英特尔拟发行150亿美元股票融资
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英特尔大规模股权融资是重大公司财务事件,投资者可关注其资本结构变化及对股价的潜在影响。
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Let's get a little techy for you. Uh the NASDAQ's up 14 points today. Okay, not much going on out there, but there's a lot of news flow out there in the tech space as there typically is. And for that, we'd like to check in with our buddy Matthew Bloxom, Bloomberg Intelligence, senior technology analyst. He covers a bunch of stuff and he does it from London. Hey Matt, thanks for joining us here. I mean, Intel coming to the market.
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Here's another big tech company coming with a big equity raise. Uh it seems like these guys have an insatable need for for capital.
又一家大型科技公司要进行大规模股权融资。嗯,看来这些公司对资本有着无法满足的需求。
Yeah, they do. That's right. So, what $15 billion, roughly 3% of the market cap. So, so not that big but you know I think still always a little bit surprising when these companies come to market for equity. Uh you know they raised I think $6.5 billion in debt early this year. Fairly expensive coupons kind of 4.65% through to 6.2%. So I guess you know they're looking to balance um their their capital needs across different parts of the um the balance sheet structure.
是的,确实如此。所以,大约150亿美元,约占市值的3%。所以,不算太大,但你知道,当这些公司进行股权融资时,我仍然觉得有点意外。嗯,你知道,他们今年早些时候发行了大约65亿美元的债券。票面利率相当高,从4.65%到6.2%不等。所以,我想你知道,他们是在寻求在资产负债表结构的不同部分之间平衡资本需求。
Um yeah the valuation's pretty full right now. I mean if you look forward a couple of years it's on 50 times earnings. So I guess you know the management team taking their view that you know if there was ever a time to raise some equity um this is a relatively quote unquote cheap cheap time to do it. You know that they uh along with everybody else have quite substantial investment needs compared to some of the other big tech names.
嗯,是的,目前估值相当高。我的意思是,如果展望未来几年,市盈率是50倍。所以,我想你知道,管理团队认为,如果有一个时机进行股权融资,那么现在是一个相对“便宜”的时机。你知道,他们和其他公司一样,与其他一些大型科技公司相比,有相当大的投资需求。
Their capex is pretty low. You know probably about $20 billion this year maybe rising to $26 billion next year. But you know, this gives them uh a good cash cushion uh to pursue the current projects and who knows perhaps even uh consider some some acceleration of what they're doing.
他们的资本支出相当低。你知道,今年可能大约200亿美元,明年可能增加到260亿美元。但是,你知道,这给了他们一个良好的现金缓冲,以推进当前的项目,谁知道呢,也许甚至考虑加速他们正在做的事情。
What about uh Meta this morning? They've just introduced a new AI model called Muse Glimmer. Uh I guess it's an open source AI model meant to compete with the Chinese uh model DeepS. Uh it's up this morning. How do you feel about it? Yeah, you know, I think we're at a fairly early stage of how the whole AI foundational model um play is going to evolve. Uh you know, this is quite a different position to the likes of open AI and anthropic who work with closed models.
关于今早的Meta,他们刚刚推出了一款名为Muse Glimmer的新AI模型。我想这是一个开源AI模型,旨在与中国模型DeepS竞争。今早它发布了。你对此有何看法?是的,你知道,我认为我们正处于整个AI基础模型玩法如何演变的相当早期阶段。你知道,这与OpenAI和Anthropic等使用封闭模型的公司立场非常不同。
Gemini, Google with Gemini is a little bit kind of mixed. They have some open-source models and some closed models. the meta very much kind of uh uh penetics fortunes to the flag of the open uh model and you know really trying to kind of make a big difference and Mark Zuckerberg today in a in an essay being somewhat critical of some of its competitors you saying that really uh we should be democratizing AI and putting it in the hands of of the user.
Gemini,谷歌的Gemini有点混合。他们有一些开源模型和一些封闭模型。Meta非常坚定地支持开源模型,并且你知道,真的试图做出重大改变。马克·扎克伯格今天在一篇文章中对一些竞争对手持批评态度,他说我们真的应该将AI民主化,把它交到用户手中。
So I think yeah open to see how widely adopted this will be um what it means for the kind of longerterm economics both met and the industry but so it's certainly an interesting move and I think as much as anything the language and the rhetoric that Zuckerberg is using uh around this push. Matt, you know, it's as being in these markets for 40 years, it would it's always surprised me in a negative sense how Europe at large basically missed the whole technology revolution.
所以我认为,是的,看看这将有多广泛的采用,以及它对Meta和整个行业的长期经济意味着什么,会很有趣。但这肯定是一个有趣的举动,我认为最重要的是扎克伯格在推动这一过程中使用的语言和措辞。马特,你知道,在这个市场待了40年,总是让我感到惊讶的是,从负面意义上说,欧洲基本上错过了整个技术革命。
All the tech is in in in the US and Asia and things like that. Is the same thing happening with AI? Will Europe just kind of outsource it to other people and not participate?
所有技术都在美国和亚洲等地。AI也会发生同样的事情吗?欧洲会只是将其外包给其他人而不参与吗?
It does unfortunately um seem that way. you know, we have Mistral um as I guess the most well um known, you know, European AI model, but you know, it sits in the shadows of uh uh the US and and the Chinese alternatives. So, yeah, you know, it it's um a perennial problem for the region. And obviously there's a kind of big really big um introspective process going on right now about Europe 2035 and what funding is needed to kind of really close the gap and genuinely make Europe competitive enough.
不幸的是,看起来确实如此。你知道,我们有Mistral,我想这是最知名的欧洲AI模型,但你知道,它处于美国和中国的替代品的阴影之下。所以,是的,你知道,这对该地区来说是一个长期存在的问题。显然,目前正在进行一个非常大的、真正的反思过程,关于欧洲2035年以及需要什么样的资金来真正缩小差距,使欧洲真正具有足够的竞争力。
You the numbers are eye watering and even if the money was there you know I think there's so many kind of structural and cultural issues about the way Europe works that are very serious um obstacles they have to to get around and all the time they're trying to figure those issues out. you know, the US and China are running full steam ahead. So, it does I would think that you the base case scenario would be that Europe continues to be a taker of technology um from other parts of the world.
这些数字令人瞠目结舌,即使资金到位,我认为欧洲的运作方式存在许多结构性和文化性问题,这些都是他们必须克服的严重障碍,而他们一直在努力解决这些问题。与此同时,美国和中国正在全速前进。因此,我认为基本情景是欧洲将继续成为世界其他地区技术的接受者。
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I'm looking at Microsoft. This is a name Stacy. Tom and I, Tom Keen and I for the longest time we're saying just, you know, as of a week or two ago, why is this stock down 25% year to date? This is Microsoft. I guess was thrown out with a lot of those software stocks that thought AI was going to put them out of business, but this is Microsoft. And we
我在看微软。这是一个名字,Stacy。Tom和我,Tom Keen和我,在很长一段时间里我们一直在说,就在一两周前,为什么这只股票今年迄今下跌了25%?这是微软。我想它和许多软件股一起被抛售,那些股票被认为AI会让它们倒闭,但这是微软。而我们
Microsoft and it's one of the Magnificent Seven.
微软,它是七巨头之一。
Yeah. I mean, you know, so sure enough, they put up a good print uh last week. Good earnings. Stocks erased all those uh losses, now up three or four% on the year, 5% for the year. So, how about that? Um, more news out on Microsoft today. Um, they're going to raise nextG AI chip production next year. That's pretty interesting. That's according to the information. Honor Rana joins us, senior tech analyst for Bloomberg Intelligence.
是的。我的意思是,你知道,果然,他们上周发布了不错的业绩。良好的收益。股票抹去了所有那些损失,现在今年上涨了3%或4%,全年上涨5%。那么,怎么样?嗯,今天关于微软有更多消息。嗯,他们明年将提高nextG AI芯片的产量。这相当有趣。这是根据The Information的报道。Honor Rana加入我们,他是彭博智库的高级科技分析师。
Honor, it it's really amazing how the market has kind of gotten a new appreciation, if you will, for the Microsoft story that I think was really people were questioning and is Microsoft at risk from AI. How do you think about it?
Honor,市场对微软的故事有了新的认识,这真的很令人惊讶,我认为人们之前确实在质疑微软是否面临AI的风险。你怎么看?
Yeah, I mean, you're absolutely right. There was that risk of disruption from some of its product from AI. But there was another risk or there was another narrative that when you look at the three hypers scale cloud providers Google um Amazon and Microsoft Google's chip has just taken off. I mean their TPUs are all the rage in the market and and Amazon's actually come out with their own print that you know they are making tens of billions of dollars with their own chip as well.
是的,我的意思是,你说得完全正确。确实存在其某些产品被AI颠覆的风险。但还有另一个风险,或者说还有另一种说法,当你看看三大超大规模云提供商谷歌、亚马逊和微软时,谷歌的芯片刚刚起飞。我的意思是,他们的TPU在市场上风靡一时,而亚马逊实际上也发布了他们自己的报告,他们用自己的芯片也赚了数百亿美元。
So what happens is when you are looking at this fight of everybody expanding into AI data centers, they do need chips. They are all running to Nvidia. But two of the three providers talked about having their own chips. Now Microsoft was not in that game at that point. They have their own chip, but it's not widely embraced. But today's report when it talks about that they're going to go out and and increase the production of their own chips, which means customers may be ready to use those.
所以,当你看到大家都在争相扩建AI数据中心时,他们确实需要芯片。他们都涌向英伟达。但三家供应商中有两家提到拥有自己的芯片。当时微软并未参与其中。他们有自己的芯片,但并未被广泛采用。而今天的报道称,他们将提高自家芯片的产量,这意味着客户可能已准备好使用这些芯片。
And if that's the case, their cost of spending into that capital expenditure, you know, boom will start to go down in a sense down on a relative basis or per token basis. So, it's a very good news for them in the long run.
如果是这样,他们的资本支出成本,你知道,从相对或每个代币的基础上看,会开始下降。所以,从长远来看,这对他们来说是个非常好的消息。
Well, Microsoft might be having a very good day, but Apple is having a pretty rotten day. What's going on with them? Apparently, it has something to do with hardware not coming out the way that they're hoping.
嗯,微软今天可能过得很好,但苹果今天却相当糟糕。他们怎么了?显然,这与硬件未能达到他们预期的效果有关。
Uh, no. I don't I mean, I think that's a different somebody's downgrade. That's a different story. But when you look at Apple and let's go back to that time period when when Paul talked about when Microsoft was down uh you know 25% or so for the year or you know at that time what was happening was everybody was worried about ROI on AI trade. This is before earning season. You know, you saw Google, you saw everybody was worried about them.
呃,不。我不认为,我是说,那是另一个人下调评级。那是另一回事。但当你看看苹果,让我们回到保罗提到微软那年下跌约25%的时候,你知道,那时大家都在担心AI交易的回报率。那是在财报季之前。你知道,你看到谷歌,你看到大家都在担心他们。
But at the same time, everybody loved Apple because they were not spending that much money. But after t
但与此同时,每个人都喜欢苹果,因为他们没有花那么多钱。但在那之后
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