它的时候把它调出来。
but it is five levels of proactivity and at level four it's like I've already solved this thing here are the you know tradeoffs or whatever and at level five it's like I've already solved this thing. Here's how I
但它有五个层次的主动性,在第四层,就像我已经解决了这个问题,这里是你知道的权衡或其他什么,在第五层,就像我已经解决了这个问题。这是我的做法。
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