参议院确认特朗普前辩护律师托德·布兰奇为司法部长
Senate Confirms Former Trump Defense Lawyer Todd Blanche as Attorney General
美国司法部长确认是重大政治事件,影响司法政策与市场预期,值得关注。
Back to that breaking news now out of Washington DC. The senate confirming president Donald Trump's pick for attorney general Todd Blanche. We're gonna go now to Laura Davison. She's Bloomberg News Washington deputy bureau chief. Laura, late night for our colleagues on the hill before everybody tries to skip town. This looks like when I went to bed last night, it wasn't going to happen possibly. And then you had, but you had Bill Cassidy who had been, like, the big holdout coming out and changing his mind kind of yesterday, and then it was a holding pattern, and then all of a sudden, this got pushed through this morning.
回到来自华盛顿特区的突发新闻。参议院确认了总统唐纳德·特朗普提名的司法部长人选托德·布兰奇。我们现在连线劳拉·戴维森,她是彭博新闻华盛顿分社副社长。劳拉,在大家试图离开之前,我们在国会的同事昨晚熬夜了。这看起来就像我昨晚睡觉时,这件事可能不会发生。然后你有了比尔·卡西迪,他之前是主要的反对者,昨天出来改变了主意,然后进入观望状态,然后突然,这件事在今天早上被推动了。
Can you walk us through how this came about? Yes. This is how congress, frequently works is there's a whole lot of nothing. And then suddenly, you know, in the wee hours of the morning, they're able to to get the votes and push something across the finish line once senate leaders have exhausted everyone, and they're, you know, agreeing to vote for things. So this is really, you know, sort of a remarkable end to a weeks long saga.
你能给我们讲讲这是怎么发生的吗?是的。这是国会经常的工作方式,有很多的无所事事。然后突然,你知道,在凌晨时分,他们能够获得选票并推动某事越过终点线,一旦参议院领导人耗尽了所有人的精力,你知道,他们同意投票支持某些事情。所以这真的是,你知道,对持续数周的传奇故事的一个非凡结局。
If you had, you know, multiple senators coming out and expressing some concerns about Todd Blanche and also just how Trump is influencing the justice department, particularly this $1,800,000,000, quote, anti weaponization fund that would have gone to support January 6 insurrectionists and other allies of the president, as well as the the the president being able to cut a deal with the IRS to save himself from any tax audits.
如果你有,你知道,多位参议员站出来表达对托德·布兰奇的一些担忧,以及特朗普如何影响司法部,特别是这个18亿美元的所谓的“反武器化基金”,该基金本应支持1月6日叛乱分子和总统的其他盟友,以及总统能够与国税局达成协议以避免任何税务审计。
So, you know, they were able to get some concessions. You know, some Republicans were able to get some concessions from the justice department that really limited the scope of that tax deal as well as essentially tabling, killing off that that anti weaponization fund. You still had two senators who said no way, Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski expressing broader concerns. But the last vote, what everyone was waiting for, Bill Cassidy of Louisiana, he is a lame duck senator.
所以,你知道,他们能够获得一些让步。你知道,一些共和党人能够从司法部获得一些让步,这些让步确实限制了该税务协议的范围,以及基本上搁置、扼杀了那个反武器化基金。你仍然有两位参议员说不,苏珊·柯林斯和丽莎·穆尔科斯基表达了更广泛的担忧。但最后一票,每个人都在等待的,是路易斯安那州的比尔·卡西迪,他是一位跛脚鸭参议员。
Trump essentially opposed him in his primary, and he is will be leaving congress next year. Everyone was watching him. He came out on the senate floor yesterday and said, look. You know, I, have some, problems with how the justice department is being run, but I think that Todd Blanche is going to be better than any other, candidate that Trump is gonna put forward. And so, therefore, I'm gonna go ahead and give him my support and vote yes.
特朗普基本上在他的初选中反对他,他将在明年离开国会。每个人都在看着他。他昨天在参议院发言说,看,你知道,我对司法部的运作方式有一些问题,但我认为托德·布兰奇会比特朗普提出的任何其他候选人都要好。所以,因此,我打算继续支持他并投赞成票。
Let me play a bit of that sound from that speech. Again, this was highly anticipated given that Murkowski defected, Collins defected, what was Bill Cassidy going to do. Let's let's play a listen of what he had to play a little bit of what he had to say here on the senate floor. Mister Blanche is not perfect, and he will tell you this. But the choice is not between perfection and mister Blanche. It is between mister Blanche and another acting attorney general who may not run the department effectively under president Trump and who, indeed, may not be as good as mister Blanche.
让我播放一下那次演讲中的那段声音。再说一次,鉴于穆尔科斯基和柯林斯都倒戈了,比尔·卡西迪会怎么做备受期待。让我们听听他在参议院发言时说了些什么。布兰奇先生并不完美,他自己也会告诉你这一点。但选择不在于完美和布兰奇先生之间,而在于布兰奇先生和另一位代理司法部长之间,后者可能无法在特朗普总统领导下有效管理该部门,而且确实可能不如布兰奇先生好。
Laura, let's pick that apart a little bit there. Not not a bringing endorsement there. The devil you know is really the endorsement I would want going into a new job. Sorry. Go ahead, David. What do you what do you make of of what the senator had to say to the rationale as he presented it there on the senate floor? Well, I think you just have to take a look at some recent history. If you look at, you know, who Trump has talked about having a top that the justice department in the past, his first pick back when he was recently reelected in in 2024, he wanted Matt Gates, the really embattled and and scandal plagued member of congress who had had facing all sorts of allegations of, you know, underage sex charges and and a whole bunch of problems.
劳拉,让我们稍微分析一下。这可不是什么强有力的支持。对于新工作,我想要的认可就是“已知的魔鬼”。抱歉,大卫,你说。你对参议员在参议院提出的理由有什么看法?嗯,我认为你只需要看看最近的历史。如果你看看特朗普过去提到过谁担任司法部负责人,他在2024年再次当选后的第一个选择是马特·盖茨,这位饱受争议、丑闻缠身的国会议员,面临各种指控,比如未成年性行为指控和一大堆问题。
That really got a very quick swift no from senate Republicans. That's when he pivoted to Pam Bondi. Of course, now Blanche will be replacing Bondi. But I think, you you, you know, in in that speech, Cassidy mentioned that he thinks that, Todd Blanche will be a hands on administrator and be you know, sort sort of be able to run a very, very large department with thousands and thousands of lawyers and that he's not worried sort of broadly about mister Blanche's character.
这很快遭到了参议院共和党人的迅速否决。那时他转向了帕姆·邦迪。当然,现在布兰奇将接替邦迪。但我认为,在那次演讲中,卡西迪提到他认为托德·布兰奇将是一位亲力亲为的管理者,能够管理一个拥有数千名律师的庞大部门,而且他总体上并不担心布兰奇先生的品格。
Whereas he, you know, sort of suggested that there would be other candidates that the president might be interested in who he would have more concerns with. You mentioned that, what there were these two big concerns, and one of them was this anti weaponization fund. And Blanche kind of explained what he did. He kind of wrote a memo or a promise that it's gone away, but my understanding is it's not really binding. Right?
而他则暗示,总统可能感兴趣的其他候选人,他会更担心。你提到了那两个大问题,其中之一是反武器化基金。布兰奇解释了他做了什么。他写了一份备忘录或承诺,说它已经消失了,但我的理解是它并不真正具有约束力。对吗?
So it was enough it was enough to get him over the line, but can he change his mind? Yes. This is really kind of the the legal question surrounding this. What some members of congress wanted is is this written into law saying that this could never, come back up again. Instead, what they got is sort of, you know, sort of a memo from the justice department saying this is this is going away. But this is you know, continues to to be, concerning to to some members of congress that this could, you know, come back up in future deals.
所以,这足以让他过关,但他能改变主意吗?能。这确实是围绕这个问题的法律问题。一些国会议员想要的是,这是否被写入法律,规定这永远不能再被提起。相反,他们得到的只是司法部的一份备忘录,说这件事就此了结。但这仍然让一些国会议员感到担忧,因为这可能会在未来的交易中再次出现。
You know, as we've seen, you know, Trump, time and time again, you know, has has said he didn't really want this to go away even though his his allies and aids were telling him that this was, going to be sort of sacrificed, you know, for the broader good of getting his attorney general pick across the line. You know, we've seen this on on a whole broad range of issues where Trump says, you know, he he's moving on, but then suddenly brings it up.
你知道,正如我们所见,特朗普一次又一次地说,他并不真的希望这件事消失,尽管他的盟友和助手告诉他,这将为了他的司法部长人选能够过关这一更广泛利益而做出牺牲。你知道,我们在很多问题上都看到过这种情况,特朗普说他继续前进,但突然又提起这件事。
We've seen this with a reflecting pool. We've seen this with the ballroom of that he continues to fight, on some of these personal priorities for him. I don't think that what we saw last night meets the strict definition of a voterama. We had Stephen Dennis, our colleague, on a few weeks back, and we talked we talked about that with him. But there was a string of legislation that the senate dealt with before departing Washington yesterday.
我们在倒影池上看到过这种情况。我们在舞厅上看到过这种情况,他继续为一些个人优先事项而斗争。我不认为我们昨晚看到的情况符合“表决马拉松”的严格定义。我们的同事斯蒂芬·丹尼斯几周前来过,我们和他讨论过这个问题。但在昨天离开华盛顿之前,参议院处理了一系列立法。
Another had to do with spending, and I wanna ask you about that, Laura, if I could. I mean, customarily, or at least in recent memory, there have been a lot of these kind of last minute spending bills that have been quite acrimonious. They've led to government shutdowns. What was passed, I think, was it '90 to six last night, was not that. It it didn't seem like it went down to the wire in the same way that it has in in the past.
另一项与支出有关,我想问你这个问题,劳拉,如果可以的话。我的意思是,通常,或者至少在最近的记忆中,有很多这种最后一刻的支出法案,它们往往充满争议,导致政府停摆。昨晚通过的法案,我想是90比6,不是那样的。它似乎没有像过去那样拖到最后一刻。
What did the senate accomplish in in that regard? What does it mean for the fall as we look ahead to the midterms in terms of how the government is funded? Yeah. So one thing passed is what's called a continuing resolution or a CR. This is essentially a stop gap government funding bill to keep the government open, past the deadline when, current funding is set to expire at the end of September. This would keep the government open until December 11.
参议院在这方面取得了什么成就?这对秋季中期选举前政府资金运作意味着什么?是的。通过的一项法案是所谓的“持续决议”或CR。这基本上是一项临时政府拨款法案,旨在让政府在当前资金于9月底到期后继续运转。这将使政府维持运转至12月11日。
So essentially kicks the can down the road beyond, the midterm elections, which no one wants to see a a shutdown happen during then. What they haven't resolved yet is they haven't come to agreement with the house. So good points for them doing their advanced reading, but they have not reached the advance the group stage project of this. So when the the when the senate comes back on September 14, I note, they have just about two weeks to work with the house to get a bill passed.
所以基本上是把问题推迟到中期选举之后,没有人希望在中期选举期间出现政府停摆。他们尚未解决的是,他们还没有与众议院达成协议。所以他们提前阅读是好的,但他们还没有进入这个问题的下一阶段。所以当参议院在9月14日回来时,我注意到,他们只有大约两周的时间与众议院合作通过一项法案。
So there's still a chance of a shutdown. Chances ticked down significantly last night when they were able to at least get something on paper that, you know, had broad bipartisan support, but we still could be, you know, talking about a shutdown in late September. And another vote, the senate also passed this sweeping Russia sanctions bill yesterday, that has the senator the late senator Lindsey Graham's name on it. We talked about it a little bit earlier.
所以仍然有可能出现政府停摆。昨晚他们至少能在纸面上达成一些东西,得到了两党的广泛支持,所以可能性显著下降,但我们仍然可能在9月底谈论政府停摆。另外,参议院昨天还通过了这项全面的俄罗斯制裁法案,上面有已故参议员林赛·格雷厄姆的名字。我们之前稍微讨论过这个。
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