台积电7月销售额同比增45%,AI硬件需求强劲
TSMC Sales Rise as AI Hardware Demand Stays Strong
台积电月度销售数据是AI硬件需求的重要指标,45%的同比增幅超预期,且带动欧洲芯片股上涨,对关注AI产业链的投资者有参考价值,建议关注后续季度财报及存储芯片价格走势。
So TSMC reporting a 45% rise 45% rise in monthly sales in a sign, of course, of sustained demand for AI hardware amid that market volatility that we saw that was so pronounced in July. The report comes after TSMC raised its spending projection for the year last month when it faced questions on whether its AI related expenditure would deliver meaningful returns. We're joined now by Bloomberg senior strategist Neil Campling.
台积电报告月度销售额增长45%,这当然是在市场波动(7月份尤为明显)中,对AI硬件持续需求的一个信号。该报告发布之前,台积电上个月提高了全年支出预测,当时它面临关于其AI相关支出能否带来有意义回报的质疑。我们现在请到了彭博社高级策略师尼尔·坎普林。
Neil, walk us through the numbers from TSMC. We are seeing a bit of a lift then for European names on the back of this. It seems to be red positive by the market so far. Yeah. So 45% for the monthly sales data. Analysts are at about 47% for the full quarter when it comes out. To put that in perspective for a trillion dollar company, it's pretty high growth rate, and it's on track to be the highest top line number since q three twenty twenty two.
尼尔,请为我们解读一下台积电的数据。我们看到欧洲股票因此有所提振。到目前为止,市场似乎对此反应积极。是的,月度销售数据增长了45%。分析师预计整个季度(数据公布时)约为47%。对于一家万亿美元市值的公司来说,这是一个相当高的增长率,并且有望成为自2022年第三季度以来最高的营收数字。
So the best in four years. So that's a they're very supportive of that helping the chip equipment stocks today in Europe. And for those chip equipment stocks, let's remember that we have the likes of Applied Materials, ASML's closest comp, really, reporting results later this week. And we'll get other AI clues from other earnings in The US this week. The main So does TSMC make chips for? Just because this is the critical thing here, really, isn't TSMC are making are making AI AI chips for NVIDIA.
所以是四年来的最好成绩。这对今天欧洲的芯片设备股非常有利。对于这些芯片设备股,我们记得,应用材料公司、ASML最接近的竞争对手,实际上将在本周晚些时候公布业绩。本周我们还将从美国其他财报中获取其他AI线索。台积电主要代工哪些芯片?因为这才是关键,不是吗?台积电为英伟达制造AI芯片。
They're making the chips for AMD. They also make the chips for, you know, the smartphones for for for Apple. So they're not the memory trade, which is where there's a lot more volatility around. These are the core logic, the the the brains that go into the AI systems and that go into Why are getting less volatility there than we're getting in the memory? Because memory is more cyclical over the course of, longer cycles.
他们为AMD制造芯片。他们还为苹果制造智能手机芯片。所以它们不是内存业务,内存业务波动更大。这些是核心逻辑芯片,是AI系统和……的“大脑”。为什么这里的波动性比内存小?因为内存的周期性更强,周期更长。
And also in memory, they're all raising their own CapEx forecasts. Yeah. And that's actually gonna impact in terms of the supply side dynamics and probably pricing going forward. Meanwhile, AI tokens have come down about 40% from the highs. So the actual use of the AI tokens is getting a lot cheaper, and there's a disconnect between memory pricing and token pricing at the moment. And I think my market participants are betting that the sort of supply going up in memory means a pricing for memory, DRAM in particular, will come down over time.
而且在内存领域,所有厂商都在提高自己的资本支出预测。是的,这实际上会影响供应侧动态,并可能影响未来的定价。与此同时,AI代币价格已从高点下跌约40%。因此,AI代币的实际使用成本变得更便宜,目前内存定价和代币定价之间存在脱节。我认为许多市场参与者押注,内存供应增加意味着内存(尤其是DRAM)的价格将随时间下降。
Yeah. Over time is is the question, isn't it? Over over what kind of time frame. TSMC, the the really cost in terms of sales from other foundries, the likes of Samsung, it's is this do we expect Samsung to perform in a in similarly well in terms of the sales numbers they're seeing, particularly when it comes to the GPUs? We certainly would because Samsung also does not just memory, but logic as well, and it has a leading edge fab out in The US, giving it a good local footprint in The US market.
是的。随着时间的推移,这是个问题,不是吗?在什么样的时间框架内。台积电,相对于其他代工厂(如三星)的销售成本,我们是否期望三星在销售数字上表现同样出色,尤其是在GPU方面?我们当然会,因为三星不仅做内存,也做逻辑芯片,而且在美国有先进的晶圆厂,在美国市场有良好的本地布局。
So TSMC and Samsung are the two leading logic foundries that should be benefiting substantially from this high demand and these high growth kind of estimates that are out in the marketplace. So it's positive for both, and definitely, I think investors prefer that to the memory cyclicality. Okay. So the big question around what is the AI trade back on? Because it was off for a while, and it feels like it's back on again.
所以台积电和三星是两家领先的逻辑代工厂,应该会从这种高需求和市场中的高增长预期中大幅受益。所以对两者都是积极的,而且我认为投资者肯定更喜欢这个而不是内存的周期性。好的。那么关于AI交易回归的大问题是什么?因为它曾经低迷过一段时间,感觉它又回来了。
Is it back on again? It was off for a while while you were sort of selling yourself out at Dun and Cornwall, And I think part of it is we got we got the accelerating growth coming out from Microsoft. So to justify that CapEx, we had good accelerating growth coming from AWS, from Amazon. So there's definitely some comfort from there. But the big question about when we're gonna see these big returns on the invested capital from these high skies does remain to be seen.
它又回来了吗?它曾经低迷过一段时间,当你在Dun和Cornwall出售自己时,我认为部分原因是微软带来了加速增长。所以为了证明资本支出的合理性,我们从亚马逊的AWS那里得到了良好的加速增长。所以肯定有一些安慰。但是关于我们何时能看到这些高额投资资本回报的大问题仍然有待观察。
Not all of them can benefit from the AI build out, but there's certainly some encouraging, signs in the meantime.
并非所有人都能从AI建设中受益,但与此同时,肯定有一些令人鼓舞的迹象。
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