特朗普宣扬30亿美元矿产项目以对抗中国
Trump Touts $3B in Mineral Project to Counter China
I just wanna hear your main takeaway from that meeting with the president on Friday. What were your main takeaways? Well, I think more than anything else, we have an administration that very much recognizes the dire need of critical minerals for our country, for our industries in this country, and obviously our military. So, the support that, this administration has provided to the mining industry has been immense. And the the real event on Friday at the state department was a $100,000,000 grant that the federal government is giving to universities and schools in order to train new engineers and geologists and the technical people that we need in this industry because we are all are getting older.
我只想听听你周五与总统会面的主要收获。你的主要收获是什么?嗯,我认为最重要的是,我们有一个非常认识到关键矿产对我国、对我国工业以及显然对我们的军队的迫切需求的政府。因此,本届政府对采矿业的支持是巨大的。周五在国务院的真正活动是联邦政府向大学和学校提供的1亿美元赠款,用于培训我们行业所需的新工程师、地质学家和技术人员,因为我们都在变老。
A lot of people are retiring, and this industry has been, you know, in the doldrums for the better part of thirty years. And so having that kind of financial commitment to the schools, and then there were a lot of administrators there. For me, the big takeaway was some incredible contacts that we made, at this forum. There were a lot of very influential people involved in the critical mental space, both from a banking finance area, as well as, some of the administrators like secretary of interior was there, secretary of state was there, and we were able to have one on one meetings with them about issues we might have.
很多人正在退休,这个行业在过去的三十年里一直处于低迷状态。因此,有这样的财政承诺给学校,而且那里有很多行政人员。对我来说,最大的收获是我们在这次论坛上建立了一些难以置信的联系。有很多在关键矿产领域非常有影响力的人,既来自银行金融领域,也有一些行政人员,比如内政部长在场,国务卿也在场,我们能够与他们进行一对一的会议,讨论我们可能遇到的问题。
And so I think what I got when I came away from that conference realizing that if I need help, there's people I can call to get help. And that's very, very important, something we've never had. Who so take us into specific conversations that you had. Like, who who did you speak to from the administration, and what did you tell them that you needed? Well, I'll be specifically frank. The new or the secretary of interior, Doug Burden, he and his assistant were there, and he stayed after the forum was over and was talking to people.
所以我认为,当我离开那次会议时,我意识到如果我需要帮助,我可以打电话找人帮忙。这非常非常重要,这是我们从未有过的。那么,带我们了解一下你进行的具体对话。比如,你与政府的谁交谈了,你告诉他们你需要什么?嗯,我会非常坦率地说。新任内政部长道格·伯登和他的助理都在场,他在论坛结束后留下来与人交谈。
And, I went to him. We have an issue in Alaska, specifically related to the BLM, which is under his venue, and the Department of Transportation, which is not, but he has influence on. And it has to do with a a new property we bought in Alaska in January, and we're just getting pushback and, you know, slowness from local officials not understanding that that antimony that we're trying to bring out of this mine is needed by the federal government.
然后,我走向他。我们在阿拉斯加有一个问题,特别与BLM有关,这在他的管辖范围内,还有交通部,虽然不在他的管辖范围内,但他有影响力。这与我们一月份在阿拉斯加购买的一处新房产有关,我们正受到当地官员的阻挠和拖延,他们不理解我们试图从这个矿中提取的锑是联邦政府所需要的。
We have a $245,000,000 contract to fulfill the needs of the military, and we've got local people in Alaska holding things up. So I gave him the information. He took it down. He said, I'll be on it Monday, and I have no doubt he will be. So that's the kind of thing that, you know, we express to them. So when you think about, these conversations that you're having and you think about the future of antimony, you're pretty optimistic, it sounds like, coming off of that.
我们有一份价值2.45亿美元的合同来满足军队的需求,但阿拉斯加的当地人在拖延。所以我把信息给了他。他记了下来,说星期一会处理,我毫不怀疑他会。所以这就是我们向他们表达的那种事情。所以当你想到这些对话,想到锑的未来,你听起来相当乐观,从那次经历中走出来。
Anything other than that that you would say concrete that you are looking to see advancements on as it relates to relationships between your company and The US Federal Government? Well, we we won a $27,000,000 grant last year, and then we won the $245,000,000 contract. We've got, though, over $350,000,000 of additional grant requests in to various departments of the federal government to assist us, not only in antimony, but in tungsten and some other critical minerals we're involved in.
除此之外,您还有什么具体想看到进展的,关于贵公司与美国联邦政府之间的关系?嗯,我们去年赢得了一笔2700万美元的拨款,然后我们赢得了2.45亿美元的合同。不过,我们还有超过3.5亿美元的额外拨款申请提交给了联邦政府的各个部门,以帮助我们,不仅是在锑方面,还有钨和我们参与的其他关键矿产。
And what I'm kinda hearing through the conversations is that, the president really wants to go more to from a grant, which is basically a gift, to the companies to more of an equity component. In other words, we'll give you x amount of dollars, but we also want a piece of your company. He talked Mhmm. At this forum about the success he's had with Intel, the success he's had with MP Materials. And so there was a new fellow that I met there actually from Dallas that, is now, kinda key at the high White House in looking at these investments.
我从对话中听到的是,总统真的想从拨款(基本上是一种赠予)转向更多的股权成分。换句话说,我们会给你一定数额的钱,但我们也想要你公司的一部分。他谈到了——嗯——在这个论坛上,他谈到了他在英特尔和MP材料公司取得的成功。所以有一个我从达拉斯遇到的新人,他现在在白宫高层负责这些投资。
I also heard very loud and clear, they wanna do bigger deals, 500,000,000 minimum or bigger. And so we're looking at packaging some things. We're looking at, okay. We can step it up and look at bigger. So Okay. That's that's one of the things that we're doing. So it raises the question, how much of of your company would you be willing to sell to the US government? Well, that all depends on how much money they're willing to give me.
我还非常清楚地听到,他们想做更大的交易,至少5亿美元或更大。所以我们正在考虑打包一些东西。我们在考虑,好吧,我们可以加大力度,考虑更大的。所以好的,这是我们在做的事情之一。这就引出了一个问题,你愿意把公司多少股份卖给美国政府?嗯,这完全取决于他们愿意给我多少钱。
So, you know, we're a publicly traded company with a billion dollar market cap, so we'll have to look at it like any other investment. However, you know, if the government will give you certain additional incentives, say, price floors or minimum contracts or other things that would hit assist your business, you can look at maybe not only just equity, but some warrants that that are out of the money, other things that gives the the government incentives.
所以,你知道,我们是一家上市公司,市值10亿美元,所以我们必须像看待任何其他投资一样看待它。然而,你知道,如果政府愿意给你某些额外的激励,比如价格下限或最低合同或其他有助于你业务的东西,你可以考虑不仅仅是股权,还有一些价外认股权证,以及其他给政府激励的东西。
So we would look at it like any investment banking transaction, but, you know, peep if you'd asked me this six months ago, said, no. I'd rather have the grant. Obviously, the grant is non dilutive equity. But if you having the government as a shareholder, I would prefer not over 20%, would be fine. Mhmm. And broadening out just a bit, how quickly when we think about The US, domestically in terms of our critical mineral supply chain, how quickly do you think that we could actually push forward with those strategies, those plans, and is government support enough to make these come these projects economically viable?
所以我们会像看待任何投资银行交易一样看待它,但是,你知道,如果你六个月前问我这个,我会说不。我宁愿要拨款。显然,拨款是非稀释性的股权。但如果政府作为股东,我宁愿不超过20%,那会没问题。嗯。再稍微扩展一下,当我们考虑美国国内的关键矿产供应链时,你认为我们实际上能多快推进这些战略和计划,而政府的支持是否足以让这些项目在经济上可行?
Well, what's made them much more valuable today is the price of all these critical minerals and rare earths has gone up dramatically. Why has that happened? China, over the last thirty years, has gone around the world and tied up all these critical minerals. For antimony, they own 85% of worldwide reserves. For tungsten, it's close to 90% of worldwide reserves. We have sat and let our country stay behind the eight ball for thirty years while China has done this.
嗯,让它们今天更有价值的是,所有这些关键矿产和稀土的价格已经大幅上涨。为什么会这样?中国在过去三十年里,走遍全球,锁定了所有这些关键矿产。对于锑,他们拥有全球储量的85%。对于钨,接近全球储量的90%。我们却坐视不管,让我们的国家落后了三十年,而中国一直在做这件事。
So we're playing catch up. No doubt about that. And it's gonna take time. We can't do it overnight. But having the regulations removed so that we can move quicker, you know, we've learned a lot from the past with the guardians to environmental issues. We are very big environmentalists in our company. You know, when we dig up something, we try to bury it again, you know, within weeks, not years down the road. So we've gotten some kudos from a lot of the the regulatory agencies that, hey.
所以我们在追赶。毫无疑问。这需要时间。我们不能一夜之间做到。但是,如果法规被移除,以便我们能更快行动,你知道,我们从过去的环境问题中吸取了很多教训。我们公司非常重视环保。你知道,当我们挖出东西时,我们试图在几周内重新埋好,而不是几年后。所以我们得到了很多监管机构的称赞,他们说,嘿。
You guys are really doing a great job. And so I'm a big conservationist. I love to hunt. I love to fish. I don't wanna leave what we do in in in ill repair. So we've we've made sure that we are the type of company that people will wish that we had come rather than somebody else. So Yeah. You know, that's very important.
你们真的做得很好。所以我是一个坚定的环保主义者。我喜欢打猎。我喜欢钓鱼。我不想把我们做的事情留下不好的影响。所以我们确保我们是那种人们希望我们来的公司,而不是别人。所以,是的。你知道,那非常重要。
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